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    <published>2006-10-16T06:05:41Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:16:25Z</updated>
    <title>JotSpot&apos;s Hybrid Wiki/Office Suite - 3 New Apps Launched</title>
    <summary>To further Read/WriteWeb&apos;s continuing look at the Web Office space, I spoke again recently with Joe Kraus - CEO of JotSpot. What started out as a wiki company, is slowly but surely morphing into a Web Office suite contender. Although JotSpot does not actually position itself in that way - they&apos;re positioned as a kind...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://static.flickr.com/104/271037728_afca115d33_m.jpg"
align="left" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="191" height="47" />To further Read/WriteWeb's
continuing look at the Web Office space, I spoke again recently with Joe Kraus - CEO of
<a href="http://www.jot.com">JotSpot</a>. What started out as a wiki company, is slowly
but surely morphing into a Web Office suite contender. Although JotSpot does not actually
position itself in that way - they're positioned as a kind of wiki/office hybrid, which
we discuss in detail in this post. Also JotSpot has just released 3 new features, which
are outlined below.</p>

<p>Back in July, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=243">JotSpot released
its 2.0 version</a>. It was described by Joe Kraus at that point as "wikis meets
Microsoft Office". The upgrade enabled JotSpot users to collaborate on different types of
"office-like" products. Its spreadsheet product, Tracker, was integrated into their core
wiki product - along with calendars, File Cabinets, Photo Pages.</p>

<h2>New Features</h2>

<p>In the latest release of JotSpot, more apps have been added to their application
gallery: <b>group directory, forum and To Do Lists</b>. Nothing revolutionary there, but
it beefs up their Office Suite credentials a bit more. This screenshot from their <a
href="http://www.jot.com/gallery/">Applications Gallery page</a> shows the latest list of
office (aka productivity) apps:</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/jotspot_apps.jpg" width="419"
height="206" /></p>

<h2>Page Type Model</h2>

<p>These are all "Page Types", which basically means different types of productivity
applications presented as Wiki pages. The theory behind this, Joe told me, is that all
the Page Types "have this wiki-esque properties - they're group editable, they're
immediately collaborative, they have the same access control model on top of them."</p>

<h2>Hybrid Wiki/Office</h2>

<p>Joe said to me that although JotSpot still positions itself as a wiki nowadays - they
don't necessarily see themselves in that space in 5-10 years. But he said the metaphor of
wikis still has appeal to people, as a representation of the Web's shift from a monolog
to a dialog - aka the read/write web! JotSpot then is about "bringing the familiarity
that people have with office [software] and bringing the Wiki metaphor to that." In
essence, bringing the 'dialog' and collaboration features of wikis into the office
environment.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The reason JotSpot is positioning itself as something different than a straight Web
Office Suite (with word processing, spreadsheets, etc) is that Joe believes Microsoft
itself will eventually position itself in that market. They don't want to compete with
them with that positioning - hence the wiki/office hybrid vision which JotSpot has, which
approaches the space from a different angle. JotSpot's strategy is to "embrace and extend
the space" (more on that in <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=140">an
earlier interview I did with Joe</a>).</p>

<p>I completely agree with Joe that Web Office startups need to do things differently and
more Web native than Microsoft (and Google). Indeed that's the topic I spoke about in my
recent <a
href="http://www.office20podcasts.com/2006/10/09/richard-macmanus-office-20-as-a-new-paradigm/">
Office 2.0 Podcast Jam podcast</a>.</p>

<h2>Screenshots of new JotSpot features</h2>

<p>To conclude, here are screenshots of the latest new JotSpot Page Types:</p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/81/271023503_0415998c44.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>Group Directory</i></p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/121/271023332_5237064324.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>Forum</i></p>

<p><img border="0"
src="http://static.flickr.com/84/271023145_1f0f4c2fff.jpg?v=0" /><br />
<i>To Do List</i></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Nick Lothian on 2006-10-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nick Lothian</name>
        <uri>http://wwwscope.com/2006/09/12/online-application-composition-mashups/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>JotSpot's in a pretty good position in this market, an dI like their strategy of trying to expand the market. I've written a <a href="http://wwwscope.com/2006/09/12/online-application-composition-mashups/" rel="nofollow">piece on them and some of their competitors</a>.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-10-16T11:50:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Emre Sokullu on 2006-10-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
        <uri>http://emresokullu.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's interesting to see Wiki and web based office spaces merging. Writely was also a very wiki like application. I think web based office approach is better, wiki is too geekish, no need to wiki syntax, wysiwyg editor should be enough for everything.</p>

<p>And AFAIK, Wikio was the first to introduce wiki like spreadsheets functionality. I liked this innovation, good to see this expands. And it's a good way for differentiating yourself in the highly competitive and crowded wiki space.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-10-16T20:12:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jean-Michel Decombe on 2006-10-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jean-Michel Decombe</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I like the JotSpot product very much. However, I think they should be careful to put a lof of effort into making the current offering more reliable. It is indeed nice to have all these new apps integrated, but optimizing what it already there, fixing the basics, is more important. I am just talking as a user of their $70/month package. For instance, you still cannot have two pages with the same name in your wiki. Hello? There is a fundamental architectural flaw here. Also, image insertion in a page is just horribly designed. And so forth.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-10-16T21:46:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Emre Sokullu on 2006-10-16</title>
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        <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
        <uri>http://emresokullu.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jean-Michel, this is a design decision in software engineering. You may sometimes prefer horizontal development over the vertical one because of some special/economic reasons. But I agree, this should not be the case in a paid product which is targeting enterprise consumers. We also prefered horizontal development in Grou.ps but got bad feedback about it, but our users don't pay anything at least.</p>

<p>By the way, I didn't test what you claim here, this was based on your comments.</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-10-17T00:36:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Isaac Garcia on 2006-10-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Isaac Garcia</name>
        <uri>http://www.centraldesktop.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jean-Michel,<br />
Most wiki's share this same quality of not allowing two pages with the same name in a wiki. </p>

<p>As Emre suggested, its an architecture "thing" that is difficult to convert at a later date.  </p>

<p>While I'm sure there are wiki's that support duplicate page names in a single wiki, I can't think of any nor do I know of any.  </p>

<p>Anyone?</p>]]>
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    <published>2006-10-22T23:17:30Z</published>
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