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    <title>Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 11-17 July 2005</title>
    <summary>This week: The future of RSS, Amazon turns 10, Yahoo HotJobs, big bucks for blogging, techie post of the week - RSS systems.</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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<p><b>This week:</b> The future of RSS, Amazon turns 10, Yahoo HotJobs, big bucks for blogging, techie post of the week - RSS systems.</p>

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<h2>RSS Growing Up So Fast</h2>

<p>A number of posts came out this week with thoughts on how RSS is evolving and the need
for new kinds of feed management tools. <a
href="http://avc.blogs.com/a_vc/2005/07/feed_thinking.html">VC Fred Wilson thinks</a>
centralised RSS Readers (like <a href="http://www.bloglines.com">Bloglines</a>) are on
the way out. What's needed, according to Fred, is new ways to manage our feeds and make
them available to other apps to use. An example he gives is "applications and services
that can use the [RSS] infrastructure that Microsoft is building into the operating
system layer to add value."&nbsp;</p>

<p>Don't miss the comments to Fred's post, there are some excellent points. e.g. <a
href="http://globelogger.com/moonwatcher/">Charlie Wood</a> says that <a
href="http://www.feedburner.com">Feedburner</a> is a great example of a "value added
service" (they would be my prime example too). <a
href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/">Heather Green</a> then
comments "What I am interested in watching develop are the services that are created on
top of RSS, like maybe a service that parses for resumes or job listings."</p>

<p>In a similar vein, Tommy Lee look-a-like <a
href="http://www.nivi.com/blog/about/">Nivi</a> wrote an interesting post entitled <a
href="http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/rss-is-the-tcpip-packet-of-web-20/">RSS is the
TCP/IP Packet of Web 2.0</a>. In it he asked: "will RSS become the fundamental building
block of Web 2.0 and the Internet Operating System?". See also <a
href="http://www.nivi.com/blog/article/rss-is-the-tcpip-of-web-20-ii-yubnub/">his
follow-up post</a>, featuring an analysis of <a
href="http://jonaquino.blogspot.com/">Jonathan Aquino</a>'s "command line for the Web"
app <a href="http://yubnub.org/">YubNub</a>.</p>

<p>Other thought-provoking posts on these themes include <a
href="http://www.genuinevc.com/archives/2005/07/musing_on_three.htm">David Beisel's
musings</a>, Heather Green's <a
href="http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/blogspotting/archives/2005/07/the_evolution_o.html">
The Evolution of RSS, According to Yahoo</a>, and <a
href="http://mp.blogs.com/mp/2005/07/on_broadband_co.html">Michael Parekh's theory</a>
about "Broadband Content End-Runs".&nbsp;All of this is head-spinning stuff, but well
worth pondering if you're interested in finding out how RSS is beginning to outgrow its
blogging roots.</p>

<p>Oh and incidentally, Atom (an alternative RSS format) was <a
href="http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/07/14/Atom-1.0">all but</a> <a
href="http://www.tbray.org/atom/RSS-and-Atom">officially released</a> this week. I'll
review this further once the techies have finished their <a
href="http://www.docuverse.com/blog/donpark/EntryViewPage.aspx?guid=b47c1b23-2117-4dd2-aab7-d7ebeab4916f">
latest</a> <a
href="http://www.cadenhead.org/workbench/news/2675/id-rather-fight-than-switch">bout</a>
of <a href="http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/comments/997/">handbags at
ten paces</a> :-)</p>

<h2>Amazon Turns 10</h2>

<p><img class="newsimage" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/10anniv_roto.gif" alt="Amazon turns 10" border="0" width="75" height="60" />This week <a href="http://www.amazon.com">Amazon</a> celebrated its <a
href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/07/05/decadeofamazon.ap/">10th birthday</a>.
Amazon is in a way is the quintessential Web 2.0 company, because they've been using the
Web as a platform for all of their 10-year existence. They recognized the power of the
Read/Write Web before most Internet companies, by inviting their users to contribute
reviews and rank products - amongst many other community-enabling features. They were one
of the first bigco's to open up their data with APIs and they made it easy for
third-party sellers to become affiliates (currently more than a quarter of Amazon's sales
are via a third party). Not to mention that Amazon sold products from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Tail">The Long Tail</a> long
before <a href="http://longtail.typepad.com/the_long_tail/">Chris Anderson</a>
popularized the term.</p>

<p>And boy did Amazon celebrate in style! They ran promotions for a Hall of Fame, Wish
List Spree, Special Deliveries and finished up with <i>A Show of Thanks</i> - a live
concert with "Bob Dylan, Norah Jones, Bill Maher, Hall of Fame writers, and exclusive,
behind-the-scenes footage from the Lord of the Rings trilogy."</p>

<p>nb: I have a post brewing about Amazon's future, which hopefully I'll publish this
week.</p>

<h2>Yahoo's Job Search Engine</h2>

<p>This week <a
href="http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/jobseeker/about/press_releases/071205.html">Yahoo
announced</a> a new "jobs search engine" - and it's a <a
href="http://www.ysearchblog.com/archives/000146.html">shot across</a> <a
href="http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/050712-132250">the bow</a> for the online
jobs market. <a href="http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/">Yahoo HotJobs</a> crawls the Web looking
for job vacancies and automatically adds them to its index. Although this will probably
<a
href="www.siliconbeat.com/entries/2005/07/12/yahoos_job_scraping_cannibalizing_the_industry.html">
"cannibalize"</a> its paid listings, it'll also take a big bite out of its two main
rivals in this market - Monster and CareerBuilder.&nbsp;</p>

<p><a href="http://blogs.forrester.com/charleneli/2005/07/hotjobs_crawls_.html">Forrester
analyst Charlene Li predicts</a> that the next big thing in online classifieds is
<i>social classifieds</i>, "where the ability to connect people to each other will be the
hallmark of success." This is actually already a feature of social networking sites such
as <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/jobs?displayHome=">LinkedIn</a> and niche market
blogs like <a href="http://www.paidcontent.org/jobs/">PaidContent.org</a>.</p>

<h2>Professional Blogging Pays Off</h2>

<p>My Australian cousin <a
href="http://www.problogger.net/archives/2005/07/12/earning-milestones/">Darren Rowse
announced recently</a> that he got a Google Adsense cheque for "between $10k and $20k
($USD)" for the month of May. Holy Gamoly! Darren works extremely hard on writing content
for his 20 or so blogs, so full credit to him for the financial rewards.</p><p>The income
revelation led to a <a
href="http://slashdot.org/articles/05/07/17/067201.shtml?tid=95&amp;tid=98">Slashdotting</a>
and the inevitable blog-trashing comments from the /. community. But some commenters had good things to say,
like this one: "He [Darren] is just an info junkie who has happened to find a way to make
a living at his passion."</p> <p>Professional blogging is <a href="http://marc.blogs.it/archives/2005/07/pro_bloggers_se.html">different things to different people</a>. For some, it's <a href="http://www.redmonk.com/sogrady/archives/000826.html">part of their day job</a>. For me, it's my way of trying to <i>get</i> a day job like those guys ;-). Reputation is my currency in the blogosphere and I'm hoping it pays off in the long run.</p>

<h2>Techie Post of the Week: RSS is for creating systems</h2>

<p>I'm still spinning my wheels on the future of RSS. <a href="http://www.scripting.com">Dave Winer</a> wrote <a
href="http://www.podcatch.com/2005/07/14#a983">an interesting riff on this</a>. Here's an
excerpt:</p>

<p><i>"RSS is more than a format, it's an approach to creating systems. [...] The whole
point of RSS, Jim [Moore] argues (imho correctly) is to make connecting systems together
so easy that users can do it themselves, without any help from system managers or
vendors. This is a brilliant observation, in all my years thinking about RSS, I had never
approached it from this direction."</i></p>

<p>I'm not entirely sure what that means yet, but if Dave says it's a brilliant
observation - then obviously the rest of us need to think seriously about it.</p>

<p>That's a wrap for another week!</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Michael Arrington on 2005-07-19</title>
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        <name>Michael Arrington</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great Wrap-up Richard. Congratulations on the sponsor. My bet is they get a ton of purchases.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-07-19T10:55:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Brady Joslin on 2005-07-19</title>
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        <name>Brady Joslin</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've actually had the idea for a couple of months that the HR-XML specification should expand to include some type of extended specifications for job posting meta-data, similar to Structured Blogging or Technorati tagging.  This would allow a new type of job board, that would be an archive of results captured from crawling the web looking for XML tagged postings.  I'm not sure the technical details of the new HotJobs, but it doesn't sound far from the content-specific aggregation that I've been pondering.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-07-19T13:55:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew on 2005-07-19</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"...to make connecting systems together so easy that users can do it themselves, without any help from system managers or vendors."</p>

<p>Well, us users still need some sort of tool to actually subscribe, recombine, then republish RSS feeds without knowing anything about formats, parsers, cron jobs, or any of the other stuff we currently need. (And if someone says UserLand Radio can do this, I'll whack you with copies of Cooper's user-centered design books.)</p>

<p>Yahoo's very nearly got it with MyYahoo, although I can't share my built pages, and the filtering is still fairly coarse (just # of articles and whether I want headlines-only, or also summaries). </p>

<p>Considering this "connecting systems" stretches it a bit, though.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2005-07-19</title>
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        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea Brady - you better get busy developing it ;-)</p>

<p>Andrew, yes I'm still getting my head around what "connecting systems" means. But I think it's about routing data and bits of info from various services through RSS feeds. I need to mull it over some more...</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-07-19T20:24:26Z</published>
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