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    <published>2007-09-20T19:15:56Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-16T23:08:03Z</updated>
    <title>Zimbra: Why Did Yahoo Buy Them?</title>
    <summary>This week Zimbra was acquired by Yahoo! for a staggering $350M. It seems like only yesterday that Zimbra was the buzz of the 2005 Web Conference. But in two years, Zimbra has grown from a small &apos;cool features&apos; startup to a company worth $350M. But why did Yahoo buy a Web Office collaboration suite? Last...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://zimbra.com"><img src="http://static.flickr.com/72/226909140_d3daf0dab3.jpg?v=0" align="left" hspace="5px" vspace="5px"></a>This week <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_drops_350m_on_zimbra_an.php">Zimbra was acquired by Yahoo!</a> for a staggering $350M. It seems like only yesterday that Zimbra was the buzz of the 2005 Web Conference. But in two years, Zimbra has grown from a small 'cool features' startup  to a company worth $350M. But why did Yahoo buy a Web Office collaboration suite? Last time I checked, Yahoo was a consumer-focused Internet company - not an enterprise or business one. How can Zimbra be used by Yahoo's target audience, or integrated within Yahoo's current product line-up? This post tries to answer those questions.</p>
<h2>From 2005 Web 2.0 Poster Child to 2007 Success Story</h2>
<p>A little history about Zimbra - it is an email and collaboration suite that uses Ajax and mashups on the front-end to achieve a slick new form of collaborative email and calendering. When it was <a href="http://www.zimbra.com/about/zimbra_pr_2005-10-04.html">unveiled in October 2005</a>, the Zimbra Collaboration Suite was described as an &quot;open source messaging server and client &quot; and it aimed to &quot;fundamentally change the way people interact with e-mail&quot;. Some people said it was an alternative to Microsoft Exchange. In 2005 they were big dreams - and it certainly captured the imagination of the Web 2.0 Conference attendees and bloggers. </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>I was at the 2005 Web 2.0 Conference, although <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/zimbra_ui_minut.php">my  post</a> on Zimbra's presentation at that time was just some quick notes. But in February 2006 I named Zimbra my <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=123">best-of-breed 'mini-suite'</a> at that time. Then in <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=155">my first in-depth review of Zimbra</a> in April 2006, I noted that the biggest promise in Zimbra was in its mashups:</p>
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  <p>&quot;The real power of Zimbra is its APIs, which together with Zimbra‚Äôs open source status makes this a potentially powerful development platform. The APIs enable developers to access messaging functions inside the Zimbra application, meaning external apps can hook into Zimbra‚Äôs functionality. The example used in the demo is a travel application using Zimbra‚Äôs APIs to &quot;automatically create a calendar event for the person traveling&quot;.&quot;</p>
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<p>And that is probably one of the main reasons why Yahoo acquired Zimbra. Yahoo is aiming to create a more open platform, using APIs and mashups across multiple Yahoo properties (e.g. Yahoo Maps). Yahoo executive  <a href="http://yodel.yahoo.com/2007/09/17/zimbra-is-so-damn-cool/">Brad Garlinghouse wrote</a> in a post this week  that he sees &quot;great opportunities to incorporate some of their [Zimbra's] best-of-breed features (I really like their calendaring) into Yahoo!‚Äôs industry-leading communications products.&quot; But it's not just Yahoo's comms products that will benefit, it's basically anything with an API - and Yahoo has <em>a lot</em> of APIs, including <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_mail_api.php">for Y! Mail</a>.</p>
<p>Note that in mid-2006, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=189">Zimbra had problems</a> with performance in IE browsers - which came about because it's always been pushing the envelope of Ajax. However that was more of a browser issue than Zimbra's fault.</p>
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      <em>Pic <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/taulli/149616559/">by ttaulli</a></em><br />
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<h2>Yahoo/Zimbra vs Google</h2>
<p>It's fair to say that it was the frontend (Ajax, mashups) that wowed Web 2.0 Conference attendees about Zimbra in 2005. However the backend is very stable and it has all the main features that make it acceptable for use by Fortune 500 companies (who are among Zimbra's customers today). Here's how the backend was described in Zimbra's 2005 press release:</p>
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    <p>&quot;...the collaboration server integrates search, archiving, discovery, anti-spam and anti-virus/security features into a single messaging platform which is able to support a company's current network and end-user experience.&quot;</p>
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  <p>But to the question: why did Yahoo acquire business software? By acquiring Zimbra, Yahoo has in a sense entered the Web Office space. Yahoo may be aiming at the small business market, particularly as Zimbra gives them a very strong email/calendar solution to add to their already technologically-sound Yahoo Mail offering. Remember that Yahoo Mail already resembles Outlook in look n' feel, so adding Zimbra to the mix makes for a strong web mail offering, which small businesses and other organizations can utilize.</p>
  <p>In terms of how this positions Yahoo/Zimbra against Google Apps, the leading Web-based competitor to Microsoft Office, Zimbra's competitive advantage against Google is that it's open source and downloadable. The fact that Google's products have to remain behind Google's firewalls put it at a disadvantage to a product like Zimbra, which can be set up on any company's servers. Also, if you recall, last week Read/WriteWeb <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/zimbra_google_apps_not_quite_ready_for_enterprise.php">ran a story</a> about Zimbra's Sarbanes-Oxley compliance alert against Google Apps. Although several commenters came to Google's rescue, the fact remains that Google Apps (and Zoho for that matter) have more of a challenge meeting security and compliance issues, simply because they aren't hosted in-house on the client's premises.</p>
  <h2>Conclusion</h2>
  <p>The acquisition this week of Zimbra may be cosidered expensive for Yahoo, but it shows their long term commitment to technology (the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_launches_2_new_hacks.php">2 new hacks products</a> we reported on last week also show this) and a willingness to look for new markets. </p>
  <p>Yahoo will probably never be a full enterprise software company, as Google wants to be, but there is a lot of potential revenue in an email/calendar suite for small businesses and consumers in general. Could it be that <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/100_days_for_yahoo_intro.php">back in the hands of Jerry Yang</a>, Yahoo is turning back to its roots and competing as a technology company again? With Zimbra on board, they have certainly fortified their web tech artillary. Also I'm looking forward to seeing how Zimbra is integrated into Yahoo's vast product range - not just email, but in many other 'hacks' as well.</p>
  <p><a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/web2explorer/?p=155">I wrote in April 2006</a> that Zimbra is &quot;an all-round impressive product and one can only wonder what such a feature set would be able to achieve on a large scale - for example if Google bought Zimbra!&quot; Well, I was wrong about who acquired it - but I'm still itching to see what a bigco does with Zimbra!</p>
  <p><em>Additional analysis in this post was contributed by <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/about_emre.php">Emre Sokullu</a></em></p>
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    <li><a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/zimbra_mashing_up_office.php">Zimbra: Mashing Up The Office (Read/WriteWeb review, Sept 06)</a></li>
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    <title>Comment from Rod Boothby on 2007-09-20</title>
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        <name>Rod Boothby</name>
        <uri>http://www.innovationcreators.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Richard,</p>

<p>Great article, as always.   You are exactly right about the Zimbra acquisition being a platform play.</p>

<p>However, the example of inserting an event into a calendar is not nearly as interesting as the other way round: going from email into something else.</p>

<p>Next week, I am giving a talk at AJAX World here in Santa Clara entitled Forget Mashups... Integrate Workflow.</p>

<p>As for the competition with Google, Yahoo could easily do an end run around Google by working with the folks at OpenSAM, who deliver tools such as EditGrid with seamless integration.</p>

<p>BTW.... on a side note, I now have a good answer for your question of "What is Web Office".   I'll try to post it in the next couple of days.</p>

<p>Cheers,</p>

<p>Rod</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-09-20T20:54:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2007-09-20</title>
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        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rod, great points as always -- and I look forward to your upcoming post!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-09-20T21:44:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Brian Blank on 2007-09-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>

<p>Great post and answering the question of why. I totally concur with you and Rod with the take on the platform play. </p>

<p>One thing with Microsoft Office is that people are familiar with the setup and feature set, so why change the way people work and force them to learn a new platform or model. So it's no wonder the clone model works so well.</p>

<p>I think if you look at the camp at Adobe and what is possible through Flex, Flash and now AIR, you'll see the potential for platform agnostic programs. Adobe Flash Player in over 99% of internet browsers plus its the same look and feel regardless of your OS and browser choice eliminating the problems like Zimbra had with IE. It also more secure than Java.</p>

<p>Take at look at <a>CommuniGate Systems</a> and can see what they did with Flash for their email platform. Makes you wonder if you can do this with a complex email platform, the possibilities are endless for competing office applications. Could cause quite a stir for Google Apps and other online MS Office replacement tools using AJAX.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-09-20T22:19:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ig on 2007-09-24</title>
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        <name>ig</name>
        <uri>http://www.citadel.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people in the open source community were enthralled by Zimbra's potential to knock Exchange down a few pegs.  Unfortunately, only the bare-bones version of Zimbra is open source.  If you want it to actually be useful you have to buy the commercial version.  Yahoo's acquisition of Zimbra will probably close it up even more.<br /><br />Meanwhile, truly free Exchange killers such as <a href="http://www.citadel.org" rel="nofollow">Citadel</a> are rapidly gaining popularity due to end-to-end GPL licensing.  This stuff matters to a lot of people.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-09-24T15:53:45Z</published>
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