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    <published>2007-07-13T08:24:16Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:11:50Z</updated>
    <title>The State of Citizen Journalism: Part 1, Newsvine</title>
    <summary>In the young but growing world of user-generated news, sites like digg and slashdot dominate in the tech sphere. In the political arena, it is mostly editorial-driven sites that do well - such as DrudgeReport, HuffingtonPost and RawStory. Those sites get a lot of attention, but there are also a lot of so-called &quot;Citizen Journalism&quot;...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/newsvine/newsvine_logo.jpg" align="left"
hspace="5" vspace="5" />In the young but growing world of user-generated news, sites like
digg and slashdot dominate in the tech sphere. In the political arena, it is mostly
editorial-driven sites that do well - such as DrudgeReport, HuffingtonPost and RawStory.
Those sites get a lot of attention, but there are also a lot of so-called "Citizen
Journalism" sites out there trying very hard to break through to the mainstream. We're
going to run a series here on Read/WriteWeb exploring some of those sites. In this first
post we'll provide a brief intro to Citizen Journalism (but with a product focus, not
theory), and profile a leading practitioner: Newsvine.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Citizen Journalism: What is it and who's doing it?</h2>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/newsvine/ohmynews_pic.jpg" align="right"
hspace="5" vspace="5" />Citizen Journalism (henceforth CJ) is a classic example of the
<em>read/write web</em> in action. In a product sense, it is a news publication built
using the voices and recommendations of ordinary citizens, or 'users' in Web-speak. The readers are the
writers and editors, unlike traditional journalism which is written/edited by the 'few' (professional
journalists) for the 'many' (consumers). The biggest success story in CJ so far has been
<a href="http://english.ohmynews.com/">OhMyNews</a>, out of South Korea.</p>
<p>As yet there's been no successful Western equivalent to OhMyNews, although there have
been a lot of attempts at it. Some have crashed and burned, such as the recently closed
<a
href="http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2055193.ece">
Backfence</a>. But many other entrepreneurs are actively pursuing the idea - e.g.
Australian-based <a href="http://www.perthnorg.com.au/">PerthNorg</a>, <a
href="http://www.buffalorising.com/">Buffalo Rising</a> and <a
href="http://zero.newassignment.net/">Assignment Zero</a> - to name but a few. And there
have been controversial attempts too, such as <a
href="http://www.associatedcontent.com/">Associated Content</a> - recently <a
href="http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-04-24-n59.html">in the news themselves</a> due
to claims they're gaming Google. But no single CJ site has hit it big in mainstream news,
yet, in the english speaking world.</p>

<p>Current mainstream news organizations are also experimenting with user-generated news.
CNN has <a href="http://www.cnn.com/exchange/">I-Report</a> and Yahoo and Reuters have <a
href="http://news.yahoo.com/you-witness-news">You Witness</a> (see also <a
href="http://www.reuters.com/youwitness">http://www.reuters.com/youwitness</a>). We'll
profile these in a later post.</p>

<h2>Newsvine</h2>

<p><a href="http://www.newsvine.com">Newsvine</a> is a good example of a startup CJ site
aiming to be a mainstream news destination. Along with most of the other current CJ
sites, Newsvine uses many of the tenets of 'web 2.0' in its design - such as
user-generated content, reputation, voting, comments, friends lists, tags, and more. It
allows users to 'seed' stories, by adding a link and short description. Or users can
write a full article. Newsvine is probably more advanced in its design than other CJ
sites, often trying new things and design techniques - e.g. the Newsvis, a color-coded
visual representation of a user's impact on the site.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/newsvine/newsvine1.jpg" /></p>

<p>The site opened as a private beta in December 2005 and was officially launched on
March 1, 2006. For a full feature run-down, see Read/WriteWeb's <a
href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/social_news_faceoff.php">Social News
Faceoff</a> last October - which has a chart of features for Newsvine and three other
sites (digg, reddit, netscape). As Alex Iskold noted in that post, Newsvine has an
outstanding user interface - it illustrates that a lot of features and a lot of
information can be presented in a simple and digestible way.</p>

<p>Let's focus now on current stats and trends....</p>

<h2>Stats and Top Topics</h2>

<p>According to founder Mike Davidson, who I contacted today, Newsvine currently gets
about 1.2 million unique visitors per month and it has grown at an average rate of 46%
per quarter. Newsvine community members view an average of 21 pages per day and spend an
average of 143 minutes per month on the site. The site gets about 80,000 comments a month
and 250,000 votes a month.</p>

<p>These stats seem to be borne out in the following <a
href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/newsvine.com?metric=uv">Compete graph</a> showing
Newsvine's "velocity", which basically means the growth in user engagement:</p>

<p><img
src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/newsvine/newsvine.com_velocity.gif" /></p>

<p>The top topics in Newsvine are Politics and Technology, echoing the popular topics in
the blogosphere. Other topics on Newsvine include World News, U.S. News, Local News, and
Entertainment.</p>

<h2>Top Trends</h2>

<p>I asked Mike what are the big trends he's noticed in citizen journalism - i.e. what
has Newsvine learned so far, after 15 or so months of operation? Mike noted 3 main
trends:</p>

<p>1. Explicit actions like "votes" are not a sufficient enough indicator of what's
important and/or good on a news site. Mike said they also look at things like
vote-to-comment ratio, average number of seconds spent reading a article, user
reputation, and more.</p>

<p>2. Communities, by definition, do not scale - and Mike says "nor should they". They're
looking for "truly intimate and meaningful interactions" and Mike thinks this can't
happen in large networks.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/newsvine/vineacity.png" align="right"
hspace="5" vspace="5" />3. Reputation building is the big separator in quality news
communities. Mike says that "it is much more useful to sacrifice quantity [of comments]
for quality and encourage community members to really take ownership of their words." To
this end, Newsvine has a reputation system called "Vineacity", which serves as a visual
indicator of what sort of contributor any given community member is.</p>

<h2>Who is contributing?</h2>

<p>I was also curious about the type of person who contributes content to Newsvine. Mike
told me that the profile of a contributor "varies wildly" - some of the best writers
include a college student from Ohio State, a political writer of Korean descent from
Denmark, and "a 70 year old gentleman who ended up getting his name on the ballot for
U.S. Congress last year and documenting the whole thing on Newsvine."</p>

<p>So what, if anything, do Newsvine's contributers have in common? Mike says that they
all share "a desire not to soapbox but to play a legitimate role in the news ecosystem."
In other words, they take an active interest in the news.</p>

<h2>Tests, Conclusion</h2>

<p>Newsvine appears to be ramping up nicely and from my own browsing round the site,
there was a reasonable amount of seeding, writing, voting and commenting going on. In the
Politics section, one of the top stories as of writing is <a
href="http://killfile.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/11/831055-president-bush-makes-a-little-girl-cry">
President Bush Makes A Little Girl Cry</a>, which had 56 votes and 125 comments when I
checked (does the title reflect a liberal bias on the site?).</p>

<p>The topic I'm most familiar with, Tech, didn't have as many comments or votes - the
most comments on a story was 17, and 23 votes was the top. However the
content in the Tech section seemed up-to-date and relevant, mostly filled with AP wire
stories. Personally I'd still choose Techmeme or Topix over Newsvine Tech, but overall
not a bad selection of stories. If you're looking for a tech community to join and
actively participate in, other than Read/WriteWeb of course, then Newsvine Tech could be
your cup of tea.</p>

<p>Next up in this series, we explore localized Citizen Journalism sites.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Andy on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andy</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Newsvine has one huge annoyance for me. Instead of something simple like uk.newsvine.com or newsvine.co.uk, I have to type unitedkingdom.newsvine.com -- catchy or what? Consequently, the site's about as busy as Stoke-on-Trent on a wet Wednesday evening. I wish there were a credible user-generated news site that didn't focus entirely on the USA...</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T11:16:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Maksim on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maksim</name>
        <uri>http://www.journal.lv</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for small analisys, waiting for some other cases.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T11:16:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Amrit Hallan - Content Blog on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Amrit Hallan - Content Blog</name>
        <uri>http://www.contentblog.net</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard.</p>

<p>Citizen journalism is very healthy because of its participative nature, and with almost all news publications and TV channels reporting biased news all the time, you can get the real sense of the world from citizen journalists. This is definitely a good trend, and if handled properly, it is going to grow.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T13:40:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from heri on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>heri</name>
        <uri>http://montrealtechwatch.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hey - nice article about newsvine. i guess you will make an article about nowpublic?</p>

<p>they are a truly cj startup (no newswire from AP/AFP/Reuters, everything is written by users)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T16:35:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Megan Cole on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Megan Cole</name>
        <uri>http://megancole.org</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Heri beat me to it!<br />
I can't believe I am feeling the need to tell YOU, of all guru tech writers out there, but, I wouldn't be a go-canada-staunch-support-of-local-greatness if I didn't.... would love to see your spin on <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/" rel="nofollow">NowPublic</a>, Vancouver-based CJ site, <a href="http://www.nowpublic.com/citizen_journalism_to_the_rescue_ap_buys_citizen_journalists_photos" rel="nofollow">AP associate</a>, Time's <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1633488_1633530_1633569,00.html" rel="nofollow">50 Best Websites</a> of 2007, and on and on.... <br />
cheers.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T17:10:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, I guess I better write about NowPublic huh ;-)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-13T19:35:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jeff on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeff</name>
        <uri>http://www.newscloud.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.newscloud.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>And NewsCloud.com is an open source platform available to anyone wishing to launch a grassroots media site. It's an exciting time of change ...</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-13T22:22:19Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mike B on 2007-07-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mike B</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andy: I feel your pain, so I set up the uk-news group on Newsvine. I was annoyed about the tagging, so uk-news (as opposed to us-news) has become the dominant tag used now by many users, and most, if not all UK related news goes through the group now. Check it out if you have the time and wish to return to Newsvine.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-14T02:47:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jitendra on 2007-07-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jitendra</name>
        <uri>http://sezwho.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am huge fan of newsvine and citizen journalism...</p>

<p>I thing the growing influence of blogs is an example of the power of citizen journalism.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-14T08:12:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Aine on 2007-07-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Aine</name>
        <uri>http://aine.newsvine.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://aine.newsvine.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>Pretty much every social news site (or any other social networking site) gets the same complaint about it being "too US-centric", and the solution to that is NOT to leave the site but to encourage other non-US users to join the site and make it less US-centric. </p>

<p>If people think that isn't going to work, take a long hard look at what's happened to Orkut... it used to be US-centric, but it's not anymore. :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-14T08:19:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Preeti on 2007-07-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Preeti</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I like Digg a lot although there can be too much focus on popular things in liew of detailed analysis...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2007-07-14T09:18:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MorganLighter on 2007-07-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>MorganLighter</name>
        <uri>http://freetraffictip.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Richard - As you mentioned in your article- "Newsvine currently gets about 1.2 million unique visitors per month and it has grown at an average rate of 46% per quarter. Newsvine community members view an average of 21 pages per day and spend an average of 143 minutes per month on the site. The site gets about 80,000 comments a month and 250,000 votes a month". Don't we wish we all had that much traffic. Regardless of what anyone else says - Good job!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-15T19:33:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Greg J. Smith on 2007-07-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Greg J. Smith</name>
        <uri>http://www.serialconsign.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Blog cultures is great. Especially when it comes to editorial. We shouldn't confuse it for anything even remotely resembling journalism though...</p>

<p>The history of indymedia is worth looking in to for anyone curious of citizen journalism as activism.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-16T01:39:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mark Schneider on 2007-07-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mark Schneider</name>
        <uri>http://www.nowpublic.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.nowpublic.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Richard -  thanks for your indication that you'll check out NowPublic, as Megan and Heri suggested. </p>

<p>I'm pretty sure if you do you'll see why Time Magazine raved about NowPublic <a href="http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1633488_1633530_1633569,00.html" rel="nofollow">in   fairly unambiguous terms: </a> </p>

<p>"...Nowhere are the merits of citizen journalism more apparent than at NowPublic."</p>

<p>Mark Schneider<br />
Actual News Guy<br />
NowPublic.com</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-16T06:36:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Raat on 2007-07-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Raat</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Good summary. As some commenters have said, if one scratches below the surface, you can find non-US centric stuff. Clearly, with the vast majority of subscribers being US-based, it is inevitable that the FP will reflect that. The net is widening.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-17T00:07:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Viki on 2007-07-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Viki</name>
        <uri>http://vikibabbles.newsvine.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Newsvine is growing by leaps and bounds.  It's less like a baby and more like a puppy--one day it's cute and naive, and the next it's taking a chunk out of your leg.  </p>

<p>There are a lot of exciting things going on, much pushing for more Citizen Journalism (which inspired me to attempt to get a press pass for Lollapalooza, which I received, and will be reporting in depth on Newsvine), and a tremendous amount of support within the community to help foster new and less experienced writers.</p>

<p>We don't just talk about the news, but we also talk about how to report it, how Newsvine can best be used to report and discuss the news, and what the community vision is for the site.</p>

<p>Thanks for taking a look at Newsvine!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-17T00:27:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Investorguru on 2007-07-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Investorguru</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Take another look at Newsvine, past their PR hype and the comments left by users. Alexa says it loads slower than 80% of other sites. I've waited almost a full minute to click from the front page to an article, more than once. Newsvine is overloaded with useless stuff like "what's your favorite band", plus a very high amount flamefests, which staffers join in with, too. The concept showed promise, but the management just isn't there, and the investment numbers show it: NowPublic earns $10.6 million, Newsvine gets $1.5 million. I tag this one as a start-up venture that owners hoped to hype, sell for a profit to them, and then move on to the next build-hype-sell cycle with something else.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-07-31T14:22:21Z</published>
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