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  <title>Comments for RSS 3.0?</title>
  
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    <published>2005-08-18T22:07:38Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:15:47Z</updated>
    <title>RSS 3.0?</title>
    <summary>This is news to me. Apparently there&apos;s a version 3 of RSS, which purports to be &quot;a derivative work which is meant to replace the 2.0 version.&quot; That&apos;ll please Dave Winer, I&apos;m sure. A guy called Jonathan Avidan is behind RSS 3.0 and he seems to be the only one contributing to the RSS 3...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>This is news to me. Apparently there's a <a href="http://www.rss3.org/main.html">version 3 of RSS</a>, which purports to be "a derivative work which is meant to replace the 2.0 version." That'll please <a href="http://scripting.com">Dave Winer</a>, I'm sure. A guy called Jonathan Avidan is behind RSS 3.0 and he seems to be the only one contributing to the <a href="http://www.rss3.org/board/">RSS 3 MessageBoards</a> at this time. </p>

<p>Mr Avidan also posted <a href="http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/18/1353238&tid=95">an article at Slashdot</a>, which seriously makes me wonder if there is any decent editing going on there - because frankly this RSS 3 looks to be a load of bunk. As one Slashdot commenter said:</p>

<blockquote>"There is zero community behind this "standard", it's just a spec some guy decided to write of his own accord. In contrast, a real community effort, Atom, has just reached 1.0 and is standardized by the IETF. Nobody should take this "RSS 3.0" seriously."</blockquote>

<p>Indeed <a href="http://xml.coverpages.org/ni2005-07-15-a.html">just yesterday</a> the Atom Syndication Format was approved by the IESG as an IETF Proposed Standard. In English, that means Atom is officially an alternative RSS format to RSS 2.0. </p>

<p>In comparison to <a href="http://www.atomenabled.org/">Atom</a>, which is a real community effort backed by some very smart and distinguished people, RSS 3 looks to be simply a publicity stunt for its author. </p>

<p>But let's be fair to Avidan and hear him out. In Slashdot he defends RSS 3 and answers the obvious question, why not support Atom? <a href="http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=159384&threshold=1&commentsort=0&tid=95&mode=thread&pid=13348326#13351210">Avidan wrote</a>:</p>

<blockquote>"...why not Atom? I don't like Atom and believe that with more documentation, RSS stands a good chance. Competition, if moderately friendly and not destructive, is beneficial to both parties."</blockquote>

<p>He doesn't like Atom? That's his reason for starting yet another RSS format?! He explains more in the <a href="http://www.rss3.org/official_blog/?p=5">"official blog"</a>:</p>

<blockquote>"...it is my belief that RSS 2, given further documentation and reworking, can compete with Atom. Why do I want to compete with Atom? That would be too long to explain here, unfortunately."</blockquote>

<p>Perhaps I'm being too harsh, but I can't see the point of RSS 3 at all. Jonathan, at the very least you need to explain to people why you're not supporting a true community standard, which Atom undoubtedly is. RSS 2.0 already has significant uptake as the main RSS format, so why are you starting <strong>yet another</strong> fork of it?</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2005://1.4503-comment:36200</id>
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    <title>Comment from Randy Charles Morin on 2005-08-19</title>
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        <name>Randy Charles Morin</name>
        <uri>http://www.kbcafe.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yet another fork! And a bad one. The spec is based on several inaccurate assumptions. I'd rate this one below RSS 1.1.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-08-19T16:03:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew Chen on 2005-08-20</title>
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        <name>Andrew Chen</name>
        <uri>http://dragon.mnstate.edu/~chenan/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I can see favoring RDF based syndication formats, and I can see forking for competition's sake, and I can see favoring the "brand" RSS (because obviously it is an acronym, whereas not so with Atom)...</p>

<p>but I can not see one guy obviously believing he can go it alone, and Slashdot giving him attention...</p>

<p>What is the world coming to?</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-08-20T16:22:40Z</published>
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