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    <title>Web 2.0 Weekly Wrap-up, 26 Sep - 2 Oct 2005</title>
    <summary><![CDATA[This week: Defining Web 2.0, Web-based office, Yahoo media/tv, Google Wifi, Techie Post of the
Week: Tim O'Reilly's What is Web 2.0.&nbsp;]]></summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><b>This week:</b> Defining Web 2.0, Web-based office, Yahoo media/tv, Google Wifi, Techie Post of the
Week: Tim O'Reilly's What is Web 2.0.&nbsp;</p>

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<h2>Defining Web 2.0</h2>

<p>A lot of online trees were felled this week to write about what Web 2.0 means. <a
href="http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6228">Tim O'Reilly's definition</a> is a very
comprehensive one and is more satisfying than his valiant attempt at a <a
href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2005/10/web_20_compact_definition.html">compact
definition</a>. <a
href="http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000170061010/">Barb Dybwad wrote</a>
an impressive social software-based definition, which is a good companion piece to Danah
Boyd's <a
href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/05/why_web20_matte.html">two</a>
<a
href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2005/09/25/why_web20_matte_1.html">posts</a>
so far. <a href="http://web2.wsj2.com/blogoposiumasweb2example.htm">Dion Hinchcliffe</a>
and <a href="http://www.technosight.com/blog/web-20-highlights-for-blogoposium-1/">Ken
Yarmosh</a> are doing sterling work rounding up the wide variety of Web 2.0 definitions
going on. <a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/">TechCrunch</a> as always is right on top
of the latest Web 2.0 developments. Then you have <a
href="http://bokardo.com/archives/which-came-first-rss-or-web-20/">Josh Porter</a> and <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002848.php">yours</a> <a
href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=21">truly</a> doing our analysis thing, as
well as smart people like <a href="http://www.cristianvidmar.com/compass/9/">Cristian
Vidmar</a> and <a
href="http://blogs.msdn.com/alexbarn/archive/2005/10/02/476218.aspx">Alex Barnett</a>.
There's a lot of great Web 2.0 explanations out there...OK there are a lot of posts <a
href="http://37signals.com/svn/archives2/the_top_10_things_that_arent_web_20.php">questioning</a>
the Web 2.0 meme too. I don't mind that at all, as long as they're constructive posts
like <a href="http://icite.net/blog/200510/web2_over.html">Jay Fienberg's</a>.</p>

<h2>Web-based Office</h2>

<p>My post entitled <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=20">The Web-based
Office will have its day</a> on ZDNet got a lot of attention this week, thanks to a <a
href="http://slashdot.org/articles/05/09/29/000223.shtml?tid=126">Slashdotting</a>. In
the post I listed down a group of the latest Web-based Office apps (most of them
AJAX-based) and summarized:</p>

<p>"The time for the web-based office will come, mark my words. When broadband is
ubiquitous, web functionality is richer, issues of security and reliability have been put
to rest, and most importantly of all - when Corporates are ready to make the jump. It may
be 5-10 years down the track, it may be longer."</p>

<p>I must stress that I don't see web-based apps eating Microsoft's lunch anytime soon -
5-10 years is a minimum. Also as <a
href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/SAAS/index.php?p=35">Phil Wainewright</a> pointed out,
web-based apps are most suited to be "collaborative, virtual workspaces" rather than
personal productivity apps like Microsoft Office. That's a good point, although I still
think web-based apps will <b>in the long-run</b> usurp PC-based apps. But then I'm one of
those people who thinks <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/002797.php">everything</a> will be handled in
"the cloud" in future - even identity. It's not a particularly mainstream view, I admit
that.</p>

<h2>Yahoo! Media</h2>

<p>Also in ZDNet this week I wrote about <a
href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=19">Yahoo's media plans</a> and in
particular the work they're doing to converge the Web and television. There are four
pillars to their strategy: Search, Community (content contributed by "everyday users and
semiprofessionals like bloggers"), Professionally created content, and Personalization
technology.&nbsp;</p>

<p>I think there's a lot of potential for interactivity and creativity to surface from
outside traditional quarters (Hollywood in particular) with Yahoo's Web television.
Already we're seeing users take control of their television experience with <a
href="http://www.tivo.com/">TiVo</a> and <a
href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/mediacenter/default.mspx">Media Center</a>. It
sounds like Yahoo! has plans to take that up another level, with even more Web added
to the TV (re)mix.</p>

<h2>Google WiFi</h2>

<p><a href="http://beta.news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5886968.html">Google's plans</a> to
cover San Francisco with free wireless high-speed Internet access was big news in the
blogosphere this week. <a
href="http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051002/D8CVIHNG0.html">The AP thinks</a> this
will create "a springboard for the online search engine leader to leap into the
telecommunications industry" and will be "a testing ground for a national WiFi service."
That view was denied by the Google spokesman in the AP article. Google does admit though
that San Francisco will be a test-ground for "new location-based applications and
services". Note that there are also potential <a
href="http://beta.news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5886968.html">privacy issues</a>.&nbsp;</p>

<p><a href="http://gigaom.com/2005/09/30/google-confirms-san-francisco-wifi-plans/">Om
Malik thinks</a> this could have major implications: "The Google Talk implications on a
free network are quite far reaching, if you ask me, but then that&rsquo;s just
me."&nbsp;</p>

<p><a href="http://benbarren.blogspot.com/2005/09/scoble-links-wifi-search.html">Ben
Barren has an interesting take</a> on this: "Is search and wifi connected to one another
at google at the 'operational strategy level' ? I dont think so. Could they be connected
? Well g-duh, yes."</p>

<h2>Techie Post of the Week: Tim O'Reilly's What is Web 2.0</h2>

<p>Well it goes without saying, but I think the <a
href="http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/6228">What is Web 2.0 essay by Tim O'Reilly</a> is
significant. It's impossible to summarize, so I recommend you take some time and read it
through. If there was one extract I had to highlight, it'd be this [talking about
"Software Above the Level of a Single Device"]:</p>

<p><i>"Of course, any web application can be seen as software above the level of a single
device. After all, even the simplest web application involves at least two computers: the
one hosting the web server and the one hosting the browser. And as we've discussed, the
development of the web as platform extends this idea to synthetic applications composed
of services provided by multiple computers.</i></p>
<p><i>But as with many areas of Web 2.0, where the "2.0-ness" is not something new, but rather
a fuller realization of the true potential of the web platform, this phrase gives us a
key insight into how to design applications and services for the new platform."</i></p>

<p>That's a wrap for another week!</p>]]>
      
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