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    <title>Beginning to see the light</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[I've always wanted to namecheck that great Velvet Underground song. I wore my teeth in my hands...So I could mess the hair of the night. Anyway, S&eacute;bastien Paquet has posted a suggestion to improve the Topic Exchange - which reminded me of my own efforts to ignite the topics community over a month ago. Here's...]]></summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I've always wanted to namecheck <a
href="http://www.songlyricscollection.com/v/Velvet%20Underground/The%20Velvet%20Underground/Beginning%20To%20See%20The%20Light%20lyrics.htm">
that great Velvet Underground song</a>. I wore my teeth in my hands...So I could mess the
hair of the night. Anyway, <a
href="http://radio.weblogs.com/0110772/2004/06/30.html#a1628">S&eacute;bastien Paquet has
posted a suggestion</a> to improve the Topic Exchange - which reminded me of my own
efforts to ignite the topics community over a month ago. Here's Seb's post:</p>

<p class="quote">I believe I have finally seen the light as to how the <a
href="http://topicexchange.com/">Internet Topic Exchange</a> (ITE) could be made simpler
to use and more viral at once, taking one cue from my colleague Stephen's recent
ridiculously easy <a
href="http://www.criticalmethods.org/collab/2004/5/news.htm#1085724459960">shibboleth
strategy</a> for putting together <a
href="http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/clist/clist.cgi?topic=1087501727&amp;db=Link&amp;key=1087501727&amp;reply=new">
conference</a> <a
href="http://www.downes.ca/cgi-bin/clist/clist.cgi?topic=1087945969&amp;db=Link&amp;key=1087945969&amp;reply=new">
aggregators</a> and another from <a href="http://burri.to/%7Ejoshua/">Joshua
Shachter</a>'s now-defunct <a
href="http://honestpuck.com/Computers/Blogging/reversible_org.html">reversible.org</a></p>

<p class="quote">1. Right now submitting a post to a channel requires people to either
fill in a <a href="http://topicexchange.com/t/test/#newping">form</a> on the channel page
of their choice or send a TrackBack ping to the channel. Both are simple, but still
harder than they should. How about adding a third option: <span
style="font-style: italic;">simply link to the channel in your post.</span> To make it
easier, the top of each channel page could even provide <a
href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;q=%22post+also+appears+on+the+open+channel%22&amp;btnG=Search">
some standard boilerplate chunk</a> of the requisite HTML.</p>

<p class="quote">2. In order for this to work the ITE needs to watch the participating
weblogs. It <a href="http://www.myelin.co.nz/post/2003/11/4/#200311041">already watches
for weblog updates</a>, so just let people register their blog or feed once and let the
ITE pick out the posts that link to it as they appear thereafter.</p>

<p class="quote">Note that this new option automagically generates visibility for the
channels on participating blogs with every post submitted; this is one of the key
elements that were missing for effective word-of-mouth propagation of awareness of the
Exchange. I'm kicking myself for having taken so long to find a simpler way.</p>

<p class="quote">Of course, along with ease of use comes more spam. I've been thinking about this too - more later.</p>

<h2>My Reply</h2>

<p>Here's what I posted in Seb's comments (tided up a bit):</p>

<p>This is pretty much what I was getting at a month or so ago, only I wanted Topic
Exchange and K-Collector to play together more. Ref: <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/001876.php">Proposed Solution for ENT
Topic-Sharing Community</a> and the follow-ups <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/001877.php">here</a> and <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/001883.php">here</a>. And <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/001885.php">this is what I ended up with</a> -
K-Collector picks up my posts via my ENT-enabled RSS feed. And my weblog automatically pings Topic
Exchange every time I post, via my use of MT categories (which match up with Topic Exchange
names).</p>

<p>You propose people include the TE link in their post, which is similar to what I do - only I include the link on a reference tacked onto the end of the post (so it doesn't
actually form part of the post itself). This way works for me, because it means I don't
have to manually enter the link - MT does it automagically for me. The downside of my
method is that I use pre-defined categories, which does limit the topic selection
somewhat. But I balanced this by knowing that my topics/categories match now with *both*
Topic Exchange and K-Collector, which was what I wanted.</p>

<p>Anywho, good luck with your proposal. If it helps more people adopt TE then it's a
good thing.</p>]]>
      
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