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  <title>Comments for Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 27 June - 3 July 2005</title>
  
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    <title>Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 27 June - 3 July 2005</title>
    <summary>sponsored by: This week: Grokking Yahoo! My Web 2.0, What is Where 2.0, Entrepreneurs start your engines, RSS VC fund fever, Techie Post of the Week - Attention. Thoughts on Yahoo! My Web 2.0 Yahoo&apos;s unveiling of a &quot;social search engine&quot; called My Web 2.0 got almost as much tech blogger coverage as Microsoft&apos;s RSS...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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<p><b>This week:</b> Grokking Yahoo! My Web 2.0, What is Where 2.0, Entrepreneurs start
your engines, RSS VC fund fever, Techie Post of the Week - Attention.</p>

<h2>Thoughts on Yahoo! My Web 2.0</h2>

<p>Yahoo's unveiling of a "social search engine" called <a
href="http://myweb2.search.yahoo.com">My Web 2.0</a> got almost as much tech blogger
coverage as <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002766.php">Microsoft's RSS
announcements</a> last week. Yahoo! My Web 2.0 is basically a search engine /
bookmark service which enables you to find relevant content via your social network. It's
been variously described as <a
href="http://ysearchblog.com/myweb/archives/000142.html">"a little cluster of "domain
experts" you trust"</a> to <a
href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050630-101327">"an eBay for Knowledge"</a>.
I rounded up some other reactions <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002768.php">in this post</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p>Over the past week I've talked about it <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002770.php">in</a> <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002771.php">podcasts</a> and then finally had
a chance to play. Here are some additional things I've discovered:</p>

<p>- you can import your existing bookmarks from your blog or bookmark services such as
<a href="http://del.icio.us">del.icio.us</a> (the leading social bookmarking service).
All it takes to do this is to enter the URL of your del.icio.us feed (or an XML file that holds the data) and Yahoo
automatically imports it - including all your tags! So it seems that Yahoo! My Web 2.0 is
<b>potentially a del.icio.us-killer</b>, which must be a concern for the folks who <a
href="http://blog.del.icio.us/blog/">created</a> del.icio.us or <a
href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2005/04/delicious.html">invested</a> in it. <a
href="http://www.waxy.org/archive/2005/06/28/yahoo_la.shtml">Some</a> <a
href="http://a.wholelottanothing.org/2005/06/my_web_20.html">people</a> think the two
services are distinct enough to co-exist... I'm not so sure. Time will tell whether it's
worth my while entering bookmarks into two places.</p>

<p>- Yahoo! My Web 2.0 is also a decent <i>practical</i> demonstration of what <a
href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/Gillmor/?p=115">Attention</a> means in this evolving Web 2.0
world. It provides a trail of what I've been focusing my attention on (if I choose to
make that public) - and likewise I can access the attention trails of people in my social
network.</p>

<p>I'll write more about Yahoo's social search engine in a later post.</p>

<h2>What in the world is Where 2.0?</h2>

<p>You'd be forgiven for thinking the <a
href="http://www.oreillynet.com/where2005/">Where 2.0 conference</a> was just about maps
and stuff, because <a href="http://earth.google.com/">Google</a>, <a
href="http://developer.yahoo.net/maps/">Yahoo</a> and <a
href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=e8f737c6-301e-4a80-ab98-405e57dec9d3&amp;displaylang=en">
Microsoft</a> mapping initiatives have been <em>everywhere</em> lately (pun intended). Indeed&nbsp; if
you cast your roving eye over the <a href="http://www.oreillynet.com/where2005/">Where
2.0 homepage</a>, you'll notice the content doesn't stray far from the topic of mapping. Or
"geospatial Web technologies" as <a
href="http://wade.trblogs.com/archives/2005/06/whats_what_at_w.html">those in the
know</a> call it.</p>

<p>If we zoom out and take a high-level view of the terrain,
we can see that "where" technologies will be key enablers for Web applications over the next 5-10
years.</p>

<p>Tim O'Reilly in his Where 2.0 keynote put it <a
href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1565">into the context of Web 2.0</a>:&nbsp;</p>

<p><i>"Where 2.0 is the subsystem to the Web 2.0 operating system&hellip;Web 2.0 will be
built from a network of cooperating data services."</i></p>

<p><a href="http://ross.typepad.com/blog/2005/06/where_the_wild_.html">Ross Mayfield
followed up</a> by writing that, on the Web, 1995-2000 was about the "what" and 2000-2005
about the "who". A little over-simplistic, but it leads to this concise insight:</p>

<p><i>"From 2005 to 2010 we will be trying to comprehend the Where. Every new mobile
device will transmit coordinates, every location device will be sensor aware."</i></p>

<h2>Entrepreneurs eye opportunities</h2>

<p><a href="http://bnoopy.typepad.com/bnoopy/2005/06/its_a_great_tim.html">It's a great
time to be an entrepreneur</a>, according to Joe Kraus of <a
href="http://www.jotspot.com/">JotSpot</a> and Excite.com fame. His post aptly summarizes
the excitement of the Web in its current era - post-bubble cautiousness mixed with
enthusiasm for Web 2.0 opportunities. Joe's central thesis is that it's never been
cheaper to be an entrepreneur, which means an easier path to profitability and higher VC
valuations. I particularly liked his third point:</p>

<p><i>"Startups today have unprecedented access to global labor markets. [...]&nbsp; we
have access to a world-wide talent pool of experts on a temporary or permanent
basis."</i></p>

<p>Yes, including <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002727.php">talented
Analyst/Researchers and Spec Writers</a> from New Zealand ;-)</p>

<h2>Investors eye RSS Funds</h2>

<p>Of course when money starts to get thrown around, everybody gets giddy. News of a
<i>potential</i> <a
href="http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2005/06/were_off_to_the.php">$100
million RSS fund</a> had all the pundits rubbing their sweaty palms together in glee. I
thought <a href="http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/001514.html">Paul Kedrosky's post</a>
was a good reality check. As he rightly pointed out:</p>

<p><i>"While there are oodles of Web 2.0 opportunities, they are predicated on solving
real problem, not on transport protocols."</i></p>

<p>But having said that, it's clear that with Microsoft now betting on RSS as a kind of
Longhorn saviour - there will be plenty of RSS opportunities for businesses and investors
alike. For example, I've got a keen eye on <a
href="http://www.globelogger.com/item.php?id=418">Charlie Wood's new venture</a>. So it's
fine to be a little cautious, but it's also OK to get a little giddy :-)</p>

<h2>Techie Post of the Week</h2>

<p>Nick Bradbury wrote a call-to-action post, triggered by Microsoft's RSS adoption, entitled <a
href="http://nick.typepad.com/blog/2005/06/microsoft_rss_a.html">Microsoft, RSS and
Attention</a>:</p>

<p><i>"This isn't about Microsoft or any one company. I fully expect Gmail to add RSS
aggregation, enabling Google to better understand what you're paying attention to so they
can provide a more useful personalized search. Same goes for Yahoo and everyone else
getting into the RSS business. See, I believe we've won the RSS battle and the next
battle is for attention, and we should let everyone who hopes to gain from our attention
data know that we want it back."</i></p>

<p>I second that motion - it's vital that all Web 2.0 companies, but particularly the
bigco's, let us <b>own our data</b>. Which in practical terms means making it easy for us
to export our data from an app if we want to. Going back to the social bookmarking
example, <a href="http://rentzsch.com/notes/backingUpDelicious">del.icio.us lets people
export their data</a>. Earlier today I asked the question of Yahoo on the <a
href="http://messages.next.yahoo.com/next/threadview?bn=YahooMyWeb2&amp;tid=147&amp;mid=147&amp;tof=1&amp;m=tm&amp;rt=2">
My Web 2.0 messageboard</a> - currently waiting for an answer. I'm not joking when I say it could determine which of those services I end up using.</p>
<p>That's a wrap for another week!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Mike on 2005-07-09</title>
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        <name>Mike</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am not so sure if Yahoo! MyWeb 2.0 is going to be a del.icio.us killer.  At least, I have to say so because I am also an entrepreneur and we just launched www.blinklist.com a personal and social bookmarking engine.  :-)</p>

<p>Yes, importing bookmarks definitely lowers the switching costs between different services but at the end of the day, I think consumers get excited about exciting applications.  </p>

<p>Yahoo! has sure proven that good enough might just be enough so will need to work harder to make sure that we keep out innovating them.  The social bookmarking space is far too nascent to declare any winners (I hope).  :-)</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-07-09T21:22:31Z</published>
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