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    <published>2006-08-29T01:07:00Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:16:14Z</updated>
    <title>Business Models For Start Pages</title>
    <summary>Recently a new personalized start page product was announced, Webwag. In the comments to my post about Webwag, several people expressed their view that start pages are not a viable business. Personally I think start pages have plenty of opportunities to make money, despite (and sometimes because of) competition from Microsoft, Google and Yahoo. An...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Recently a new personalized start page product was announced, <a
href="http://www.webwag.com/">Webwag</a>. In the comments to <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/webwag.php">my post about Webwag</a>, several
people expressed their view that start pages are not a viable business. Personally I
think start pages have plenty of opportunities to make money, despite (and sometimes
because of) competition from Microsoft, Google and Yahoo.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://static.flickr.com/91/227725403_08a8064d72.jpg?v=0"
alt="start pages" /></p>

<h2>An independent platform</h2>

<p>The first point to make is that - unlike the big Internet companies - start pages like
<a href="http://www.netvibes.com">Netvibes</a>, <a
href="http://www.pageflakes.com">Pageflakes</a> and <a
href="http://www.webwag.com/">Webwag</a> are independent. This means they can act as a
platform for a wider range of businesses than the big Internet companies - whose main
purpose is to be a platform for their own portal products.</p>

<p>In practical terms, what this means is that the small start pages can make
partnerships with other small businesses and startups. A recent example of this is <a
href="http://www.pageflakes.com">Pageflakes</a> teaming up with <a
href="http://www.zixxo.com">Zixxo</a> to <a
href="http://community.pageflakes.com/blogs/ole/archive/2006/08/28/1224.aspx">offer local
coupons</a>. As the Pageflakes blog put it:</p>

<blockquote>
<p>"...businesses can create and manage their coupons with&nbsp;Zixxo and they syndicate
them out to local consumers through partner websites. All Pageflakes users can now add
the Zixxo Flake to their personal page and search for local coupons, specials and
discounts."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Pageflakes has also recently <a
href="http://community.pageflakes.com/blogs/christoph1/archive/2006/08/26/1219.aspx">buddied
up with</a> Odeo Podcasts, Rapleaf Reputations, Correios Package Tracking and others.</p>

<p>Netvibes also has a raft of partner modules - including for <a
href="http://blog.netvibes.com/?2006/05/31/65-netvibes-announce-the-ebay-module">eBay</a>,
<a
href="http://blog.netvibes.com/?2006/05/31/63-netvibes-announce-the-digg-module">Digg</a>,
<a
href="http://blog.netvibes.com/?2006/07/25/71-netvibes-introduces-meebo-and-alexa-modules">
Meebo and Alexa</a>.</p>

<p>So we're seeing a number of these 'partnerships' happening in the start page space and
it'll only increase over time. While there's nothing stopping the big companies (Google,
MS, Y!) doing the same, in reality their major priority is to promote their own
proprietary product range. For example, why would Google Personalized Page promote <a
href="http://www.zixxo.com">Zixxo</a>'s coupons when they have their own <a
href="http://www.google.com/local/add/coupons">Google Local coupons</a>?</p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/81/227729782_6e21c4118b.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>Pageflakes homepage</i></p>

<h2>The Widgetizing of the Web</h2>

<p>If you consider the trend towards a world of widgets and gadgets (mini web
applications), you begin to see the potential to make real money from an independent
platform. As I wrote in a June article entitled <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_future_of_p.php">The Future of
Personalized Start Pages</a>, the likes of Pageflakes and Netvibes "are building up to a
near future where gadgets/widgets will be <b>much more plentiful and functional</b>.
Basically these start pages are expecting the world of web services to blossom in the
next few years, which is my expectation too."</p>

<p>The big Internet companies stand to gain a lot from this too - e.g. in my recent <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/george_moore_interview.php">interview with GM
Windows Live George Moore</a>, he said that Windows Live is being built on their gadget
architecture. Microsoft expects to see gadgets being used across many different devices.
Moore said:</p>

<blockquote>
<p>"The gadget architecture can actually render to any number of different technologies.
It can render to DHTML, to Avalon, etc. So it would be up to the gadget author to detect
if they're running on a Vista machine, if they choose."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>So widgets/gadgets are ramping up to be a key part of the Web platform going forward,
which all the start pages (big and small) are ideally placed to leverage. And the smaller
start pages have certainly not shied away from building up their platforms. Pageflakes
now has <a href="http://www2.pageflakes.com/flakegallery/all.html">100 "flakes"</a> (i.e.
widgets) and recently introduced <a
href="http://community.pageflakes.com/blogs/ole/archive/2006/08/08/1168.aspx">more
customization options</a>. Likewise, Netvibes is putting in <a
href="http://blog.netvibes.com/?2006/08/17/75-the-future-of-netvibes">a lot of work</a>
on their <a href="http://eco.netvibes.com/modules/">module ecosystem</a>.</p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/65/227729786_263d9ba6cb.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>Netvibes Ecosystem</i></p>

<h2>White Labelling</h2>

<p>Another option for small start pages is to white label their technology - i.e. offer
it to other organizations as a customizable start page. I can see a lot of potential
demand <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/update_on_perso.php">from
corporates</a> and media companies to use a start page, with their own branding, so that
employees and/or customers may create their own 'portal' experience. Similar to <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/reddit_white_la.php">what Reddit is doing</a>
in the social news space.</p>

<h2>Affiliate Marketing</h2>

<p>Webwag CEO Franck Poisson <a
href="http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/361574/webwag-enters-customisable-start-page-tussle.html">
said that</a> affiliate marketing is a key aspect of their start page, a la what Netvibes
is doing with <a href="http://www.kelkoo.co.uk/">Kelkoo</a>. And as e-consultancy <a
href="http://www.e-consultancy.com/news-blog/361247/are-all-ajax-homepages-doomed.html">recently
wrote</a>, there is potential for start pages to move into 'social shopping'. This could
mean building on the partnerships mentioned above and ensuring that start pages get a cut
of whatever is sold via a merchant's widget on their page.</p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/92/227729783_0c97028c4c.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>New start page, Webwag</i></p>

<h2>International Expansion</h2>

<p>This is one of the more interesting areas for small start pages to explore,
particularly given the relative weakness of the big Internet companies outside of the US
and english-speaking countries. It's interesting to note that the small start pages I've
mentioned in this post are all based in Europe - Pageflakes in Germany, Netvibes in
France and Webwag in France too.</p>

<p>Netvibes is <a
href="http://blog.netvibes.com/?2006/08/17/75-the-future-of-netvibes">in the process</a>
of making their service much more international:</p>

<blockquote>
<p>"At netvibes, we are actively working to make our service available to everyone in
every language. In fact, we have already built a collaborative tool for the translation
of any content on netvibes. The service, now in beta, enabled us to successfully
translate the site into Spanish and Japanese."</p>
</blockquote>

<p>Similarly, Pageflakes has recently localized to <a
href="http://www.pageflakes.com.cn/">China</a>, <a
href="http://community.pageflakes.com/blogs/ole/archive/2006/06/28/1162.aspx">Brazil</a>
and <a
href="http://community.pageflakes.com/blogs/ole/archive/2006/06/29/1163.aspx">Germany</a>.</p>

<p>So catering to the international markets is a key way that the small start pages can
do business - because as I've discovered while doing my series on <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/top_web_apps_china.php">international web
apps</a>, <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/trademe_big_fish_small_pond.php">localization
matters</a> and it's something the big Internet companies aren't necessarily good at.</p>

<h2>Summary</h2>

<p>Pageflakes CEO Christoph Janz told me that "personalized startpages like Pageflakes
have a business model that is similar to 'old school' portals: build a large customer
base and monetize it via advertising, e-commerce commissions and lead generation." And
Christoph believes the independence of small start pages will enable them to "connect
thousands of providers with millions of consumers of digital content, services and
applications."</p>

<p>Which is to say: there are opportunities aplenty for smart start pages and I think the
early entrants Netvibes and Pageflakes are particularly well-placed to take advantage of
them. I'll be interested to see what Webwag brings to the table, plus it wouldn't
surprise me to see more entrants to this market (e.g. it's not a stretch for the likes of
<a href="http://www.suprglu.com">Suprglu</a> or <a
href="http://www.43things.com">43Things</a> to consider doing a start page).</p>

<p>Of course the big 3 will likely take a huge chunk of the start pages market, but in my view there are more than enough opportunities for the smaller players.</p>]]>
      
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    <title>Comment from alex on 2006-08-28</title>
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        <name>alex</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What about companies like goowy, who use minis for their start page metaphor...try it at <a href="http://start.goowy.com" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://start.goowy.com" rel="nofollow">http://start.goowy.com</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T02:37:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Charles Hudson on 2006-08-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Charles Hudson</name>
        <uri>http://www.charleshudson.net/weblog</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. One thing I would point out, however, is that Google's personalized homepage basically allows anyone, even services offered by competitors, to create a module/gadget that users can add to their homepages. For example, there is a Flickr widget that will display Flickr photos on a Google personalized homepage. There is really nothing stopping any of the companies you mentioned above from creating modules and encouraging Google users to add them to their personalized pages -- they are just not likely to get the level of co-marketing pop from the "Big 3" in areas where those firms have competitive products.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T02:42:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ole on 2006-08-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ole</name>
        <uri>http://www.pageflakes.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On a personal note: I am surprised to see even more independent startups in the start pages area to popup these days. The big 3 and several smaller, independent competitors are already up and running (and have the funding), and still there is a no end in sight when it comes to new startups. Shows how much interest there is in the whole market I assume. I wouldn't be surprised to see some VERY tough fights in the near future. Would be interesting to look back on all this in 2008 ;-)</p>

<p>Cheers<br />
Ole</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T03:52:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cedric on 2006-08-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cedric</name>
        <uri>http://www.chouingmedia.com/index.php?2006/08/12/32-web-20-definition-histoire-et-prospectives</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
1. I Totally agree with Charles Hudson.<br />
It seems that "big 4" (google, yahoo, msn and aol) understood their mistakes. They all have API that allow users to create widgets. <br />
I thought few weeks (months) ago that it could be a problem for them to open their interface, but I was wrong.</p>

<p>2. As you wrote, startpages "buddied up" with other services. But I'm not sure that there is deal with "cash".</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>C√©dric (a french guy)</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T07:13:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pascal on 2006-08-29</title>
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        <name>Pascal</name>
        <uri>http://www.pascalrossini.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hello, I write a post "Netvibes, Pageflakes, WebWag, or how to monetise my ‚Äúme‚Ä? ? one week ago on this subject. <br />
<a href="http://www.pascalrossini.com/wordpress_eng/?p=259" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.pascalrossini.com/wordpress_eng/?p=259" rel="nofollow">http://www.pascalrossini.com/wordpress_eng/?p=259</a></a> </p>

<p>Cheers, pascal</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T08:39:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Emre Sokullu on 2006-08-29</title>
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        <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Another great and very precious mass analysis article. Thank you very very much!</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T10:55:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Frank Brown on 2006-08-29</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if any progress are these start pages making in regards to developing an Enterprise Start Page that would have the security model in place to leverage widgets developed for tools like SF.com and Basecamp. </p>

<p>Thanks,<br />
Frank</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T12:17:51Z</published>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wow. What a great write-up. It's been so easy to sit back and predict the only future for start pages was to get bought out by the giants. Your article's definitely opened my eyes to more possibilities. I particularly enjoyed your take on white-labeling potential.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-29T19:18:09Z</published>
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        <![CDATA[<p>one web-based messenger i came across was koolim.com and i love it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-08-30T14:49:32Z</published>
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