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Top Ten Web 2.0 Problems Amazon Mechanical Turk Can Solve For Me

By Richard MacManus / November 5, 2005 3:45 AM / Comments

What is Amazon Mechanical Turk? It's a web service that enables you to "complete simple tasks that people do better than computers. And, get paid for it."

Amazon describes it thusly: "...when we think of interfaces between human beings and computers, we usually assume that the human being is the one requesting that a task be completed, and the computer is completing the task and providing the results. What if this process were reversed and a computer program could ask a human being to perform a task and return the results? What if it could coordinate many human beings to perform a task?"

So here's my list of Web 2.0 things I want done, that people could do for me better than computers could:

10. Get an A-Lister to link to me every day (probably can be solved by someone doing various small favours for them, on my behalf).

9. Manually filter my Rojo account at least daily - especially removing the duplicates from my topic feeds.

8. Translate all the best Asian Web 2.0 blogs into English (seriously, I want someone to do that!)

7. Insert Technorati tags and all that other microformat crap into my posts.

6. Enter my blog details into the Ping-o-matic page whenever I post something - and while you're at it, submit my posts to Digg and Slashdot.

5. Click on my Google ads from time to time.

4. Listen to all the podcasts that I never have time to listen to - and report back to me with a summary of what they said.

3. Cook me some spicy noodles, the way Jing Jing in Palo Alto makes them.

2. Turn up to the TechCrunch BBQs on my behalf and constantly remind people that I'm the Father of Web 2.0.

1. Convince a Silicon Valley company to sponsor my US work visa.

International Web 2.0 Events

By Richard MacManus / November 4, 2005 1:58 PM

The UK has its own Web 2.0 Conference on 11 November in Brighton, in the form of d.Construct:

"d.Construct 2005 is the UKís first grassroots Web 2.0 conference. It is an affordable, one-day event aimed at those building the latest generation of web-based applications. The event will discuss how new technology is transforming the web from a document delivery system to an application platform. Internationally renowned speakers will discuss hot-topics such as Ajax, using the power of APIís and the future of the mobile web."

Apparently tickets sold out within 30 minutes of registration! It's an interesting line-up, including representatives from Flickr, BBC Backstage, and Cory Doctorow discussing The Remix Economy. Apparently there will be podcasts of the sessions. (hat-tip Josh Porter)

Also, over in Canada Raincity Studios is running a workshop series on blogging and social networking - with the intriguing title Blogs n Dogs. It's being held at the Banff Centre, Alberta, Canada from December 4th to the 8th 2005. (thanks Will Pate for the tip)

Great to see so much activity happening all over the world in Web 2.0! Feel free to contact me if you know of more happenings. I'm happy to be the TechCrunch of International Web 2.0 Events :-)

Gen Y are Content Creators

By Richard MacManus / November 3, 2005 11:05 PM / Comments

This what it's all about:

"Fully half of all teens and 57% of teens who use the internet could be considered Content Creators. They have created a blog or webpage, posted original artwork, photography, stories or videos online or remixed online content into their own new creations."

That finding is from the Pew Internet & American Life Project Report: Teen Content Creators and Consumers.

This is the current generation of kids - read/write Web babies. They're being brought up as creators and not just consumers. Oh I love the Web...

Attack of the Clones

By Richard MacManus / November 3, 2005 5:16 PM / Comments

So the latest ruckus in tech.blogosphere is about Dave Winer's call to Clone the Google API (note the URL name). Robert Scoble wrote an enthusiastic post entitled Yahoo's new pretty maps are doomed (and so are Microsoftís), which understandably got up the nostrils of Yahoo!'s Jeremy Zawodny.

Microsoft's Dare Obasanjo wrote a post that outlined why Microsoft shouldn't just clone Google. He pointed out that MS and Y! APIs have different feature sets and don't necessarily use the same technology (the Google API uses SOAP), unlimited API user rates don't make business sense, and cloning shows a lack of innovation.

Like Frederico Oliveira, I'm all for competition for Google. But asking the likes of MS and Y! to clone Google isn't the way to go.

I'm now a bit sorry I kicked off this latest obsession with the word "disruptive". But in my world disruptive doesn't mean to copy your competitors, it means to out-innovate.

In summary, like Dave Winer I too would love to see unlimited or 1 million queries per day on the big companies' APIs. Wouldn't we all? However the business case issue around that is important and not easy to gloss over - perhaps I'll try and tackle that in a future post.

For now, let's stop talking about cloning please :-)

Update: Dave Winer points to a great comment by Dave Luebbert, a former development lead on Microsoft Word, in response to my comment over in Fred's blog (which led to this post here by me). Dave Luebbert's response is well worth reading - the crux of it is cloning is good for developers. I still don't see how it's good for MS or Y! to clone Google's API, but I can now see how it may be good for developers and for users of the resulting web apps. I'd be interested in what Dare and Jeremy Z think - and other developers.

Issues Facing Web 2.0 Today

By Richard MacManus / November 3, 2005 11:43 AM / Comments

Dion Hinchcliffe has an excellent post outlining the top 10 issues for Web 2.0 today (an 11th was added in the comments by Paul Montgomery). Here's a summary of Dion's list with comments from me, but be sure to check his site too because he has useful commentary for each point.

1. Excessive Hype: "Nothing will hurt Web 2.0 more than people loudly proclaiming Web 2.0 is the solution to every problem in software. [...] Web 2.0 is merely a powerful way of thinking about the design and construction of effective Web experiences." 
--> RM: I'd also add excessive anti-hype.

2. Lack of Simple Definition
--> RM: I've had most success defining Web 2.0 to normal people using familiar examples, like MyYahoo or Google or even Wikipedia. I still use the staple 'Web as Platform' as my starting-point (and you can't get much more succinct than that), but it needs real examples to back it up.

3. Aging Poster Children: "Flickr and del.icio.us are absolutely terrific examples of the new face of Web 2.0. [but] these guys are getting a little long in the tooth in Web years and while very good, their functionality is nowhere near as central to our lives as say Google, which is already 7 years old." 
--> hence my current search for disruptive technologies.

4. Needing A Permaconnection
--> RM: This one is a matter of time. In my country, New Zealand, the broadband service is expensive and slow. But I survive :-)

5. Ajax as the Official Web 2.0 Experience: "Ajax is getting serious hype at the moment too but quite frankly, people are going to expect so much from it that it will get ugly. [...] Flash might also be a partial answer to certain solutions, and Yahoo! apparently agrees. But I do think we need to focus on solving these problems by tweaking the Web browser model and not hacking things to improve Ajax."

6. Excessive Attention On The Technology
--> RM: I agree, but would add that not enough attention on the technology can also be an issue. As always, it's about striking a balance.

7. Really Bad Adherents. "I'm not going to point fingers here but like every other succesful idea before it, everyone wants to co-opt it."

8. Blogging Instead of Doing. 
--> I think all of us bloggers suffer from this affliction, but as Dion pointed out it applies equally to the Naysayers (in case you were getting smug reading this!).

9. Not Facing Hard Truths. e.g. Dion cites non-shared, private algorithms and the push for near-monopolistic user counts. 
--> RM: a lot of this boils down to being open and letting the user really have control. I think all 3 of the big companies (MS, Google, Y!) have major issues here and it's time for us Web 2.0 pundits to shine some more light on those. I don't know whether we can stop it, but it's worth highlighting at least. If we let the bigco's build Web 2.0, we may find ourselves locked up in data silos. This is the point that Steve Gillmor has been driving at and he is leading the charge for data ownership with AttentionTrust.

10. Adopting The Lightweight Creation Model: "Both Microsoft's entry into the space (Fred Wilson's comments)and Google's recent releases have been pretty underwhelming." 
--> Dion expects "a new generation of companies to build Web 2.0" and I agree, to a point. But established user base and money does still, alas, count for a lot in this world.

11. (from Paul Montgomery) Thinking The Whole World Is Like Silicon Valley: Paul says "I don't know how many times I've read that Memeorandum has "changed the Web", but how many readers does it have outside the people who are mentioned on it? Web 2.0 is still a very small, insular movement. There should be far more attention paid to what people who aren't impossibly well-connected and highly technologically savvy will want from these new services."
--> I find myself agreeing with Paul, not so much about memeorandum but about the whole insularity of Web 2.0 culture. The Yahoo! Maps announcement last night is a prime example. When I was in Silicon Valley, I found myself using Yahoo and Google Maps all the time (mostly the latter). They were so handy. I'm sure I'd be drooling over Yahoo Maps today if I was still in the Valley. But I'm not - I'm on the other side of the world and Yahoo Maps has little relevancy to me, because it doesn't cover this part of the world. The technology is impressive, don't get me wrong, and will be rolled out to the rest of the world in future. But right now it's irrelevant to anyone not living in the US. This is the kind of Silicon Valley-centric culture that Web 2.0 people need to address.

So in summary, a great list from Dion and these are all points we can chip away at.

Microsoft Livens Up Web 2.0

By Richard MacManus / November 2, 2005 1:34 AM / Comments

Summary: My Day 1 impressions of Windows/Office Live are positive and I think Microsoft is taking up the challenge of an increasingly Web-based software world, while at the same time sticking to their desktop software knitting. I'm particularly intrigued by the Xbox 360 relationship and I think we'll see a lot more multimedia coming out of Windows Live in the future. 

This morning Microsoft announced Web 2.0 'software as a service' initiatives that went beyond expectations. There is a lot to take in, so this post is me taking a deep breath and trying to gather together the main points - from a Web 2.0 perspective that is. 

What was announced?

  • Windows Live and Office Live services were the main offerings. 
  • Also an upgraded portal homepage at live.com (building on the start.com technology), which will serve as the homepage for Windows Live services. Like start.com, it has RSS and is AJAX-powered, but live.com adds email (an enhanced AJAX version predictably named Windows Live Mail), IM, Voice over IP, and other features to the mix.
  • A new advertising network: MSN adCenter (Robert Scoble sees this as an important part of Live).
  • Microsoft Gadgets, which are third party applications for Windows Live (Mike Arrington likes 'em).
  • Mojo - Niall Kennedy describes it as "a new collaborative editing program".
  • Windows Live Messenger and Mail - upgrades to Hotmail and Messenger. Niall has a good wrap.

Live Platform
Bill Gates gives us the outlook for Thursday - mainly fine, but clouds developing. Photo by Niall Kennedy.

Some key words and phrases

  • seamless experiences [meaning between the desktop and Web]
  • software plus services
  • Live (obviously...)

Some key points

  • Windows Live and Office Live are separate products from the desktop Windows OS and MS Office programs. In the press release, they're described as "compelling enhancements". In Bill Gates' speech, they were described as "natural complements to Office and Windows." Micheal Gartenberg called them "extensions". I think you get the picture - Live won't replace the desktop versions. I'd add: at least in the short to medium term.
  • It's interesting that the branding is being aligned closely with Xbox Live, probably Microsoft's most successful media entertainment product over the past few years. Far more successful than MSN. 
  • Windows Live is the consumer product and will be supported by advertising, with subscription and transaction-based services offered.
  • Office Live is described as "a new set of Internet-based services for growing and managing a business online" and is specifically targeted at small businesses. However the press release included this intriguing line: "Over time, the scope of Office Live services will expand." 
  • Both Windows Live and Office Live hook into Microsoft's system of developer and partner networks.
  • Frequent software updates, which will extend to the Windows OS too.

Blog highlights

  • Microsoft developer Dare Obasanjo summarizes Windows Live as 1) web apps with rich UI (i.e. mostly AJAX), 2) smart desktop apps and integration between consumer apps, 3) The Web as a platform.
  • Tim O'Reilly pointed out that "Microsoft realizes the power of being able to build an integrated experience across a hardware device, a software application, and an internet service"; citing Xbox 360 (similar to the iTunes story Tim refers to all the time).
  • Heh, Nivi pointed out in the comments at CrunchNotes that "live" spelt backwards is "evil"!! :-) Nivi says: "And Google is not “evil”. Which means that Google = Microsoft." Hee hee.
  • Some dissenting opinions: Danny Ayers thinks this is "Plan C" and is doomed. Phil Pearson had trouble subscribing to Scripting News. Russell Beattie sees Live as "extensions to their desktop monopolies". Mary Jo Foley thinks there was "more posturing than substance in the Microsoft Live unveilings".
  • BetaNews asks: are MSN's days numbered? The party line in the press release is that MSN will continue to provide "programmed content", while Windows Live will provide "a personalized experience with access to customized content and communications." Dan Farber thinks Windows Live and MSN may unite at some point in the future. My opinion: Microsoft has far too much invested in the 10-year old MSN brand to drop it now, but I think eventually they'll phase it out.
  • Alex Barnett points out the value of looking at this news from "a historical perspective". I agree - in 5-10 years time we'll look back on this and say that it was when Microsoft embraced the Web as platform, or Web 2.0, or whatever it'll be called in future. Just as Microsoft embraced the Internet in 1995, so they're embracing the thing called Web 2.0 right now. Mind you, perhaps Vista in 2006 will trump this news...

My Day 1 Analysis - Multimedia still to come

Whew! A lot of information to try and distil. My Day 1 impressions are positive though. I think Microsoft is taking up the challenge of an increasingly Web-based software world, while at the same time sticking to their desktop software knitting. I'm particularly intrigued by the Xbox 360 relationship and I think we'll see a lot more multimedia coming out of Windows Live in the future

Microsoft's biggest product plays may still be to come - Internet TV and the Media Centre, Xbox 360, video conferencing, mobile, and other Web-connected devices. These are all things that require the hardware/software/Internet package - and of the 3 big companies, Microsoft has shown itself to be the most capable at implementing that. Well, Google has the software/Internet integration all sorted, but they have shown us little in terms of hardware. Apple is of course the acknowledged master, but they're not on the same playing field as Microsoft, Google and Yahoo. So I expect Microsoft's Live strategy to really take off once they introduce more multimedia to the mix.

Live.com is now live

By Richard MacManus / November 1, 2005 11:11 AM / Comments

As part of the news this morning (my coverage here), Microsoft has released a website called live.com. It appears to be start.com under a new name - i.e. the RSS Reader/portal homepage that was released earlier this year. And it still doesn't have decent Firefox support! Dave Winer has a screenshot.

Back-story of live.com domain

The actual Live.com domain name used to be owned by a group of developers building Streaming Media products. This from the homespun weblog back in February 2005:

"The Live.com folks have developed a number of C++ source-code libraries for use in building streaming media applications. They have made some applications developed with these libraries available also - I was very interested in LiveCaster, an application to multicast MP3s on the internet."

Interesting to see where Microsoft goes with this...

Microsoft Announces The Live Era

By Richard MacManus / November 1, 2005 10:44 AM / Comments

Microsoft just announced its new Web-based Windows and 'software as a service' strategies. After first announcing the Xbox 360 will be released on Nov 22 in North America, Gates talked about their new "Live" brand (thanks Mike from TechCrunch for the news - he has pictures too). The "Live" era will encompass the "Software Plus Services" strategy and is all about providing "seamless experiences". Their goal is "Building Live Software". The brand will encompass Windows Live and Office Live - integration with the Web.

This is Microsoft's Web 2.0 strategy, except substitute the word "Live" for that term.

live

Mike has more details:

"Came back on stage at 10:37, announced Windows Live and Office Live.

Windows Live: Primarily ad supported. Does not kill off MSN.

Office Live: ìinternet based services for growing and managing your business online.î extensible, thousands of partners. ad supported level with tier above requiring subscription."

Dan Farber has the news too: "In opening the event today, Bill Gates said that every five years Microsoft looks at its strategy and makes big betsñ1990 was Windows, the Web in 1995 and Web Services .Net in 2000. The next big bet, Gates said, is delivering new type of software experience, called "live software." [...] Sounds like a bit of Web 2.0 mixed with Microsoft's live naming themeñLive Meeting, XBox Live. Services = Software, in a broad way, from hosted services like email and CRM to MSN and mapping mashups."

live2

Photos from Mike Arrington. More to come on the news, as I get details...

Update: See my follow-up post about Live.com. I'll also write some analysis later on in the day, when I've got the full picture.

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