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    <published>2008-01-17T08:01:01Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-17T08:04:22Z</updated>
    <title>Old School BBS: The Chinese Social Networking Phenomenon</title>
    <summary>According to latest report from China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC), by end of 2007, there are over 200 million Internet users (including 163 million broadband users) in China. 2008 is shaping up to be a very busy year for the Chinese Internet, and the Chinese market seems to be pulsing with social networking activity....</summary>
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      <name>Gang Lu</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/comsenz-logo.jpg" width="150" height="20">According to latest report from <a href="http://www.cnnic.cn/en/index/index.htm" target="_blank">China Internet Network Information 
Center</a> (CNNIC), by end of 2007, there are over 200 million Internet users 
(including 163 million broadband users) in China. 2008 is shaping up to be a very busy year 
for the Chinese Internet, and the Chinese market seems to be pulsing with social networking activity.  But for Chinese Internet users, social networking has taken on a very different form than it has in Western countries.  In China, the most popular form of networking may just be the traditional Internet forum system, or BBS.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>That's not to say traditional social networking is dead -- far from it.  You can find <a href="http://qzone.qq.com/" target="_blank">QZone</a> which is owned by Tencent 
with the support of <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/qq_china_im_web20.php" target="_blank">QQ's over 220 
millions active users</a>.  Then there is <a href="http://51.com/" target="_blank">51.com</a> which proclaims 160,000 new users daily; <a href="http://www.linkist.com/" target="_blank">Linkist
</a> and <a href="http://www.wealink.com/" target="_blank">
Wealink</a> are two popular professional networks 
based in Shanghai; <a href="http://www.mobinode.com/?p=261" target="_blank">Tianji.com</a> is 
another professional network based in Beijing and it has partnered with <a href="http://www.viadeo.com/" target="_blank">Viadeo</a>, one of the world's largest online 
business communities to create a premier business platform for online networking 
between China and Europe; <a href="http://www.xiaonei.com/" target="_blank">Xiaonei</a>, <a href="http://www.zhanzuo.com/" target="_blank">Zhanzuo</a> and many others are sharing the campus 
social networking market.</p>

<p>With its massive user base, the Chinese market is naturally one of the most attractive places for Western networks to attemp to set up shop. <a href="http://www.mobinode.com/?p=166" target="_blank">MySpace</a> has set up an office in 
Beijing; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/" target="_blank">Facebook</a> might acquire a Chinese 
SNS, <a href="http://fenbei.com/" target="_blank">Fenbei.com</a>, and surely will have local 
presence in 2008; <a href="http://www.mobinode.com/?p=220" target="_blank">Friendster</a> 
has done very well in the South East Asian market and expects similar success in China. <a href="http://www.xing.com/" target="_blank">Xing</a>, a professional network from 
Europe, set up a Chinese office back in 2005; <a href="http://last.fm/" target="_blank">Last.fm</a> 
is trying to be more localized in China to compete with <a href="http://www.9sky.com/" target="_blank">9Sky</a>, <a href="http://www.yobo.com/" target="_blank">Yobo</a>, and <a href="http://www.8box.com/" target="_blank">8box</a>.</p>

<p>Surprisingly, though, one of the most popular methods for Chinese netizens to communicate exists far from the web 2.0 scene: traditional Bulletin Board Systems (BBS).  BBS actually plays a very 
significant role in Chinese Internet life. In China, registered BBS users have 
reached 3 billion (one netizen might register at multiple BBS sites); 
80% of Chinese sites are running their own BBS and the total number of daily page views across bulletin board systems has reached over 1.6 billion, with 10 million posts published every day. The BBS is an undiscovered and untalked about Chinese Internet phenomenon. To understand more about why BBS is so hot in China and how it will 
co-exist with modern social networks, we interviewed Kevin Day the CEO 
and founder of Comsenz Inc., owner of <a href="http://www.discuz.com/" target="_blank">Discuz!</a>, the first ever social platform - a 
BBS system - for the Chinese Internet. More than 400,000 BBS sites are built on the Discuz! 
system in China, or in other words, Discuz! controls over 70% of the Chinese BBS market.</p>

<h2>The Phenomenon of Chinese BBS</h2> 

<p>According to a report produced by <a href="http://english.iresearch.com.cn/html/Default.html" target="_blank">iResearch Consulting Group</a> in 2007, around 36.3% of users in China spend 1-3 hours per day on BBS sites, about 
44.7% of users spend 3-8 hours, and even 15.1% of users are on BBS sites for more than 8 
hours each day. Over 60% of users will log in to at least 3 BBS sites more than 3 times each week. </p>

<p>According to the report, the primary reasons for using BBS sites is 
finding solutions to problems, general discussion, finding information, and sharing life experiences. 98% of users have
contributed to a BBS by publishing articles, replying to posts, participating 
in polls, etc. Users tend to trust BBS sites because they think the information found on them is first-hand, updated frequently, and presented in a comfortable, community environment. </p>

<p>Chinese BBS life has apparently extended offline, as well. The report also 
says 64.5% of users have attended some offline events organized by BBS 
administrators or users. More than 80% of users are using BBS sites to search for information about products they plan to buy, and 61.7% of users are keen to ask other BBS users for opinions before making a purchase. Astonishingly, BBS sites are even acting as ecommerce hubs themselves, with 47.3% of users having bought products directly from a BBS. </p>

<p>The screenshot below shows a BBS set up by the fans of Jinglei Xu, a very 
famous Chinese celebrity and blogger. This site has over 65,420 registered 
users, and you can find thousands of online communities like this one built on 
traditional BBS software.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/xujinglei-bbs.jpg" width="630" height="535" ></p>

<h2>The History of Discuz!</h2> 

<p>If you ever log onto a Chinese BBS site, most likely it is built on the 
Discuz! system. Discuz! was originally developed by Kevin Day when he was at his first 
year in university. In 2002, the first version of Discuz! was sold to a Hong Kong 
based company, and in 2003, Day decided to discontinue his studies and 
founded Comsenz Inc. in 2004 in Beijing.</p>

<p>In 2005, Comsenz Inc. partnered with <a href="http://www.zend.com/en/" target="_blank">Zend</a> and established the Zend China support center. Later in 2005, Day announced that Discuz! was going open source, which 
has been described by local media as an earthquake for the Chinese software industry. 
Comsenz Inc. got its first round of funding for around $10 million from Sequoia Captial, 
Morningside, and Google in 2006.</p>

<p>Now Comsenz Inc. has grown to a household name 
with 200+ staff and a complete product line that includes Discuz! (bulletin 
board), <a href="http://www.supesite.com/" target="_blank">X-Space</a> (social Network 
platform), <a href="http://www.supesite.com/" target="_blank">SupeSite</a> (content management 
system), <a href="http://www.ecshop.com/" target="_blank">ECShop</a> (open source B2C and C2C 
system) and <a href="http://www.supev.org/" target="_blank">SupeV</a> (online videosharing 
system). It is also running a few Internet services, including a free forum 
hosting service <a href="http://www.5d6d.com/" target="_blank">5d6d</a>, a free B2B shop hosting 
service <a href="http://www.maifou.net/" target="_blank">Maifou</a>, and a community advertising 
network <a href="http://www.insenz.com/" target="_blank">Insenz</a>. Day is just 26 years 
old, but he has been publicly recognized as the one of the most successful entrepreneurs born in 1980s.</p>

<h2>The BBS and Social Networks</h2>

<p>With 70% of Chinese BBS sites built on Discuz!, Day is obviously a key figure behind the phenomenon. So we asked him why he thought BBS systems have become so popular in China. "The first Chinese BBS was probably set up back in 
1997. Like Email, BBS is one of the first Internet services recognized by 
Chinese netizens," he told us. "Chinese like the communities, they are normally a bit quiet in 
real life but in Internet they love to express their opinion and to follow up 
some discussion of hot topics. BBS provides a perfect and easy-to-setup show 
stage for everyone. BBS has evolved as a media platform, it is not the main 
stream media yet and might never be in China, but the latest and hottest news 
are always from various forums, spread and discussed by millions of users.</p>

<p>"Take a look at how fast the blog grows in China, you will 
understand my point here. The BBS users are more mature, they are mainly at the 
age of 20 to 40, well-educated and with various professional background, and 
their contribution to all sorts of forums make BBS a valuable information 
source."</p>

<p>With social networking on the rise in the Western world and also in China, we asked Day if he thought social networking sites would eventually replace the BBS in Chinese culture.</p>

<p>"BBS will not be replaced by SNS and they will not be the competitors 
to each other either," he answered. "BBS is a must-to-have application in SNS, at least in 
China. The features of BBS can help the social network users to exchange their 
ideas efficiently. On the other hand, SNS is a people-centric networking 
platform but BBS is a topic-centric platform. SNS is to map the social 
relationship in real life into the cyber space, which in my opinion is one of 
the reasons people love Facebook; But BBS is there for users to follow the 
hottest topics and expand your social experience virtually. In BBS, people go 
there because they are interested in the topics, and whom they communicate with 
does not really matter."</p>

<h2>The Monetization of BBS</h2>

<p>The global social networking market is still struggling to seek the best methods for  
monetization, but it seems that BBS sites have already found a way to drive revenue. Day introduced us to his <a href="http://www.insenz.com/" target="_blank">Insenz</a> product, a 
BBS-based marketing service that was launched about six months ago. At its core, Insenz is basically a Chinese version of Google's Adsense/AdWord services focused on BBS sites. If you are 
running a BBS focusing on the mobile phones market, for example, you can join the Insenz 
advertisement program and get mobile phone related ads or articles posted 
on your BBS.</p>

<p>Insenz's customer are from <a href="http://www.insenz.com/main/case_client.htm" target="_blank">all sorts of industries</a>, 
car manufacturers, telecommunications, IT companies, etc. Insenz will monitor user feeback (e.g. how many replies to the article, how many times the post has been viewed, etc.) during the campaign and issue a report to marketers that includes valuable first-hand marketing information.  The BBS sites that participate in the marketing campaigns get a cut of the revenue.</p>

<p>Of course Insenz takes the advantage of Day's Discuz! kingdom. But actually,
in China, Insenz is not the only company offering this service. <a href="http://daqi.com/" target="_blank">Daqi.com</a>, which started as a portal service, is now also taking advantage of the BBS phenomenon for marketing purposes. 
Instead of distributing ads across forums, they invented a technology to 
help gather and analyze discussions about the products of their customers. 
Daqi closed its second round fund from WI Harper in 2007. </p>

<h2>Conclusion</h2>

<p>A universal BBS search engine will definitely be more valuable than blog 
search in China, though Day said that he would not bother to do this 
simply because he thinks the search engine giants Google or Baidu have better 
technology to implement it. It seems that Google China has noticed the popularity of BBS sites in the Chinese Intneret market, and have recently taken a stake in <a href="http://tianya.cn/" target="_blank">Tianya.cn</a>, a very popular BBS-based social network 
with 6+ million registered users and 200,000 online users daily. So should MySpace, Facebook, and other traditional Western social networks endeavor to enhance their BBS features if they want to play in China? </p>

<p>What do you think? Leave your thoughts in the comments below.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45439</id>
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    <title>Comment from colour on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>colour</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>It is a great AD here.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T09:19:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45441</id>
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    <title>Comment from Eit on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Eit</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>It's Cool! Isn't it?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T09:50:09Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45442</id>
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    <title>Comment from Technicle on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Technicle</name>
        <uri>http://technicle.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://technicle.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Plus this www.113.com now on the launchpad, likely a facebook clone or a digg clone, with opensocial favors..</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T10:30:49Z</published>
  </entry>

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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45444</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cast on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cast</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>It's really interesting in such a country.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T12:48:42Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45447</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esdee on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esdee</name>
        <uri>http://myspace.com/facesfaces</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://myspace.com/facesfaces">
        <![CDATA[<p>nice review, even if Comsenz-centered<br />
thanks<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T15:33:13Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45450</id>
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    <title>Comment from Smelly on 2008-01-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smelly</name>
        <uri>http://www.dodgeit.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.dodgeit.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>"Old school BBS" is not quite "Old school". When I read the title I thought you were talking about *really* old school BBS systems that peopled dialed directly into. What you're writing about are forums, and are still an important part of the Internet culture. While blogs come and go, social networks start-up and die, forums will always be around.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-17T17:47:33Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45496</id>
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    <title>Comment from Vrindavan on 2008-01-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Vrindavan</name>
        <uri>http://easss.com/internet/social-networking/index.htm</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://easss.com/internet/social-networking/index.htm">
        <![CDATA[<p>Yes , that is not BBS<br />
they are online forums</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-18T11:37:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45533</id>
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    <title>Comment from e2 on 2008-01-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>e2</name>
        <uri>http://www.e2mostwanted.blogsome.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.e2mostwanted.blogsome.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>very interesting. Social networking boooommmmz.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-19T04:37:02Z</published>
  </entry>

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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5460-comment:45577</id>
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    <title>Comment from Daniel Peeden on 2008-01-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Daniel Peeden</name>
        <uri>http://www.trigeia.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.trigeia.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>At this point in time we see social networking booming in several different forms, bbs and your typical web 2.0 but how long will this type of social platform be around? The internet is changing very fast, How will social networking and conversion integrate with eachother? So my point is although companies that get involved in the china market will make money. It is the companies like www.trigeia.com that will win in the end. Companies that focus on innovation and how profile will make life more efficient for the user of it and how the online url will be integrated into the devices we will use in everyday life. What do you think will these sites play a vital role in the way we communicate in the future and run our lives?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-21T20:29:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from J Kleiman on 2008-01-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>J Kleiman</name>
        <uri>http://www.allfacebook.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.allfacebook.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>Has anybody heard of 17dian.com ?  Is it popular? Any good?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-01-24T23:34:25Z</published>
  </entry>

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    <title>Comment from eric kwon on 2008-02-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>eric kwon</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>This blog articles are far from my experience on Chinese internet industry.</p>

<p>The usage of BBS sinks gradually because there are many spam and pronographic articles in many Chinese BBS.<br />
Even Chinese traditional big portals try to attract more traffics by using adult oriented contents.<br />
It is useless for normal users especially with high level education.  </p>

<p>Moreover, many of SNS services cited in this articles do generate fake alexa traffic.  Even big portals listed on Nasdaq do thak kind of cheating.  After year 2008, there will be many changes of doing Web businesses in China.</p>

<p>Many Chinese users already understand the problems of old sites as they experience and know more about Web.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-10T19:09:06Z</published>
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