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  <title>Comments for The Future of Web Apps and Services, circa 2001</title>
  
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    <published>2005-09-20T01:10:19Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:15:49Z</updated>
    <title>The Future of Web Apps and Services, circa 2001</title>
    <summary>I love reading old books about the Web and Internet. I&apos;m in the middle of Stewart Brand&apos;s classic book from the 80&apos;s, The Media Lab, right now. Anyway I came across this 2001 web article from devx called The Future of Web Apps and Services, on the subject of Futurist Paul Saffo&apos;s predictions for the...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p>I love reading old books about the Web and Internet. I'm in the middle of Stewart Brand's classic book from the 80's, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0140097015/002-6859017-4035225?v=glance">The Media Lab</a>, right now. Anyway I came across this 2001 web article from devx called <a href="http://archive.devx.com/free/hotlinks/2001/ednote121201/default.asp">The Future of Web Apps and Services</a>, on the subject of Futurist Paul Saffo's predictions for the Web. There's no exact date on it, but I believe it's from Dec 2001. OK, nearly 4 years ago doesn't count as <em>that</em> historical. But given that this was before RSS was popularised and before Web 2.0 was coined, plus it was right in the middle of the dot com burnout, it's an interesting read. </p>

<p>Saffo said this:</p>

<p><em>"Saffo sees the information evolution of the last 50 years as follows: In the 1950s, the emerging technology was television; the medium was broadcast. In the 1980s, the technology was time-sharing; the medium was e-mail. In the '90s, the technology was (and is) client-server; the medium was (and is) the Web. At the dawn of the 21st century, Saffo sees the emerging technology as peer-to-peer, with the medium in the form of applications such as Napster, Morpheus, and Grokster.</em></p>

<p><em>"It won't be long at all until Web services are simply automatic, done by machines - very little actually programmed by humans," he said. "You set your Napster-like app, and it will find all the music and books you like. You'll be able to let applications do your research for you. Just put your preferences in, and away you go."</em></p>

<p>Two things struck me about those predictions: </p>

<p>1) his usage of the term 'peer-to-peer' and talking about the hip products of that time (Napster, Morpheus, and Grokster). This is very much like us in 2005 talking about Web 2.0 and Google, Flickr, delicious. </p>

<p>2) the automatic web services bit - automation of course has long been a dream/goal for computing and the Internet. But what Saffo described is happening right now with RSS feeds (for books and other retail data) and tools like PubSub (future search). His "Napster-like app" is our RSS Aggregator.</p>

<p>Another Saffo observation:</p>

<p><em>"In the future, we won't be purchasing automobiles, we'll be subscribing to them. Because cars are becoming more software-dependent each year, with pay-by-the-month geo-positioning systems, in-dash e-mail, "smart" information systems, and such, we won't be buying a car so much as subscribing to services that will run the car for us. It's like Microsoft; you don't buy their software as much as you're subscribing to all its successive versions."</em></p>

<p>Ha, I'd never really thought as far ahead as subscribing to a car - but if you think about it, that's the evolutionary path we're on.</p>

<p>Sometimes it pays to look to the past to see how some things stay the same (peer-to-peer then, web 2.0 now), enlighten us about what we've achieved so far (automation with RSS) and remind us where we're headed (subscribing to cars).</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from Roger Benningfield on 2005-09-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>Roger Benningfield</name>
        <uri>http://admin.support.journurl.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Ha, I'd never really thought as far ahead as subscribing to a car..."</p>

<p>Richard: It's called a "lease". :D</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-09-20T02:23:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2005://1.4531-comment:36323</id>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2005-09-19</title>
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        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Touche! :-)</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-09-20T02:29:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bob Wyman on 2005-09-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bob Wyman</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A different way to say this is as follows:</p>

<p>Phase 1 (70's & early 80's): Messaging -- reliably getting a blob of data from one machine to another. The prototypical app was email.</p>

<p>Phase 2 (late 80's & 90's): Request/Response -- On receipt of one message, send an immediate response. The prototypical apps are HTTP and client/server apps.</p>

<p>Phase 3 (00's): Publish/Subscribe -- One message (the subscription) is responded to by multiple independent messages which are published over time. RSS aggregators hint at what the prototypical app will look like even though most of them don't actually use "real" publish/subscribe. PubSub.com implements this model as a general, Internet-scale service.</p>

<p>Each phase is a small incremental step in complexity over the previous phase yet each small incremental step enables an entire ecosystem of new applications and interworking systems. </p>

<p>bob wyman</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-09-20T05:10:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alex Barnett on 2005-09-22</title>
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        <name>Alex Barnett</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kevin Kelly's 'Out of Control' (1995) is one of the books I revisit from time to time.  It is spooky how his description / predictions of the medium-to-long term future have been actually happenning. Lit reading a history book written before the event.  Each time I re-read there is more to realise - as my context changes and as his predictions materialise the book seems to provide more and more depth.  And it is the stuff that hasn't materialised but predicted that is worth looking out for. See <a href="http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/</a></a></p>

<p>Asimov's and Arthur C.Clarke's non-fiction works and predictions are also worth revisiting, if only to be staggered by their uncanny accuracy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-09-23T05:35:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2005-09-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Kevin kelly tip Alex, I haven't read that yet. So I'm downloading to my PDA as I write this!</p>]]>
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    <published>2005-09-23T09:55:11Z</published>
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