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    <published>2004-12-04T05:26:57Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:15:37Z</updated>
    <title>Automation and the Real Costs of CMS&apos;s</title>
    <summary>OK, there&apos;s been a lot of discussion about the merits or otherwise of the
Marqui project - much of it ironically in an email &quot;backchannel&quot; involving the sponsored
bloggers, Marqui management and various Blog Dignitaries. I stayed on the sidelines in
that email exchange, because I&apos;d rather push ahead with my plan to follow through with
this experiment and make my own judgement after the results are in. So, here goes with my
first official post...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><b><i><font color="#FF0000">DISCLOSURE: This post is part of my sponsorship
arrangement with Marqui. I am being paid US$800 per month by Marqui from 1 December 2004
- 28 February 2005, to post once a week about Marqui.</font></i></b></p>

<p>OK, there's been <i>a lot</i> of discussion about the merits or otherwise of the
Marqui project - much of it ironically in an email "backchannel" involving the sponsored
bloggers, Marqui management and various Blog Dignitaries. I stayed on the sidelines in
that email exchange, because I'd rather push ahead with my plan to follow through with
this experiment and make my own judgement after the results are in. So, here goes with my
first official post...</p>

<h2>Target Audience</h2>

<p>The first thing I wanted to understand was who is the target market for <a
href="http://www.marqui.com/">Marqui</a>. Their latest <a
href="http://www.marqui.com/Newsroom/event12020481796972.aspx">press release</a>
states:</p>

<div class="quotation">
<p>"Marqui's Software-as-a-Service (SaaS) will be positioned into the blogosphere not as
a tool for bloggers or blogging, but as a new approach to providing easy-to-use tools to
marketers who want to take control of their own messages and brands in all communication
vehicles."</p>
</div>

<p>Right, so they're targeting Marketing folks. Now to look more closely at the
product.</p>

<h2>Automation - the Holy Grail of CMS's</h2>

<p>The demo Flash movie shows how Marqui handles publishing a press release. It's a cute
little cartoon with a faux 1950's American tv voiceover, which shows how ordinary
business users go about publishing a press release.</p>

<p>According to the movie, business users do not have to do anything more complicated
than send some emails and click some buttons - and whizzo! the press release is published
to their company website, sent to news organizations, emailed out to all their clients,
posted on the Intranet, etc. All this is done "automatically" by Marqui.</p>

<p>If I sound a bit skeptical, it's because I've seen and heard this pitch many
<i>many</i> times before in my day job as Web Producer. We use one of the big-name
enterprise CMS systems at my work and this type of 'automation' was promised in that
product too. And it didn't deliver - even after a heap of configuration work and
development hours were put into it. So what I'm now wondering about Marqui is - who does
all the backend work required to make the process "automatic" for the business users?
Someone has to and my bet is it's Marqui's developers, because that's the usual business
case for a service-oriented company.</p>

<h2>What are the Real Costs?</h2>

<p>Now Marqui has a subscription business model, which I think is what most <a
href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;q=define%3A+ASP&amp;btnG=Search">ASPs</a>
have (Application Service Providers, a common form of software outsourcing). But the key
cost for potential customers to consider, I believe, will be the set-up and configuration
costs. Because frankly you don't usually get the level of automation the demo shows
without some heavy lifting in the background by developers. <a
href="http://www.marqui.com/Solutions/Whats_So_Great_about_Marqui.aspx">Here's what
Marqui say</a>:</p>

<div class="quotation">
<p>"A typical setup takes less than a month, costs less than you think (typically
$5,000), and the setup is a one time cost."</p>
</div>

<p>Sounds promising, but again it's the kind of thing most CMS vendors say. In my
experience as a Web Producer, nothing is ever "typical".</p>

<p>Some more clues to the real costs are on <a
href="http://www.marqui.com/Services/Implementation.aspx">this page</a>, which lists a
5-step process for implementing Marqui. The phrase "with ease" is thrown about with gay
abandon, but again this is something I've encountered many a time with traditional CMS
vendors - they always promise it'll be easy, but reality is never that simple. Take this
paragraph as an example:</p>

<div class="quotation">
<p>"Marqui's templates can be customized quickly and easily to match your existing or
newly defined business processes. Our Showcase Network Partners have been trained to
customize Marqui to manage communications according to your workflow and brand management
needs. Even the changes you've never anticipated can be integrated with ease."</p>
</div>

<p>Well that's all find and dandy in marketing-speak, but I have to say I'm skeptical of
that claim purely based on my experience with other CMS products and how much real work
was involved in setting those up.</p>

<h2>Summary</h2>

<p>I will stop here and draw a big breath. Some readers (if they've even bothered to read
this far into a sponsored post) will be wondering if I'm already taking the "can it"
approach to this sponsorship arrangement. I'm not, because all I'm doing is pointing out
that Marqui are promising the <i>exact same things</i> that every other CMS vendor has
promised before - and have largely failed to deliver. Which is: automated workflow,
ease-of-use for business users, easy and low-cost implementation, press releases
magically published in a number of places at once with the click of a few buttons.
There's nothing new under the sun in all of that - <i>every</i> CMS vendor promises those
things.</p>

<p>So what I'll be looking for in my future posts about Marqui is some evidence that
Marqui can actually <b>deliver</b> on their marketing-speak promises. As a
self-proclaimed Web Analyst, it's my duty to dig down into the technical details and see
how Marqui compares to all the other CMS products I'm familiar with - and have largely
been disappointed by. Is Marqui any different? Time will tell...</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Joshua Porter on 2004-12-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Joshua Porter</name>
        <uri>http://www.bokardo.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So now your readership has at least heard of Marqui...</p>

<p>I'm optimistic about what you're doing, Richard, because it feels genuine on your part. Is Marqui genuine? They better be, because this could really blow up in their face.</p>

<p>However, I applaud them for attempting this, even though I'm not in their target audience. I, for one, really appreciate when a company seems to want to actually have a discussion with people and not tell them how it is. </p>

<p>Those companies that put their ass on the line and simply listen, acknowledge, and correct mistakes rather than ignoring them will eventually win out. The era of big business is over. What can you do for my context?</p>]]>
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    <published>2004-12-04T09:49:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Justin Martenstein on 2004-12-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Justin Martenstein</name>
        <uri>http://www.livejournal.com/users/jmartenstein</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is there any chance that you'll get some hands-on time with the product? </p>

<p>Despite the fact that I'm completely outside of the market (I'm just a KM / process geek), I still thought that the subject matter was pretty compelling. And it's interesting also to hear about your experience with enterprise CMS.</p>

<p>It sounds like you are bringing a unique perspective to the issue, and Marqui has their work cut out for them...</p>

<p>Keep up the good work.</p>]]>
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    <published>2004-12-04T12:26:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2004-12-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Joshua and Justin for your comments. I do plan to test out the product, because that's the only way a tech-based person like me can really grok it.</p>

<p>cheers, Richard</p>]]>
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    <published>2004-12-04T17:24:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BobR on 2004-12-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>BobR</name>
        <uri>http://MobileRead.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I work in IT, and have worked in Marketing in the past. But probably wouldn't have heard about Marqui if not for your agreement with them. If that's any indication, then their money is well-spent. </p>

<p>I think you are a good choice by them because your readers are interested in what you have to say. The moment boggers just start repeating their own marketing brochures and stop giving a fairly balanced view is the moment that most people will tune out. Keep up the great work!</p>

<p>Oh yeah... I wanted to also mention that your transparency about the agreement brings a lot of credibility with it. Thks.</p>]]>
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    <published>2004-12-04T18:10:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2004-12-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bob, I appreciate that. My intention is to take an analytical approach to this and I won't just be regurgitating "success stories" or other marketing bumph.</p>]]>
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    <published>2004-12-04T22:31:52Z</published>
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