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    <published>2007-07-25T17:05:46Z</published>
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    <title>Cloning Web 2.0: A Look at Copycat Applications</title>
    <summary> digg_url = &apos;http://www.digg.com/tech_news/Cloning_Web_2_0_A_Look_at_Copycat_Applications&apos;; digg_bgcolor = &apos;#ffffff&apos;; digg_skin = &apos;compact&apos;; I know I recently railed against copycat sites -- I assure you that the irony of this post isn&apos;t lost on me. But as they say, &quot;imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.&quot; As I said in my post 3 weeks ago, &quot;if you do...</summary>
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      <name>Josh Catone</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><font style="float: right"><script type="text/javascript">
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/copy-machine.jpg" align="left" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="150" height="189" />I know I recently <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/copycat_sites_blogforayear_pixelotto.php">railed against copycat sites</a> -- I assure you that the irony of this post isn't lost on me.  But as they say, "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery."  As I said in my post 3 weeks ago, "if you do feel the need to borrow an idea, you should definitely make changes and try to innovate and push the concept in new directions."  That's what Kevin Rose and his team did with <a href="http://www.pownce.com/">Pownce</a>, which seems likely inspired by Twitter.  Pownce has pushed the idea in new and exciting directions, however, and added to the concept in positive ways for users (read <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/pownce_send_stuff_to_friends.php">our review</a>).  Some copycat sites, on the other hand, <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2007/05/09/samwers-bankrolled-facebook-clone-now-twitter-clone/">are more shameless</a> in their theft.</p>

<p>The services below have not only spawned copycats, but software projects designed to make copying them easier, which may be proof that there is really something to their idea.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Twitter &raquo; Folkster</h2>

<p><a href="http://www.twitter.com/">Twitter</a>, the micro-blogging app from Evan Williams, Biz Stone, and Jack Dorsey, has been one of the most buzz-worthy web apps of the past year.  After a demo at SXSW in March, Twitter exploded in popularity to become a top 1000 site (according to Alexa).  So it's no wonder people want to copy it.  <a href="http://www.folkstr.com/">Folkstr</a> is a soon-to-launch micro-blogging platform from development house Combtail.  Folkstr mimics Twitter in appearance, though it seems to lack SMS features.</p>

<h2>Digg &raquo; Pligg</h2>

<p>We recently pegged <a href="http://www.digg.com/">Digg</a> as a major <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_webs_top_takeover_targets.php">acquisition target</a>.  Digg is the web's top social news web site, and has spawned an incredible number of niche copycat sites.  Many of them run or were initially launched using the open source Digg-clone <a href="http://www.pligg.com/">Pligg</a>.  Pligg is a faithful reproduction of Digg (though it hasn't caught up in terms of threaded comments), and even adds some features, such as tagging and the ability to automatically share links on other popular social news and bookmarking sites.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/pligg-site.jpg" width="530" height="298" /></p>

<h2>del.icio.us &raquo; Scuttle</h2>

<p>Speaking of bookmarking... many have tried but no one has yet succeeded in dethroning the king social bookmarking websites: Yahoo!'s <a href="http://del.icio.us/">del.icio.us</a>.  If you think you're up to it, the open source <a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/scuttle/">Scuttle</a> is a good way to start.  Unfortunately, Scuttle's main web site is down right now, and a new version hasn't been released in over a year.</p>  

<h2>YouTube &raquo; AlstraSoft Video Share</h2>

<p><a href="http://youtube.com/">YouTube</a> was one of the first big success stories of web 2.0, cashing in for over $1.65 billion last fall when it was acquired by Google.  AlstraSoft's <a href="http://www.alstrasoft.com/videoshare.htm">Video Share Enterprise</a> is a PHP/MySQL script that clones YouTube.  Video Share duplicates most of YouTube's features pretty well, and powers a number of small-to-medium sized sites, such as the paintball video sharing web site <a href="http://xhaled.com/">Xhaled</a>.  Also check out another YouTube clone script <a href="http://www.vshare.in/">vShare</a>.  It seems unlikely that either of these scripts could scale out of the box to support anywhere near the traffic of YouTube, though.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/videoshare-site.jpg" width="530" height="447" /></p>

<h2>Yahoo! Answers &raquo; Askeet</h2>

<p><a href="http://answers.yahoo.com/">Yahoo! Answers</a> has been one of Yahoo!'s greatest success stories.  It was not the first question and answer site, but has grown into the largest, and is one of Yahoo!'s largest social networking sites.  The team behind the Symfony PHP framework decided to clone Yahoo! Answers as a demo application to show off their framework.  They came up with <a href="http://www.askeet.com/">askeet!</a>, a no frills Answers clone that uses Digg-style voting to determine the most interesting questions and thumbs up/down voting to determine the best answers.  Not only is askeet!'s source code available under the MIT license, the developers also put out a <a href="http://www.symfony-project.com/askeet">24-part tutorial series</a> detailing exactly how it was built.</p>

<h2> MySpace &raquo; PHPFox </h2>

<p>Facebook might <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/is_facebook_worth_the_hype.php">get all the hype</a>, but <a href="http://www.myspace.com/">MySpace</a> is still by far the largest social network.  As such, it is also the most often copied.  One of the most popular and well-developed MySpace clone scripts out there is <a href="http://www.phpfox.com/">phpFoX</a>.  phpFoX is behind some fairly large niche MySpace clones, like the punk-rock centric <a href="http://www.punx.org/">Punx</a>.  The script supports all the features MySpacers love, such as groups, polls, forums, blogs, messaging, and profiles replete with ugly backgrounds and annoying auto-playing music.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/phpfox-site.jpg" width="530" height="395" /></p>

<h2>Netvibes, Pageflakes &raquo; AlstraSoft StartPage</h2>

<p>Just a few days ago Richard MacManus <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/pageflakes_netvibes_take_on_social_networks.php">wrote about</a> how AJAX start pages like <a href="http://www.pageflakes.com/">PageFlakes</a> and <a href="http://www.netvibes.com/">Netvibes</a> are aiming to take on social networks.  The barrier for entry in getting into this hot area has never been lower than now thanks to Alstrasoft's <a href="http://www.alstrasoft.com/ajax-desktop-startpage-enterprise.htm">AJAX DeskTop StartPage Enterprise</a>, a PHP and MySQL based AJAX start page script that mimics the sites I just mentioned.  I was actually pleasantly surprised by this product.  The demo at <a href="http://www.mevou.com/">MeVou.com</a> is impressive, and offers a number of built in widgets and the ability to add custom RSS feeds from any source.</p>

<h2>Wikipedia &raquo; MediaWiki</h2>

<p>Unlike any other of the products in this round up, <a href="http://www.mediawiki.org/">MediaWiki</a> isn't really a copycat.  It's the actual open source software that powers <a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/">Wikipedia</a>.  MediaWikia can, of course, be used for other applications than simply creating a clone of Wikipedia -- and it often is.   As one of the most powerful and well-developed wiki applications on the market, MediaWiki is deployed the web over by people wishing to create wikis for a number of reasons.</p>

<h2>Conclusion</h2>

<p>While I'm still not too keen on straight clones of other services, what the above scripts and applications prove is that the cost of entry for web 2.0 sites is extremely low.  Development of a site like YouTube might have cost in the tens of thousands a couple of years ago, but now a clone script can be had for $10.  Many of these clone applications are free or open source.  Granted these scripts might not scale very well, and they might not be as securely coded as something you have custom made, but the point is that, as <A href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/06/by_the_numbers_.html">Guy Kawasaki says</a>, "things are a whole lot cheaper and easier these days."</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Mike on 2007-07-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mike</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here's another Digg-like site: <a href="http://www.convote.com" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.convote.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.convote.com</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-25T22:42:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alstrasoft on 2007-07-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alstrasoft</name>
        <uri>http://internet-marketing-tools.org/alstrasoft/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Before ever purchasing any "clone" style script, do your due diligence and thoroughly research the company behind them.</p>

<p>Often copyright theft may be an issue as some software companies have been known to rip off beta versions of their competition and re-brand them as their own.</p>

<p>Some companies are notorious for leaving customers in the dark when it's time to provide tech support, for example:<br />
<a href="http://internet-marketing-tools.org/alstrasoft/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://internet-marketing-tools.org/alstrasoft/" rel="nofollow">http://internet-marketing-tools.org/alstrasoft/</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-25T23:12:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from aaron on 2007-07-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>aaron</name>
        <uri>http://charisma18.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<blockquote>
Development of a site like YouTube might have cost in the tens of thousands a couple of years ago...
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Tens of thousands?  You're off by a factor of ten.  And while the apps in your post are great for entry use, you aren't accounting for any level of scale or sophisticated use.  YouTube in it's current form would still take vast amounts of time and money to recreate.  The video uploading / transcoding process alone is a huge effort (YouTube is not using ffmpeg.)

<p>All that aside, this is a great post.  These are great examples of apps that can help entrepreneurs race to prototype, if not scale to the level of category killer.  We kicked around using Pligg to build Truemors for Guy.</p>

<p>Amusing timing on this one by the way.  TechCrunch's new author promised a part 2 post that would cover the topic you just nailed.  I'm guessing you made that a bit more difficult for him.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-26T03:11:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Darren on 2007-07-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Darren</name>
        <uri>http://darrenstuart.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As someone that has cloned some apps and written about it I can say you missed something in this. </p>

<p>First you need to look at the history of web apps. </p>

<p>Forums, Blogs, Search Engines, Photo sharing are all apps. </p>

<p>Digg is an app so why is it wrong to copy this cool new method for sharing news links etc How is this different to any of the above examples. </p>

<p>When you break Digg down its a site where people vote for articles and that ain't new. What was new was the way they presented it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-26T07:49:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Paul Lomax on 2007-07-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Paul Lomax</name>
        <uri>http://twopointoh.co.uk</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"The team behind the Symfony PHP framework decided to clone Yahoo! Answers "</p>

<p>Actually, Yahoo answers didn't launch until 13th December 2005  but the Askeet tutorial started on 1st December 2005... </p>

<p>A co-incidence, not a clone. Even more of a co-incidence is the fact that Yahoo decided to use the Symfony Framework to build the new Yahoo Bookmarks.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-26T14:11:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mircea on 2007-07-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mircea</name>
        <uri>http://www.mirceagoia.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Add these for other Youtube clones:<br />
- www.clip-share.com<br />
- www.agriya.com/youtube-clone-metacafe-clone-myspace-clone<br />
- <a href="http://cihilt.com/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cihilt.com/" rel="nofollow">http://cihilt.com/</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-27T23:49:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Roz Edwards on 2007-08-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Roz Edwards</name>
        <uri>http://www.rozedwards.co.uk</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Re: Twitter and Folkstr</p>

<p>You have made a very generalised statement, in my opinion, and failed to note that whilst Twitter is for everyone in the whole world to visit and interact with, Folkstr is an application that I, a small web designer, can download to put on my own or a clients site and network / keep in touch with my own contacts.</p>

<p>I think there is a difference.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-01T20:15:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jigga on 2007-08-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jigga</name>
        <uri>http://naijalive.net/nigerianblogs</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>MySpace >> <a href="http://ablespace.abk-soft.com/" rel="nofollow">AbleSpace</a> </p>

<p>This one looks even better than PHP Fox (and more expensive too! LOL)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-03T15:00:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Eran Hammer-Lahav on 2007-08-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Eran Hammer-Lahav</name>
        <uri>http://hueniverse.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Folkster has very little to do with Twitter. It is a small scale social network with support for short messages. The effort required to add SMS, IM, or any other non-web access is beyond the capacity of almost anyone installing it. But the idea is nice and it shows there is a growing market for micro-blogging functionality.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-04T17:14:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Petro Melvoski on 2007-08-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Petro Melvoski</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Nice post.. I was impressed by the Alstrasoft ajax startpage clone of netvibes that was exactly what I have been looking for on my website. Also are there any clones of facebook.com on the market?</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-17T14:45:02Z</published>
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