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    <published>2008-01-29T16:52:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-01-29T16:56:00Z</updated>
    <title>What Is It About Turkey? It&apos;s A Lot of Things</title>
    <summary>TechCrunch&apos;s Mike Butcher reports about Turkish social network Yonja&apos;s $12.5 million worth of funding and asks, &quot;What is it about Turkey?.&quot; As a Turkish native, I think I am the right person to answer that question and also, this can be an opportunity to shed some light on the latest intriguing developments at Facebook, LinkedIn,...</summary>
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      <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/turkey-flag.jpg" width="150" height="107" />TechCrunch's Mike Butcher reports about Turkish social network <a href="http://yonja.com">Yonja</a>'s
<a rel="bookmark" title="Turkish social network Yonja raises $12.5m" href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/01/29/turkish-social-network-yonja-raises-125m/">
$12.5 million worth of funding</a> and asks, "What is it about Turkey?." As a Turkish 
native, I think I am the right person to answer that question and also, this can be an 
opportunity to shed some light on the latest intriguing developments at Facebook, 
LinkedIn, Xing, and Ning, as they relate to the European and world social networking markets.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>First things first, this investment is actually quite old.
<a href="http://www.yonjamedia.com/news12-en.htm">It was announced</a> in Turkey in 
August 2007, and since, there have been a lot of changes on the Yonja side, 
including the
<a href="http://arsiv.sabah.com.tr/2007/12/16/haber,01662405AD65455FAC4DABD0260C09FE.html">
sell out</a> of some more shares to Turkey's Yahoo!, <a href="http://mynet.com">
MyNet</a>, for an estimated amount of $15 million. These moves are actually a 
response to the growing popularity of <a href="http://facebook.com">Facebook</a> in 
Turkey. Turkey is now the 4th biggest local network on Facebook following the USA, 
Canada, and England, and it is the biggest non-English speaking community on the site.  Numbers below are from December 22, 2007:</p>

<p>
<ul>
<li>The Turkish population on Facebook is estimated to exceed 2.1 million, which places Turkey just 
behind the USA, UK, and Canada, and ahead of English-speaking Australia.</li>
<li>10 out of the 150 most active applications on Facebook are in non-English languages. 1 is in Spanish, 
the other 9 are in Turkish.</li>
<li>There are 6 non-English apps in the first 10 pages of the Recently Popular list 
- they are all in Turkish.</li>
</ul>
</p>


<p>Further, some of Facebook's fascinating visitor numbers coming out of ComScore and other web metric firms come from the Turkish effect. I had the chance to ask Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg about it at the Crunchies event, and he agreed that Turkey was having an effect on Facebook's traffic. This is actually a threat for 
Facebook. Because if non-English speakers dominate an entire network, it could lead to the alienation of the existing user base, similar to what happened 
with Orkut in its early days. Honor Gunday, the founder of one the largest 
social networks in Turkey, <a href="http://zurna.com">Zurna</a>, enviously calls this 
"<a href="http://www.honorico.com/wordpress/?p=95">Orkutization</a>."</p>


<p>Secondly, this investment in Yonja is not the only success we've heard about lately out of  
Turkey. As Mike Butcher recalls, <a href="http://cember.net">cember.net</a> was recently
<a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssTechMediaTelecomNews/idUSL238272720080123">
acquired</a> by the European business networking leader
<a href="http://xing.com">Xing</a>. This is actually a rather big move, because 
while <a href="http://linkedin.com">LinkedIn</a> has a very strong 
position in America, they have zero presence in other locations. LinkedIn might be fast 
being erased by Xing's global expansion. In a global, connected world, that's 
not a good sign for LinkedIn. And note that Xing is already a public company. So 
if LinkedIn delays an exit a little more, it may lose its advantageous position, 
even in the US. In other words, I'm not as optimistic about LinkedIn <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/linkedin_and_the_future_of_business_social_networks.php">as our own Bernard Lunn</a>. A small delay may make us call LinkedIn, LinkedInDust.</p>

<p>Similarly when you take a look at Alexa's ranking of
<a href="http://www.ning.com">Ning</a>'s biggest networks, you see that they are 
either adult-oriented or Turkish. So Ning is being nourished by Turkish traffic 
as well.</p>

<p>Last but not least, Turkey's high potential in social networking comes from its 
very young demographics. The number of young people in Turkey exceeds even 
the most populated countries in Europe. Moreover, the 
Internet penetration is quite high, and similar to Brazilians, Turkish people 
have very social characteristics; Turkey was the 2nd biggest market for <a href="http://get.live.com/messenger/overview">Live Messenger</a>, after all.</p>

<p>As for Mike's question, some influential people behind the world's most 
popular social networks come from Turkey.  To name a couple, the founder of
<a href="http://www.orkut.com">Orkut</a> and the project manager of Windows Live 
are Turkish. So, "what is it about Turkey," is not actually the right type of 
question, although I can understand Mike, because Turkey is generally still a market in 
the dark, awaiting more exploration.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from RezaR on 2008-01-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>RezaR</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think this article wrote with Ultra Nationalistic approach. <br />
All Best IT persons from whole world go to U.S. <br />
But they countries don't care because they are in U.S. not in Turkey or etc.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-29T17:53:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jaap on 2008-01-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jaap</name>
        <uri>http://www.jaapstronks.nl</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>LinkedIn actually has a pretty big share of the market in the Netherlands. 80 percent of professionals I know use LinkedIn. Nobody uses Xing. Everybody uses Hyves as well, although that's not used for business purposes. If LinkedIn is being erased, it would be by FaceBook: especially many business people are using it (and more extensively than LinkedIn, which is only used to keep resumes and contact lists up to date).</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-29T17:58:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Arda Kutsal on 2008-01-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Arda Kutsal</name>
        <uri>http://www.webrazzi.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Nice post Emre. I'd like to correct you about Yonja's latest deal. This $12.5M Series A funding is just for the latest MyNet sell out. After I <a href="http://www.webrazzi.com/2008/01/29/yonjadan-aciklama-yapildi-alinan-yatirim-miktari-125-milyon/" rel="nofollow">posted</a> about this deal, I talked to Kerim Baran, CEO of Yonja LLC, and he confirmed.<br />
The one you mentioned in the post, which was in August, is a completely different acquisition.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-29T19:55:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Emre Sokullu on 2008-01-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
        <uri>http://emresokullu.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi RezaR, no it's just tlo shed light on the latest developments in the Turkish internet scenes; Techcrunch and others have covered it very much lately, from MySpace Turkey, to Yonja and cember.net - so I just wanted to give insight to our readers - that's the most insightful that you can find. I've spent my last 4 months in Turkey so I know a lot. But to be honest, yes I'm pretty excited with what's going on there.</p>

<p>@Jaap: thanks for enlightening, although I still believe Xing will continue to its acquisitions all around the world, so they have great chance.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-29T19:58:36Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5524-comment:45937</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mike Butcher on 2008-01-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mike Butcher</name>
        <uri>http://uk.techcrunch.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post! Thanks for enlightening me. BTW, LinkedIn is pretty damn big in the UK, a million members, so I wouldn't write them off just yet. But yes, Xing is growing too - it's just invisible in the UK that's all.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-30T09:31:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Emre Sokullu on 2008-01-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Emre Sokullu</name>
        <uri>http://emresokullu.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike, yes, now I see that LinkedIn is strong both in UK and Netherlands. That's pretty significant indeed.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-01-30T23:21:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Erhan Erdogan on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Erhan Erdogan</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@RezaR You are right : ) It is ultra ; )<br />
But it doesnt mean any of other Best Men in here, Turkey...<br />
Wait and see...<br />
U re right. Because some of men really forget their countries at their back; like maven! Did you hear <a href="http://www.maven.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.maven.net/</a> and its CEO Hilmi Ozguc? Turkish people doesnt hear his name before : ) But Yahoo knows him now ; ) <br />
Everything not goes right in its way at the same time...<br />
We have lots of idea, dont afraid of our Ultra Nationalistic approaches ; ) This is our business style ; )<br />
One day like Bulent Celebi, it's time to turn back; and time to give smthng like <a href="http://www.airties.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.airties.com/</a> ; )<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T23:47:19Z</published>
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