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    <published>2007-08-30T22:13:12Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:07:56Z</updated>
    <title>Exclusive: First Look at Clever Tools Groupware Suite</title>
    <summary> digg_url = &apos;http://digg.com/tech_news/Exclusive_First_Look_at_Clever_Tools_Groupware_Suite&apos;; digg_bgcolor = &apos;#ffffff&apos;; digg_skin = &apos;compact&apos;; Clever Tools is a new online project management and extranet application suite that is aiming for a Q1 2008 launch (and a beta of at least a few of the apps in the suite in October of this year). The full Clever Tools suite will...</summary>
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      <name>Josh Catone</name>
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<script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clevertools-logo.jpg" align="left" hspace="5" vspace="5" width="195" height="60" /><a href="http://www.clevertools.com/">Clever Tools</a> is a new online project management and extranet application suite that is aiming for a Q1 2008 launch (and a beta of at least a few of the apps in the suite in October of this year).  The full Clever Tools suite will include a project management application (that includes message boards, task management, and file sharing), an invoicing app, timesheets, a CRM application, bug tracking, and a whiteboard.</p>

<p>For now, the Clever Tools team has only completed significant work on the project management tool, which I am told is mostly done, and the timesheet tool.  Clever Tools founder Jason Jennings told me that he is aiming to have the PM and timesheet tools in "beta condition" by October.  I was given a demo of those two tools and a sneak peak at some of the things on the docket for the suite yesterday.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Project Management</h2>

<p>The project management application is in the most complete state and consists of three main parts: discussions, files, and tasks/milestones.  Clever Tools won't be able to avoid comparisons with <a href="http://www.basecamphq.com/">Basecamp</a>, which as I said in my <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/10_must_have_online_office_apps.php">10 Must Have Online Office Apps</a> post is the "top dog" among hosted groupware tools.  It's probably important to note that I looked at Clever Tools through mostly Basecamp colored glasses (as it is the tool I use most).</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clevertools-dashboard.jpg" width="472" height="134" /></p>

<p>Unlike its competitors, which generally use a blog-style call and response layout for discussions -- most likely in emulation of Basecamp, Clever Tools uses a more traditional inline, flat forum style for laying out messages and posts.  As someone who is a big fan of traditional forums (I've been a moderator on a 3 million post vBulletin forum for a few years and have grown very comfortable with that style), the layout employed by Clever Tools is a welcome change.</p>

<p>File management is one of Clever Tools' strongest points.  Files can be uploaded 20 at a time from the upload page (5 at a time from any other page).  Once files are uploaded, users are prompted to categorize and describe them before they're added to the files section.  Files can also be attached to milestones and tasks.  All files, no matter where they were uploaded, or where they are attached, will appear on the project's file management page.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clevertools-goals.jpg" width="530" height="474" /></p>

<p>Tasks in Clever Tools are smaller to-do items, while Milestones are larger undertakings.  Tasks can be set as a subset of specific Milestones, such that all Tasks must be complete before the Milestone can be marked as done.  Tasks and Milestones are given a name, description, due date, tags, category, and can be assigned to a single person or group of people.  All of a user's Tasks are added to their calendar with visual indicators of which are most urgently due.</p>

<h2>Timesheet</h2>

<p>The timesheet application, while not quite fully functional, is completely mocked up, so I was able to get a feel for what Clever Tools has planned in this area.  With the timesheet app, users can track time in two ways: by manually entering timesheets into the system, or by using a real-time clock that can keep track of time users spend on projects.  Each project can be given a budget that is mapped to an hourly rate so that users can make sure they aren't going over budget (or will be alerted when they are in danger of overrunning monetary constraints).</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clevertools-timesheet.jpg" width="530" height="339" /></p>

<p>One of the big selling points of Clever Tools is the integration of the apps, which will all play well with each other.  "To further illustrate the integration of the different tools, Clever Tools will pull tasks assigned to a user in the project manager tool to allow them to track time against that task," Jennings told me. The timesheet app will also tie into the invoicing tool, allowing users to generate an invoice based on the time tracked in the timesheet tool, and it will integrate with PayPal and 2Checkout.</p>

<h2>The Rest</h2>

<p>Clever Tools also has big plans for their leads management app, which Jennings tells me has morphed into more of a CRM tool. The tool will, however, still do some lead management.  For example, one thing it will do is provide an AJAX widget that affiliates can embed on websites that will collect user information and send it directly to the CRM tool along with where the user's information was captured.  "With Clever Tool‚Äôs CRM, you can create meetings complete with Google maps integration, add tasks, manage to-dos, attach documents, convert into an active project, export Outlook VCF cards, add notes, and upload a picture for every contact," said Jennings, rattling off a list of features to me.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clevertools-timetrack.jpg" width="530" height="347" /></p>

<p>Jennings and the Clever Tools team have plans for an invoicing app (alluded to above in the hooks with the timesheet app), a bug tracker, and a group whiteboard.  And though there was little information available on these applications, Jennings told me it is likely that Clever Tools will launch winter 2008 without the whiteboard app, which will be developed last.</p>

<h2>Conclusion</h2>

<p>So far, Clever Tools is pretty bare.  It is only in a very early stage of development, but what I saw was promising.  It is certainly rough around the edges and has a ways to go, but they do things differently enough from Basecamp, GoPlan, ActiveCollab, and the rest that I think there is a legitimate chance for Clever Tools to make a splash in the market and find its own niche.</p>

<p>There are some things that Clever Tools gets very right from the start, too.  For example, 37Signals is only just starting to unify their applications under a <a href="http://www.37signals.com/openbar">single sign on</a>.  Clever Tools, on the other hand, will bake that in from the beginning, so that anyone who has projects at multiple companies (which freelancers often do), will only have to sign in once.  Clever Tools will also support OpenID.  Jennings tells me that he also plans a developer API for Clever Tools, that would let a outside companies like Blinksale or Freshbooks create tie-in apps so that people could use a third party service instead of the built-in Clever Tools applications if they so desired.</p>

<p>It certainly remains to be seen whether Clever Tools will tear me -- or anyone else -- away from Basecamp.  What I saw so far is a promising start, however.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Pavel on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Pavel</name>
        <uri>http://www.webgation.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This looks really useful. I wonder when the beta will come out, I'll try it right away.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-30T22:31:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jeremy on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeremy</name>
        <uri>http://launchmypromo.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Looks like every other app thats already out there.<br />
I am getting tired of seeing new start ups every day!</p>

<p>They aren't any different then the other.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-30T23:24:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nate on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nate</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As far as I know Basecamp can do multiple projects out of the box, so that doesn't seem like a fair comparison at the end there.  37signals single sign on moves are more towards unifying apps like Highrise and Backpack, which may not have anything to do with your project planning needs.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-30T23:39:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Josh Catone on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh Catone</name>
        <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Nate: It does multiple projects, but if you're part of projects run by different companies you have to log in multiple places.</p>

<p>For example, I have separate logins for the Basecamp we use here are Read/WriteWeb and for one another group of people are using for a Ruby on Rails software project I'm part of -- because the user credentials are handled per company, not per user.  With Clever Tools I am told login credentials will be handled at the user level, so once I have my username, I can use it for any project I am invited to participate in from any company.  Users will be able to log in with the same information from a single spot to all of their projects.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-30T23:53:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ben on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben</name>
        <uri>http://focus27.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This looks really nice, but 2008 seems too far away. I hope the beta comes out soon.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T00:05:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nate on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nate</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ahh, gotcha.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T01:31:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jason on 2007-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jason</name>
        <uri>http://www.CleverTools.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As a huge fan and reader of Read/Write Web, I am honored to have our startup written about here. Thanks a lot for the great write-up Josh! </p>

<p>A few things I would also like to add. One of the great features of Clever Tools, is you only pick and use the tools you need. Nothing is worse than a full fledge suite of tools where you are forced to use, and pay, for every tool. Depending on which tools you have activated, they work together.</p>

<p>We will be launching into our beta starting October first. We have a notification sign up on our home page. We are offering everyone who signs up to be notified of the beta or notified when we launch, a 10% coupon good for the life of your account, regardless of whether or not use help us beta test. Beta testers will receive other benefits as well. One of those benefits is helping us shape the system. We are always looking for good user feedback and ideas to make this service better. One example is the addition to goals into the time tracking tool. Now users or project mangers can set goals and see if they are being reached by the time being track against specific tasks.</p>

<p>While some say this is too similar to other apps, I might disagree a tad. Are there similar services and tools? Yes. Clever Tools was originally developed to fit a need I saw for myself, and my team. I run a consulting company who works with virtual teams all over the world and clients from all over the United States. So, we were using 5 different web tools to manage projects and business processes. My team and I were getting frustrated with all the interfaces and systems we had to learn, re-entering data, and all the different urls and passwords to remember. I was getting tired with so many different bills, fragmentation of data, and other issues. Not to mention my clients getting frustrated having to go all over the place to communicate, pay bills, track bugs, ect. I was not able to find a solution that did all of those things. So, I decided to build my own solution and fix some of the problems I saw in other applications which I disliked (like having multiple logins for the same service when contracting under different companies).</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T02:37:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bart Stevens on 2007-08-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bart Stevens</name>
        <uri>http://www.tenforce.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dear All,</p>

<p>First of all, Jason congrats to you and your team, looks nice.<br />
But if I may invite you all to come and have a look at our current beta program (golden ticket) at <a href="http://www.tenforce.com/goldentickets/index.html" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.tenforce.com/goldentickets/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tenforce.com/goldentickets/index.html</a></a> (pls no digg)<br />
We have also build a project management application with all the bells and whistles, but starting from a very pragmatic point of view, namely based upon your lists, to do's, meeting minutes, msp files, etc etc. Today they are all over in your company (and beyond). Via our ultra clean UI we will capture all this info in an extremely elegant proven way. And then the real work starts... But let me be not to extensive just before the weekend starts ... just come over and join our beta program not in October but TODAY.</p>

<p>All, enjoy the weekend !</p>

<p>Bart</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-08-31T14:03:06Z</published>
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