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  <title>Comments for TuneExplorer: Like Pandora for Your Personal Music Collection</title>
  
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    <published>2007-12-27T20:37:40Z</published>
    <updated>2007-12-27T21:30:19Z</updated>
    <title>TuneExplorer: Like Pandora for Your Personal Music Collection</title>
    <summary>Music recommendation and discovery engines are hot stuff but what if you could use some of the same juju to better organize the music you already have in your collection? The newly launched Veenix TuneExplorer for Mac does just that. By looking at qualities the company says include &quot;pitch values, pitch variance, fundamental strengths, and...</summary>
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      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/veenixlogo.jpg" >Music recommendation and discovery engines are hot stuff but what if you could use some of the same juju to better organize the music you already have in your collection?  The newly launched <a href="http://www.veenix.com/">Veenix TuneExplorer</a> for Mac does just that. By looking at qualities the company says include "pitch values, pitch variance, fundamental strengths, and a host of other sonic qualities" - the program acts like <a href="http://pandora.com">Pandora</a> within your music collection.  </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>It will analyze the music on your computer and build playlists based on "energy" or similarities to a song of your choosing.  You can listen to those playlists through the TuneExplorer player or port those playlists over to iTunes.  </p>

<p>TuneExplorer was built primarily as a demonstration interface for Veenix's music analysis software, called the SonicLogicEngine.  As an interface, it's not terribly exciting (ironic, given <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe">where I discovered it</a>) - but hopefully the science behind it can be judged on its own merits.  The software goes beyond the BPM analysis of competing services like <a href="http://www.potionfactory.com/tangerine/">Tangerine</a> and is ultimately intended for licensing by other, larger services that leverage things like user tags and web data.  I liked the results I got from TuneExplorer.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/Picture%20159.png" align="right" >Related work is being done by a number of groups. Sun Labs researcher Paul Lamere, whose <a href="http://research.sun.com/projects/dashboard.php?id=153">Search Inside the Music</a> project purports to combine both tonal and social qualities in organizing music, is one.  <a href="http://thefilter.com">TheFilter</a> is faster, prettier, more useful and compelling (and available for Windows or Mac) - but I don't know that it really builds similarity- based playlists as accurately.  It may be good enough, though.  I may use TheFilter more than TuneExplorer, unless TheFilter's playlist recommendations just don't do it for me.  TuneExplorer may be the best way to jump in to my collection, create some quick playlists for iTunes and then get back out into iTunes proper, where I'd presumably spend most of my time.  On the other hand, TheFilter's recommendations may be "good enough" and made up for by the vastly superior user experience.</p>

<p>Any preference for TheFilter, though, is just speaking as a consumer.  The math behind TuneExplorer's SonicLogicEngine may be the more compelling in the long run.  That project's consumer facing product is very easy to use and is definitely worth a look.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from kiky on 2007-12-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>kiky</name>
        <uri>http://www.laptopbatteryshop.ca/laptop_batteries/sony-vgp-bps3.htm</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Tell me the popular music URL?<br />
thks</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-29T01:35:38Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2007://1.5347-comment:44341</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brant on 2007-12-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brant</name>
        <uri>http://www.themusicresponse.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I'm just not getting it. I don't see either TuneExplorer or The Filter having truly useful features. They are add-ons that are filling the void for individual music libraries to be assimilated in similar ways, I understand that. These programs could be voided out if Apple releases new features like this in  the next version of iTunes. I'm just not sure there's enough <em>demand</em> to warrant any major breakthrough here.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T17:01:45Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2007://1.5347-comment:44336</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ben on 2007-12-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How is this different then something like MusicIP mixer?</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T14:50:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2007://1.5347-comment:44332</id>
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    <title>Comment from Falafulu Fisi on 2007-12-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Falafulu Fisi</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One of the top vendor in music content recommendation is <a href="http://www.bmat.com/" rel="nofollow">Bmat</a> from Barcelona, Spain. It is a spin-off from the <a href="http://www.mtg.upf.edu/?language=english" rel="nofollow">MTG</a> (Music Technology Group). MTG's researches (peer review publications) are freely available from their <a href="http://mtg.upf.edu/publicacions.php" rel="nofollow">site</a> to download. You can retrieve a song by humming (query target) it where the engine retrieves all songs that are similar in tunes. The other way is to point to a target (query) or upload a song sample as the target, and then search for songs that are similar in tunes. The retrieved songs are ranked from most similar to least similar.</p>

<p>I was going to develop a music content retrieval engine like this about a year ago for a local online vendor, but it was decided to just recommend music online based on user-rating rather than content ranking (music digital files). The main algorithms used in such application (time-series analysis application) are <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-time_Fourier_transform" rel="nofollow">Short Time Fourier Transform</a> (STFT) and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelet_transform" rel="nofollow">Wavelet</a>.  Of course there are other DSP (digital signal processing) algorithms involved, but the 2 mentioned above are the core of such technology. Interestingly, STFT and wavelet have been applied in bio-informatics analysis.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T14:31:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ITrush on 2007-12-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>ITrush</name>
        <uri>http://www.itrush.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Music lovers would surely appreciate this very nice program.</p>

<p>Nhick<br />
<a href="http://www.itrush.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.itrush.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T13:51:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Elisha on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Elisha</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Awesome technology. It would definitely spice my days with music. Thanks for sharing.</p>

<p>Cheers,<br />
Elisha<br />
Admin<br />
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    <published>2007-12-28T03:14:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from britne on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>britne</name>
        <uri>http://edtechhacks.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking my recommendation on TheFilter - now I'll have to go try out Tune Explorer!<br />
I'm also always a fan of last.fm, just for the ways it integrates with iTunes and the iPod. Not exactly what you're getting at, but I find it's a nice go-between for my personal music and internet listening.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-28T01:15:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2007://1.5347-comment:44290</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think it's for keeping a groove on for more than 4 or 5 minutes at a time.  It's a fair question but I can see myself wanting to listen to a series of similar songs consecutively.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-27T21:26:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2007://1.5347-comment:44285</id>
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    <title>Comment from Aaron on 2007-12-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Aaron</name>
        <uri>http://aaronmentele.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Very cool technology, but I'm still not sure about the practical application of creating a playlist of like-sounding tracks. Radiohead sounds nothing like Dead Confederate, but I'm currently listening to both.  Robots have a hell of a time unearthing relevancy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-27T21:08:23Z</published>
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