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  <title>Comments for Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 2-8 May 2005</title>
  
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    <title>Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 2-8 May 2005</title>
    <summary>This week: business folk getting interested in Web 2.0, Adam Curry podcasting
from 2.0 perspective, cool Web 2.0 &apos;mini-apps&apos;, wrap-up of the adverts in RSS debate,
Bosworth&apos;s Web of Data...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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<p><b>This week:</b> business folk getting interested in Web 2.0, Adam Curry podcasting
from 2.0 perspective, cool Web 2.0 'mini-apps', wrap-up of the adverts in RSS debate,
Bosworth's Web of Data.</p>

<h2>From MBA to Master of Web 2.0?</h2>

<p>I get accused of being too geeky sometimes on Read/Write Web (no argument there!). So
I'm on the hunt for more business-related Web 2.0 stories. I do believe that Web 2.0 is
starting to permeate into mainstream business culture - perhaps from the bottom up, i.e.
from business schools. For example <a
href="http://poweryogi.blogspot.com/2005/04/so-heres-idea.html">this MBA student</a> is
looking "to mesh the classroom teaching of proven theories with the rapidly evolving wild
west of what's being referred to as Web 2.0." He or she (no real name provided, so I
couldn't tell) goes on to say:</p>

<div class="quotation"><p>"I would like to explore areas that interest me, and are not really stuff that schools
care to touch, such as the Long Tail, Corporate blogging vis-a-vis developing
relationships with customers, printing-on-demand technologies, Wikis, etcetera while also
trying to build a business from scratch."</p></div>

<p>That's encouraging to hear and I wish that MBA student the best of luck.</p>

<p>Of course the other way business folk can be introduced to Web 2.0 is to use the
tools. For example <a
href="http://bryght.com/blog/boris-mann/weblog-and-wikis-useful-resources-for-team-flow">Boris
Mann recently talked</a> about weblogs and wikis to a local MBA class.</p>

<h2>Curry Podcasting: Implications for Web as Platform&nbsp;</h2>

<p><a href="http://www.ionrss.com/pages/2005/05/podcasting_turn.php">News this week</a>
that Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. is launching a podcasting show, to be hosted by ex-MTV
star <a href="http://live.curry.com/">Adam Curry</a>. It'll be a four-hour weekday show,
featuring a selection of amateur podcasts handpicked by Curry.</p>

<p>Although it could be argued this is more about broadcasting than podcasting, given
Curry's background with MTV, I think this has huge implications for Web 2.0. It's a
chance for enthusiastic podcasters to get their material heard by a much wider audience. Indeed it's not
far-fetched to suggest that a small percentage of talented podcasters will bootstrap
their way to <i>their own</i> professional radio/podcasting shows - perhaps even becoming
stars.</p>

<p>I'm sure Curry will unearth some real podcasting gems, over time. Although I
suggested he may be the Casey Kasem of Podcasting in <a
href="http://www.ionrss.com/pages/2005/05/podcasting_turn.php">my ionrss.com piece</a>,
it's probably fairer to say he could be the <a
href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/3955547.stm">John Peel</a> of
Podcasting. Peel was a music-lover who discovered and recorded some amazing new bands,
who probably wouldn't have made it but for Peel. There's an opportunity for Curry to do
the same for Podcasters all over the Web.</p>

<h2>Cool Web 2.0 Mini Apps and Services</h2>

<p>I'm doing my best to avoid writing about The Big 3 Internet companies this week, so to
extend that theme I thought I'd list out some neat new Web 2.0 things developed by
individuals or small companies. Here are some I discovered this week:</p>

<p>- <a href="http://www.rssmix.com/">RSS Mix</a>: a feed remixer<br />
- <a href="http://foundcity.net/">Foundcity</a>: "allows everyone in a city to map the
interesting things they discover throughout the day to a dynamic online map"<br />
- <a href="http://elsewhere.adactio.com/">Adactio</a>: uses APIs to collect scattered
pieces of Web content into one place (<a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002711.php">see my review here</a>)<br />
- <a href="http://www.backpackit.com/">Backpack</a>: amongst other things, transforms
emails into functional web pages. Got a lot of blog buzz this week, <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002710.php">including from me</a>.<br />
- <a href="http://networkimprov.net/airwrx/">airWRX</a>: a content-creation workspace
that runs from a USB flash drive<br />
- <a
href="http://www.niallkennedy.com/blog/archives/2005/04/announcing_hrev.html">hReview</a>:
an open standard for reviews (see <a href="http://www.myelin.co.nz/post/2005/5/5/#200505051">Phil Pearson's
implementation</a> at the <a href="http://coffee.gen.nz/">NZ Coffee Review</a> site).</p>

<p>Feel free to email me (see my site's menu) if you have a new Web 2.0 app or service
you want me to take a look at.&nbsp;</p>

<h2>Ads in RSS Round-Up</h2>

<p>I've been covering this issue on <a href="http://www.ionrss.com/">ION
RSS</a>. In terms of the Web as platform, I concluded that RSS is essentially equal to HTML as a publishing format. That is, RSS is a <a
href="http://www.ionrss.com/pages/2005/05/ads_in_rss_redu.php">first-class
citizen</a> of Web publishing. People can and will put anything they want into an RSS feed, just as
they do with webpages.</p>

<p>But, as always, each 'end-user' will decide for him or herself whether ads in feeds
are acceptable. It's easy to unsubscribe from feeds and that's part of the beauty of Web 2.0 - users have control over their Web experience.</p>

<h2>Techie Time: Bosworth's Web of Data</h2>

<p>Adam Bosworth recently <a
href="http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/04/22/bosworth.html">gave a speech to the
MySQL Users Conference 2005</a>. Bosworth is a former Microsoft web wizard, but nowadays
he casts his RESTian spells as a Google employee. He's known for his evangelism of
simplicity and 'sloppiness' in designing for the Web. For example, here's his view of RSS:</p>

<div class="quotation"><p>"Bosworth predicts that RSS 2.0 and Atom will be the lingua franca that will be used
to consume all data from everywhere. These are simple formats that are sloppily
extensible. Anyone who wants to can use these formats to consume content or to author
content."</p></div>

<p>For a design and business-oriented take on the 'Web of Data' theme, check out <a
href="http://www.digital-web.com/articles/web_2_for_designers/">Web 2.0 for Designers</a>, the Digital Web Magazine article that <a href="http://bokardo.com/">Joshua
Porter</a> and I wrote. If you're geekily inclined, I also recommend you check out <a
href="http://www.dehora.net/journal/2005/04/rsq_really_simple_querying.html">Bill de
h&Oacute;ra</a>'s and <a
href="http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/PermaLink.aspx?guid=3da7facd-a42e-4cb1-89b6-6e21667e3023">
Dare Obasanjo</a>'s posts in response to Bosworth's speech. Also <a
href="http://www.megginson.com/blogs/quoderat/archives/2005/03/31/rest-and-rss/">David
Megginson</a> has a very techie post on this theme.</p>

<h2>Summary</h2>

<p>That's a wrap for another week! Hey, I should make that my catch phrase... I hope you're
still enjoying these posts and as always, I value any feedback. Feel free
to email or leave a comment.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Bud Gibson on 2005-05-10</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>

<p>Just thought I would mention another way MBAs can be introduced to Web 2.0.  It's through The High Octane Blogging Bootcamp that we are going to be doing for evening MBAs at University of Michigan starting this Saturday.  You might have missed it because you thought it was just a bunch of blog-marketing hype, but the reality  is that the course is very much about using web services.  We will actually be using The Port Networks as our platform.</p>

<p>My experience with MBA students is that about 1-5% are really in it to get deeply into the underlying technology or theory.  The rest you have to sell on business benefits.  Further, for all students, seeing is believing.  If you would like to follow on on our progress.  Feel free to look here:</p>

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    <published>2005-05-10T09:17:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2005-05-10</title>
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        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Bud, that's great to know! Thanks and I'll follow up with an email to you...</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-05-10T16:44:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from poweryogi on 2005-05-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>poweryogi</name>
        <uri>http://poweryogi.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hi richard, sure am glad i found your blog thru a clickthru to my site. great resource, on my del.icio.us required reading now. i am (a he) and going to b-school this fall. playing around with a couple of ideas in my head and hope to start doing something soon. i believe (sometimes you just have to) that web2.0 is filled with exciting opportunities, and am keen to see how it evolves.</p>]]>
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