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    <published>2007-07-11T05:19:56Z</published>
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    <title>Battle of the DIY Social Networks: Ning, vibEngine, PeopleAggregator</title>
    <summary> digg_url = &apos;http://www.digg.com/software/Battle_of_the_DIY_Social_Networks_Ning_vibEngine_PeopleAggregator&apos;; digg_bgcolor = &apos;#ffffff&apos;; digg_skin = &apos;compact&apos;; There are a number of DIY social network services on the market, and in this post we&apos;ll take a look at 3 of them - Ning, vibEngine and PeopleAggregator. By DIY, we mean services that allow you to create a custom social network for any...</summary>
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      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>There are a number of DIY social network services on the market, and in this post
we'll take a look at 3 of them - Ning, vibEngine and PeopleAggregator. By DIY, we mean
services that allow you to create a custom social network for any topic. These services
can be either hosted or based on your own server. In many ways, these services represent
the second generation of social networks, after Friendster, MySpace and Facebook. You
could argue virtual worlds are 'next generation' too, but in any case custom social
networks are certainly a step up from proprietary SNS like MySpace and Facebook.</p>

<h2>Ning</h2>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/diy_social_networks/ning_logo.png"
vspace="5" hspace="5" align="left" />Let's start with the most familiar such service, <a
href="http://www.ning.com">Ning</a>. It's the most talked about and was founded by Marc
Andreessen of Netscape fame. Ning <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/ning.php">started out</a> in a flurry of web
2.0 hype in October 2005 as a mashup builder tool, but the current incarnation of Ning is
styled as "Your Own Social Network for Anything". This Monday Ning announced a <a
href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/07/09/big-big-round-of-funding-for-ning/">whopping</a>
investment round of $44 Million. Andreessen <a
href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/07/ning-news-new-i.html">noted in his blog</a> that
Ning will be "substantially expanding our product plans -- we have a long list of
features and product capabilities we plan to add as fast as we possibly can". So the $44M
will allow them to "staff up" and pump out those new features, as well as scale for
expected growth.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Ning <a href="http://blog.pmarca.com/2007/07/why-ning.html">claims to have</a> 71,531
social networks so far. Examples of Ning-based social networks are the <a
href="http://www.smasheville.com/">Smashing Pumpkins SN</a> (with 450 members) and <a
href="http://my.rawkus.com/">Rawkus</a> (a hiphop community with 3,500 members).</p>

<h2>PeopleAggregator</h2>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/diy_social_networks/peepagg_logo.png"
width="240px" vspace="5" hspace="5" align="left" />One of the first custom social network
services was Marc Canter's <a href="http://www.peopleaggregator.com">PeopleAggregator</a>
(disclosure: I used to do some consulting work for PA a year or so ago). Marc Canter has
long held a vision for, and evangelized on his blog and at events, an open social network
service - with an emphasis on <a
href="http://blog.broadbandmechanics.com/2007/07/open-letter-to-marc-andressen-gina-bianchini-and-diego-doval">
open</a>. It's fair to say that Ning has muscled in on this market and gotten more press
than PeopleAggregator over the past year or two. Nevertheless, PeopleAggregator is a solid
offering and has implemented many of the ideas and features that Canter has been talking
about for years - for example the notion of an "identity hub". It is both an open source
Social Network solution that can be downloaded and even forked, while at the same time
being a white label offering and a free hosted service. PeopleAggregator has a mix of free and paid options. See <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/peopleaggregato.php">our post</a> a year ago
for more details.</p>

<p>Many PA social networks are white label, but a couple of public examples are <a href="http://www.gtchannel.com/">GT Channel</a> and <a href="http://connect.econsm.com/">Connect at EconSM</a>.

<h2>vibEngine</h2>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/diy_social_networks/vibecapital_logo.gif"
vspace="5" hspace="5" align="left" />The third service we'll discuss here is vibEngine,
from <a href="http://www.vibecapital.com/">Vibe Capital</a>. Originally based in Perth,
Australia, the founders Clay and Rachel Cook are now firmly planted in Silicon Valley -
in fact right down the road from Mr Techcrunch himself! Perhaps they figured that to
compete with Andreessen and his formidable Silicon Valley network, they needed to be at the center of the action too.</p>

<p>The main difference between Ning and vibEngine is that Ning is a free, automated and
easy-to-use solution, whereas vibEngine styles itself as a "professional tailored
solution". In other words, vibEngine is a white label offering (it's not free) and they
will help set up custom social networks for their customers. PeopleAggregator is a mix
between the two. Another subtle difference with vibEngine is that it specializes in
providing "ranked-advice communities".</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/diy_social_networks/refurber_logo.jpg"
vspace="5" hspace="5" align="right" />I spoke to Clay Cook about vibEngine, because at
first I couldn't see how they are competing with Ning or even PeopleAggregator - as it
doesn't have a free offering. Clay explained that their aim is "to build many wholly
owned subsidiaries" that use the vibEngine technology. They also plan to license
vibEngine to large existing websites and startups. Currently they have 2 wholly owned
subsidiaries - <a href="http://www.minti.com/">Minti</a> (a social network for parents)
and <a href="http://www.refurber.com/">Refurber</a> (ironically, a social network for DIY
folks), both of which were founded by Clay and his wife Rachel. The pair also recently
launched a partner license site at <a
href="http://buildinginlondon.com">buildinginlondon.com</a> (a social network for London
homeowners). There are plans for more such partnerships and licensed sites.</p>

<h2>Conclusion</h2>

<p>What all of these services have in common is that they provide a bundle of tools for
creating a social network - complete with all the 'web 2.0' features you can think of,
such as blogs, photo sharing, video sharing, RSS, tags, personal messaging, email,
friends lists, discussions, privacy options, etc. There is no real 'winner' when
comparing the three services we've mentioned in this post - Ning, vibEngine,
PeopleAggregator. Each has its specific market and each is differentiated well from the
others. It's certainly an interesting market though and, with the social networking craze
showing no signs of slowing, one that will only grow.</p>

<p>What do you think of each of these services? If you have used one (or more) of them,
please leave a comment telling us about your experience. Indeed, how many custom-made social networks are you currently a member of?</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Edwin on 2007-07-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Edwin</name>
        <uri>http://zbdigitaal.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ning gets better and better. The performance is slowed down now and then but new features keep on coming.<br />
I started a small community for Dutch Librarians/infoworkers and 220 people joined in two months, which is great.</p>

<p>Before that we had to rely on a national mailinglist. The video/photo/forum-thing really adds something.</p>

<p>Lovin' it.</p>

<p><a href="http://bibliotheek20.ning.com" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://bibliotheek20.ning.com" rel="nofollow">http://bibliotheek20.ning.com</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-11T06:21:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from aaron on 2007-07-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>aaron</name>
        <uri>http://charisma18.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Lot of battles lately.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-11T06:50:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Darren Stuart on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Darren Stuart</name>
        <uri>http://darrenstuart.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>you missed the open coffee network using ning too <a href="http://opencoffee.ning.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://opencoffee.ning.com/" rel="nofollow">http://opencoffee.ning.com/</a></a></p>

<p>I actually think all of these are pretty good services but you forgot to mention <a href="http://kickapps.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://kickapps.com/" rel="nofollow">http://kickapps.com/</a></a> for video.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-11T09:03:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Michael on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael</name>
        <uri>http://greenteaicecream.co.uk</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What I do like about Ning is its immediacy and comprehensive set of tools.  The adverts are annoying but, then, they've got to pay the bills...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-11T12:10:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marco on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marco</name>
        <uri>http://blog.ekaabo.de</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Well, this is only one point of view.<br />
Here in Germany we belive in an other kind of "Mother-of-all-networks"</p>

<p>vertical vs horizontal is the battle of the next years. and no vertical business is happy with a standard solution of an networking community.</p>

<p>so take a look at www.communipedia.de in the next few month :-)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-11T13:32:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Gina on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Gina</name>
        <uri>http://www.nexo.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.nexo.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Have you looked at www.nexo.com - another interesting DIY social network?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-11T21:39:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Terri Hilton on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Terri Hilton</name>
        <uri>http://www.zooped.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.zooped.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>I think <a href="http://www.zooped.com" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.zooped.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zooped.com</a></a> will do better than them all</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-11T23:49:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tim Fortescue on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tim Fortescue</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I tried zooped recently Terri and thought it was really bad.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-12T01:54:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Lynda Radosevich on 2007-07-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Lynda Radosevich</name>
        <uri>http://info.visiblepath.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://info.visiblepath.com/blog">
        <![CDATA[<p>DIY social networks may not be the most effective approach for all organizations, but the underlying idea is that different needs will be filled by different social networks rather than a one-size fits all solution. For instance, solutions like www.visiblepath.com focus on helping professionals search their real-life connections for meaningful introductions to people they'd like to reach. It meets a different need than a DIY community or destination site.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-12T03:11:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Clay Cook on 2007-07-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Clay Cook</name>
        <uri>http://www.claycook.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard</p>

<p>Thanks for covering Vibe Capital and the vibEngine, it's much appreciated.</p>

<p>I will be back later with more comments, however just a quick comment, Matthew Macfarlane is our third Co-Founder and he does a tremendous amount of work. I see your post is all Clay & Rachel... I can assure you it's not ;)</p>

<p>Cheers<br />
Clay</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-12T19:10:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ben Elowitz on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben Elowitz</name>
        <uri>http://www.wetpaint.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's great to see so many services making it so easy for people to connect.  There are so many great options now for people to rendez-vous with others that share there interests -- and, hopefully more and more, building real community online.  </p>

<p>--Ben</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-14T04:03:54Z</published>
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