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    <published>2005-08-07T00:12:58Z</published>
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    <title>Web 2.0 is not about version numbers or betas</title>
    <summary>Summary: Web 2.0 is everyday, non-technical people using the Web to enhance their lives and businesses. The fact that so many people are now creating and building on the Web is what the &apos;2.0&apos; signifies. Tim Bray dislikes the Web 2.0 meme, but mainly because it isn&apos;t technically version 2.0. With all due respect, this...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><i>Summary: Web 2.0 is everyday, non-technical people using the Web to enhance their lives and businesses. The fact that so many people are now creating and building <b>on the Web</b> is what the '2.0' signifies.</i></p>

<p>Tim Bray <a href="http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/08/04/Web-2.0">dislikes the Web 2.0 meme</a>, but mainly because it isn't <i>technically</i> version 2.0. With all due respect, this totally misses the point. Web 2.0 is about building new things on top of the Web - the 'Web as Platform' definition <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002788.php">I wrote about recently</a>. </p>

<p>It's an era of unprecedented construction on the Web and this has generated a lot of excitement and optimism. As <a href="http://dannyayers.com/archives/2005/08/05/20/">Danny Ayers</a> pointed out when he referenced <a href="http://internetalchemy.org/2005/07/talis-web-20-and-all-that">Ian Davis' words</a>: "Web 2.0 is an attitude not a technology".</p>

<p>Web 2.0 is not necessarily version 2 of the Web. The "2.0" part just happens to be a witty software reference signifying that it's a new world of Web opportunity. As <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/08/not_20.html">Tim O'Reilly said</a> in his post responding to Bray's: "...there's something qualitatively different about today's web."</p>

<p>Tim O'Reilly summed it up:</p>

<p><em>"Web 2.0 is the era when people have come to realize that it's not the software that enables the web that matters so much as the services that are delivered over the web. [...] The net has replaced the PC as the platform that matters, just as the PC replaced the mainframe and minicomputer."</em></p>

<p>So much is being built on top of this Web platform nowadays: new media such as blogging and podcasting, old media is moving to the Web, music (e.g. Webjay, iTunes), education, shopping (e.g. Amazon, eBay), marketing, banking, law, government - you name it, it's being built out on the Web.</p>

<p>I think Tom Foremski captured this point <a href="http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2005/08/thoughtleader_t_3.php">in his recent post</a>, when he said:</p>

<p><em>"The new dotcoms are not technology companies, necessarily, but they are all "technology enabled" companies."</em></p>

<p>And that's what Web 2.0 means to me - everyday, non-technical people using Web technologies to enhance their own lives and businesses. The Web is an infrastructure, a foundation. What we create and build <b>on the Web</b> is what Web 2.0 is all about.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Jay Fienberg on 2005-08-07</title>
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        <name>Jay Fienberg</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great to see your response to the recent grumblings.</p>

<p>I have mixed feelings about the web 2.0 moniker. </p>

<p>From my own perspective as someone who was part of "dot-com", I would say, in some contexts, that "web 2.0" is being used to indicate 100% the same thing as "dot-com". </p>

<p>Specially, the way "dot-com" business talked about itself is the way "web 2.0" business talks about itself. (Same is true of many not-yet-businesses.)</p>

<p>On the other hand, the things that you talk about on this site are something that needs a name. And, I think "web 2.0" is a decent enough name for that collection of things.</p>

<p>Personally, I don't think it's useful getting nitpicky about the "web 2.0" term. </p>

<p>If it's going to continue getting framed within a hype bubble, there are no subtle points to make that will likely correct that. </p>

<p>Otherwise, it's a term we web folks can use to point to things we see happening that make new kinds of different webs--that could be good.</p>]]>
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