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    <published>2007-06-12T11:07:38Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:11:38Z</updated>
    <title>Flickr Goes Multi-lingual</title>
    <summary> digg_url = &apos;http://www.digg.com/software/Flickr_Goes_Multi_lingual&apos;; digg_bgcolor = &apos;#ffffff&apos;; digg_skin = &apos;compact&apos;; Today Flickr is launching in seven additional languages, including French, German, Spanish, Japanese and the Hong Kong dialect of Chinese. I spoke with co-founder and head of Flickr, Stewart Butterfield, about the news - and also found out the meaning behind the &quot;loves you&quot; label...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/flickr_lovesyou.png" vspace="5" hspace="5" align="left" />Today <a href="http://www.flickr.com">Flickr</a> is launching in seven additional languages, including French, German, Spanish, Japanese and the Hong Kong dialect of Chinese. I spoke with co-founder and head of Flickr, Stewart Butterfield, about the news - and also found out the meaning behind the "loves you" label currently on Flickr's logo! More on that below.</p>
<p>Flickr now has 525 million photos and Stewart told me that about 55% of Flickr users already reside in non-US countries. They're hoping to increase that with the internationalization being announced today. Currently 45% of Flickr users are from the US. UK is next, followed by Canada, then Germany - and others such as Australia and Spain make up the top 10. Curiously, this is a very similar country breakdown to Read/WriteWeb's user base - where 50% come from the US, around 7% from the UK and so on. It could be that this is the 'early adopter' spread for web technology (in the english-speaking world)!</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/flickr_germany.jpg" /><br /><em>Flickr Germany</em></p>
<p>While on the phone to Stewart, I congratulated him on Flickr's haul of <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/webby_awards_2007.php">5 Webby Awards</a> last week. Stewart was humble about it, but he was pleased - especially at the Best Practices award. He is (justifiably) proud that Flickr has showed the way in many Best Practices, in this era of the Web. Examples include Flickr's use of tagging, wisdom of the crowds, and other trends now familiar amongst 'web 2.0' sites.</p>
<p><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1339/541133595_2bff533280_m.jpg" vspace="5" hspace="5" align="right" />I couldn't resist asking Stewart about the meaning of the "loves you" tagline in the Flickr logo, which recently replaced the "gamma" label. Stewart launched into an amusing story about how that change in logo label came about as the result of a "finger rocket fight" involving him and some of his designers. Stewart lost this fierce battle for finger rocket supremacy, meaning one of the designers got to change the Flickr logo. (I haven't done justice to the story, but the point is the change in logo doesn't have profound origins! In fact Stewart said he found the backlash over their use of the term 'gamma', a few months ago, went a little overboard. So this may've been a reaction to that.)</p>
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>Finger rocket pic: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/schill/541133595/">.schill</a></p>]]>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33474</id>
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    <title>Comment from DF on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>DF</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is this already launched, I login and see no apparent selection menu.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T12:01:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33475</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ken Wong on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ken Wong</name>
        <uri>http://www.gseeker.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>No yet, just "planning".</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T13:36:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33476</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sam on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sam</name>
        <uri>http://54m.ch/blog/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>And they switched to wordpress. <a href="http://blog.flickr.com/en" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.flickr.com/en" rel="nofollow">http://blog.flickr.com/en</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T13:46:09Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33477</id>
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    <title>Comment from Matthieu on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Matthieu</name>
        <uri>http://giik.net/blog</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"It could be that this is the 'early adopter' spread for web technology!"</p>

<p>wrong. it could be the early adopters countries for english speaking websites, that's all :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T16:06:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33478</id>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Touche Matthieu! :-)</p>

<p>It should be launched now. I just added a screenshot.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T19:38:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33479</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tim on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tim</name>
        <uri>http://www.ytbtravelworldwide.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm surprised this hasn't started happening a long time ago. With the Internet's reach being global it would make sense to be multi-lingual.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T20:10:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33480</id>
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    <title>Comment from Aidan Henry on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Aidan Henry</name>
        <uri>http://www.mappingtheweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The concept of translating your product or service into different languages is often overlooked. Though it does take time and resources, a multi-lingual service instantly expands your target market to millions more people. It is much easier to expand your user base with this new crowd than marketing to your current base - a group that may already be saturated and cluttered with competitors.</p>

<p>Cheers,<br />
Aidan</p>

<p>www.MappingTheWeb.com</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T22:18:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I agree Aidan. I forgot to ask Stewart how difficult a process it was for Flickr to go multi-lingual (I got sidetracked by the finger rockets). Anyone else know how easy/hard it is to make your web app multi-lingual? </p>

<p>I guess if you are a blog, like R/WW, then it is very time-consuming. But on a site where the users do most of the content input, like Flickr, it would just be a case of ensuring all the navigation, help pages etc are translated.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-12T22:35:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Damen on 2007-06-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Damen</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Richard:<br />
Its about ensuring that the underlying architecture can manage unicode data. That can be cumbersome if the application is originally developed as non-unicode. You need to be able to store the double byte characters.<br />
"Anyone else know how easy/hard it is to make your web app multi-lingual?" yes it is hard. Especially if you have to outsource the translation work flow.<br />
Trust me...<br />
I developed the internationlalisation (i18n) on <br />
www.newzealand.com/travel</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-13T00:06:50Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33483</id>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2007-06-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Damen, thanks for the clarification.</p>

<p>p.s. nice work on newzealand.com! (from a fellow kiwi)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-13T22:44:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Stefan on 2007-06-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Stefan</name>
        <uri>http://www.eayz.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard, maybe you want to do some coverage of flickr's censorship in Germany (and Singapore, Hong Kong and Korea) and the users' protest: <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/atomtigerzoo/543864623/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://flickr.com/photos/atomtigerzoo/543864623/" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/atomtigerzoo/543864623/</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-14T16:17:50Z</published>
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    <id>tag:72.47.210.69,2007://1.3898-comment:33485</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marcus on 2007-06-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marcus</name>
        <uri>http://www.kredyty.zehej.pl</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Very good post. Thanks that you include this in your page. I would like to ask if I could translate it and put it on my site in section about interesting topics. If that would be possible email me. Really great text. Greetings!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-06-17T11:35:46Z</published>
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