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    <published>2007-05-18T03:01:41Z</published>
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    <title>Google Universal Search - is Vertical Search Space Finished?</title>
    <summary> digg_url = &apos;http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_Universal_Search_is_Vertical_Search_Space_Finished&apos;; digg_bgcolor = &apos;#ffffff&apos;; digg_skin = &apos;compact&apos;; Back in September of last year we wrote about the rise of vertical search engines here. In that article we emphasized the superiority of vertical search over generic search, in terms of search results. We argued that knowing the semantics of the underlying domain allows...</summary>
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      <name>Alex Iskold</name>
      <uri>http://www.adaptiveblue.com</uri>
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/google_logo.png" vspace="5" hspace="5" align="left">Back in September of last year we wrote about the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/vertical_search.php">rise of vertical search engines</a> here. In that article we emphasized the superiority of vertical search over generic search, in terms of search results. We argued that knowing the semantics of the underlying domain allows a vertical search engine to excel both in filtering the result, as well as the presentation.</p>
        
        <p>In a follow up post at the beginning of this year we explored the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_race_to_beat_google.php">The Race to Beat Google</a>, by dissecting the different approaches Google's competitors are taking to unseat the search king. We discussed three major categories: a better technology, a better user interface, and vertical search as a domain-focused blend of the first two. We concluded that Google is still the search king and even if there is a technology out there that has promise, Google is not going to miss it.</p>
        <p>This week, when Google <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_does_google_universal_search_compare.php">rolled out Universal Search</a>, our expectations were confirmed. The morning after questions are: who is hurt? who is wounded? and who is dead? The big question is: does Google Universal search mean the end of Vertical Search era?</p>]]>
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       <h2>What did Google roll out?</h2>
        <p>This week Google introduced <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/universal-search-best-answer-is-still.html">Universal Search</a>, a search product still in its early stages but that, at its core, combines searches across heterogeneous media: text, images, news, maps and video. But really, Universal Search is much more than that. It's a calculated shot aimed at a particular subset of the vertical search engines - <b>the ones that claim to understand the underlying domain</b>. Google already had search for each of these verticals, so all it has done is combined the results from all these searches into their main search results (where all the page views are).</p>
        <p>Why does this make sense? Because mainstream consumers should not be given the choice upfront. You do not need to ask a person what they are searching for, because you can disambiguate the results by letting the user click on the right answer. This is exactly what Universal Search does.</p>
        <p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/502768640_1fd10203be.jpg?v=0"></p>
        <p>Note the simplicity and elegance of this solution. All that Google is doing is aggregating matches from different verticals. Then for each vertical that matched, it offers to refine the results further. That means that, for example, if you search for <em>Read/WriteWeb</em> and there are no images that match, the refinement for images will not be shown. Now fathom the complexity of this! Google does a parallel search across multiple verticals and instantly aggregates the results. This is not difficult to conceive of, but it certainly is quite difficult to implement.</p>
        <h2>But wait, there's more....clustering and time</h2>
        <p>Google takes this further yet. The refinements are possible not only for verticals, but also for clusters. This is a function that we have not seen in Google properties before - <b>clustering</b>. Universal Search lets users drill into specific clusters of results, both subsets and related searches:</p>
        <p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/502805553_c8edac75cb.jpg?v=0"></p>
        <p>Yet another interesting dimension that Google brings to search results is <b>time</b>. Users of universal search can partition the search results by history. This is a subtle but really valuable and innovative angle. Here are for example, are the results for <em>nanotechnology</em>:</p>
        <p><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/502768814_0f27b38348.jpg?v=0"></p>
        <p>To sum up, Google rolled out more than an aggregator for verticals. What we are seeing is <b>a hybrid approach</b> - tackling vertical search using knowledge of semantics (i.e. understanding the subject), co-occurrence (clustering) and time. It is also clear that these dimensions are only some of the possible slices that Google can execute.</p>
        <h2>Who is hurt?</h2>
        <p>So where does this leave us and what is the score now in Google vs The Others? It appears that Google has executed a major blow to the entire competitive search market and some specialized competitors. Why? Because Google just showed that they care about vertical search, they can do it well and, most importantly, they have <b>an algorithm that generalizes the vertical search</b>.</p>
        <p>As it stands, any vertical search engine for Images, News or Video is endangered. Also, clustering search engines like <a href="http://www.clusty.com">Clusty</a> seem to be out of luck. But the engines that try to present search results in a different way are still in business. Google's frugal approach to UI still keeps it out of the business of radically redesigning the presentation of results, leaving an opportunity to other companies.</p>
        <h2>Who will be hurt?</h2>
        <p>Perhaps the most unexpected conclusion that we draw from the Universal Search is that no vertical is now safe. What would stop Google from including music, movies, jobs and travel in the list of right-hand contextual search navigation? Nothing really, it is just a matter of integration and a little time. No vertical is safe anymore.</p>
        <p>Perhaps the sad part in the whole search game, as in any other game, is inertia. Because Google is so big and popular and dominant, it does not need bells and whistles to win. Sure, all UI innovation is interesting and nice, but it may not be able to get beyond the early adopter crowd - simply because what Google delivers is good enough (or even great enough!) for the average consumer. So while there is certainly room left to innovate in the search presentation space, the utility vs. adoption equation is still by far in Google's favor.</p>
        <h2>Conclusion</h2>
        <p>It appears that Universal search delivers a major blow to the entire vertical search space. We have <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/hakia_meaning-based_search.php">argued for a while that</a> innovative/better technologies will have a difficult time competing against Google's algorithm. And now the verticals are threatened by Universal Search. Since UI improvements are also difficult, because not all consumers respond to them well, it appears that Google's latest move has solidified its position as the search king.</p>
        <p>Is this unexpected? No. Is this bad? Not really. This is just how things work - Google is not going to give up its leadership easily, just like Microsoft did not want to and still does not. In the mean time, as always, we have the pleasure of witnessing this gigantic battle for search, for advertising, for eyeballs and of course ultimately - the dollars.</p>
        <p>Now, tell us what do you think about the latest Google move.
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    <title>Comment from NitinK on 2007-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>NitinK</name>
        <uri>http://blog.softwareabstractions.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hmm - this fits in surprisingly well with my recent <a href="http://blog.softwareabstractions.com/the_software_abstractions/2007/05/a_conceptual_ar.htm" rel="nofollow">conceptual architecture for search</a> post on the Software Abstractions blog, which predicted that Google would provide a variety of Vertical Search engines behind the simple "search box" on their front page (the architecture also suggested freshness dates and rich content types).</p>

<p>But, Alex, I find it hard to believe that "no vertical search engine is safe". The best Vertical Search engines do a lot more than simply offering search results limited to a given domain; often, they provide specialized UI paradigms, domain-specific parameters, communities, partnerships within the domain, related services, and so on. Until Google can start focusing on these additional strengths (and I'm guessing they will stick to some key domains for the forseeable future, like jobs, real estate and travel), VSEs will continue to dominate specific domains. As an example, Zillow and Trulia provide results and services in real estate that go far beyond simply finding relevant web documents.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T05:33:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from NitinK on 2007-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>NitinK</name>
        <uri>http://blog.softwareabstractions.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sheesh - bad link in my comment above. Forgive the spam. The correct link to the search architecture is <a href="http://blog.softwareabstractions.com/the_software_abstractions/2007/05/a_conceptual_ar.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T05:39:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3794-comment:32645</id>
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    <title>Comment from Eric Eldon on 2007-05-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Eric Eldon</name>
        <uri>http://www.writewith.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post! Regardless of what actually happens with search over the next few years, you did a better job of articulating the "why" behind Google's recent announcements than Google itself did.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T06:32:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Wilbur on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Wilbur</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kosmix is another such search engine. Check out their search results: <a href="http://www.kosmix.com/Info/bronchitis-s?" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.kosmix.com/Info/bronchitis-s?" rel="nofollow">http://www.kosmix.com/Info/bronchitis-s?</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T07:04:00Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3794-comment:32647</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alex Iskold on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex Iskold</name>
        <uri>http://www.adaptiveblue.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Nitin,</p>

<p>I agree that vertical search engines do much more. For example, Retrevo is going above and beyond in the electronics space. What I am wondering if where is the line that would push consumers to leave Google for something else? Perhaps Google can do just enough in each vertical to keep them from crossing over.</p>

<p>Alex</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T13:10:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Robert Dewey on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Robert Dewey</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Vertical search need not worry too much... there are still a few areas that Google can't dominate. I have a feeling we'll see more semantics on the web, associating data and content with users rather than PageRank.</p>

<p>For example, who do you turn to when you want to check a friend's calendar / schedule? What about when you want to find a listing on eBay: did you know your friend's friend is selling an item that you want?</p>

<p>Google isn't capable of mastering that vertical, yet... and I think there's a chance someone else could tap into it before they do.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T14:06:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Adrian Keys on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Adrian Keys</name>
        <uri>http://www.jollyjo.org/scoming/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Thanks for the great post! Regardless of what actually happens with search over the next few years, you did a better job of articulating the "why" behind Google's recent announcements than Google itself did". </p>

<p>Eric...I agree with every word. I saw the Google rollout but without this post I would not have gotten the essence.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T14:09:43Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3794-comment:32650</id>
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    <title>Comment from shadilac on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>shadilac</name>
        <uri>http://feedbite.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure about that. When I think vertical search, the first thing that comes to mind is autotrader. There really isn't anything Google can do to compete with autotrader, even if they threw in some Google Base ads. A Google search will never be as targeted as autotrader for auto sales.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T14:18:38Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3794-comment:32651</id>
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    <title>Comment from David Berkowitz on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>David Berkowitz</name>
        <uri>http://www.marketersstudio.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think this will raise awareness of vertical search and make it even more popular. Once you know you can use Google to search images, videos, news, blogs, patents, scholarly journals, etc etc etc, when you only want to search for a certain type of asset, then you'll turn to vertical search for it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T14:21:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Paul Montgomery on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Paul Montgomery</name>
        <uri>http://tinfinger.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why are you showing screenshots from Google Experimental? Universal Search is part of the main Google search results now, surely that's far more important than the skunkworks stuff.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T15:06:15Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3794-comment:32653</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sputtr Team on 2007-05-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sputtr Team</name>
        <uri>http://www.sputtr.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sputtr is safe! :P .. Jokes aside, I wonder how Yahoo will react. Also, it's interesting to see that Microsoft today is acquiring AQuantive for $6 Billion (85% premium over market cap!!) .. they are desperate!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-18T21:46:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maureen Flynn-Burhoe on 2007-05-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maureen Flynn-Burhoe</name>
        <uri>http://oceanflynn.wordpress.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I use my Del.icio.us and to some extent Swicki and Google's customized search as highly customized and individualized webliographies related to areas that I know I will be searching out and reading again. Delicious offers the possibility of clustering tags into clouds that provide a visual image of areas of interest (as does Wordpress through the wordpress-featured-tags capacity. I use del.icio.us even more than zotero and EndNote because of its seamless connection to Firefox. del.icio.us allows a user to input a comprehensive title such as author, date, title in one field, an abstract in another and key words. Delicious also allows users to keep track of individual blog entries including YouTube, GoogleVideos, Flickr (which appear as images in the  del.icio.us).  </p>

<p>But I have my own customized iGoogle homepage and I google constantly and will continue to do so with its new improved version. Google feeds delicio.us, swicki  . . . </p>

<p>If I want to find the full-text source for a phrase such as "an algorithm that generalizes the vertical search" I only use Google. And I land on your page first thing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-19T19:01:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from avi on 2007-05-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>avi</name>
        <uri>http://www.avich.com/mycv</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From what I can see these are nothing more than mockups. I tried to get a timeline result for the word ‚Äúinternet‚Ä? and got 7 results. Is this a joke? Anyone can publish a mockup of every great search idea he has. When is this going to be really functional?</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-20T12:56:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Yong Su Kim on 2007-05-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Yong Su Kim</name>
        <uri>http://www.askpedia.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think there's still room for vertical search engines, but they're going to have to move faster than Google.  Despite all the hype about Google's ability to innovate, it actually took quite a long time for this universal search to be released.  </p>

<p>People seem to forget that given Google's size, they're going to suffer from organizational inertia that's going to act as a drag on their ability to innovate.  Google is doing a good PR job on portraying themself as an innovation leader, but if you look at the recent vertical search and social computing innovations, they're all came from nimble startups instead of Google.  </p>

<p>I don't see this changing in the near future.  Search is a constantly evolving market and we're just getting started with vertical search.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-21T06:13:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marc Boucher on 2007-05-21</title>
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        <name>Marc Boucher</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I noticed in your Google vs the rest graphic you have Google competing with itself. Searchmash which you have listed in the UI category is a Google product. In fact Searchmash is a Google testbed whose test results in part influenced how Universal Search was designed.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-05-21T21:56:42Z</published>
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