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  <updated>2008-05-09T18:05:36Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for Backpack Upgrade - Maybe Not So Out of Focus</title>
  
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    <published>2008-02-20T17:30:09Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-20T17:31:49Z</updated>
    <title>Backpack Upgrade - Maybe Not So Out of Focus</title>
    <summary>Last week we wrote a piece questioning whether perhaps 37Signals had lost focus with the upgrades to their popular Backpack organizational tool. We argued that the changes were morphing Backpack from a simple organizational tool into a robust intranet system that put it on a collision course with Basecamp, the company&apos;s groupware application. Many commenters...</summary>
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      <name>Josh Catone</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/37slogo-trans.gif" width="100" height="22" />Last week we wrote a piece questioning whether perhaps 37Signals had lost focus with the upgrades to their popular <a href="http://www.backpackit.com/">Backpack</a> organizational tool.  We argued that the changes were morphing Backpack from a simple organizational tool into a robust intranet system that put it on a collision course with <a href="http://www.getbasecamp.com/">Basecamp</a>, the company's groupware application.  Many commenters on the 37Signals blog felt the same way, though most on this blog seemed to disagree.  Ultimately, we decided that "whether [37Signals has] fallen prey to feature creep will really be measured by the response of their users."</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The new Backpack went live yesterday, and today 37Signals took the unorthodox (for them) step of <a href="http://www.37signals.com/svn/posts/863-the-new-backpacks-first-24-hours">releasing first day sales figures</a> on their blog.  "It was the best day in Backpack’s history," writes founder Jason Fried.  So far, so good.  While we don't know how that stacks up to the average Backpack sales day, nor how sales of Backpack will effect future sales of Basecamp, it doesn't really matter -- it is still far too early to make any judgments.  But that's not what this post is about.</p>

<p>The day after we wrote about Backpack we wrote a post using Twitter as an example talking about how it is smart to let your customers help define your app. In it, we even linked to a chapter from 37Signals' book <i>Getting Real</i> about finding the right customers.  While the main thrust of the article was about providing APIs and open access to products (something that 37Signals <a href="http://developer.37signals.com/">already does</a> for many of their apps, including Backpack), the idea in general can be applied to the Backpack update, at least in theory.</p>

<p>Looking over the Backpack sales numbers this morning, I started thinking about my Backpack post last week, and I began to notice a contradiction between it and the post about letting customers define your product.  In one post we wondered if perhaps 37Signals was "not eating their own dogfood, so to speak."  While the other could be used to point out that if the changes to Backpack were a result of dogfood consumption, then it is likely that what they were doing is letting users define their application.</p>

<p>While I'm not privy to the motivations of the company, it seems likely that multiuser support, and the other features added to Backpack yesterday were things that current users of the app were asking for.  As <a href="http://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch05_Forget_Feature_Requests.php">they wrote in their book</a>, if a feature is worth adding, your customers will keep bugging you about it.  "If it's really worth remembering, they'll remind you until you can't forget."</p>

<p>Changes as big as the ones 37Signals launched this week are not done on a whim.  My guess is that these are mostly things customers had asked for -- and not just once, but a lot, over a long period of time.</p>

<p>So maybe, rather than losing focus and falling prey to feature creep, 37Signals was doing what we'd advised just a day earlier -- letting their customers define their app.  Backpack started out as a simple organizational tool aimed at a single user.  Perhaps customers helped define new use cases that prompted 37Signals to adapt the application to better suit the way in which people were using it.</p>

<p>I still worry that the changes have set it on a crash course with Basecamp, and I really hope that when the two apps collide the result is the a la carte service I envisioned last week.  For now, though, maybe the changes to Backpack are just what the customer ordered.</p> ]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5697-comment:47218</id>
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    <title>Comment from Stephan Miller on 2008-02-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Stephan Miller</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Pretty cool features. I signed up for Backpack when I thought I was going to do a little freelancing, that way I could share things with clients. Scratched that idea but I still use Backpack. The new features would have helped if I still was freelancing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-20T17:43:04Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5697-comment:47219</id>
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    <title>Comment from Henry on 2008-02-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Henry</name>
        <uri>http://www.writiki.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am still impressed with 37signals' applications. Like you I am most moved by their focus and simplicity. Most of them are tools that I would use to enhance productivity. It will be interesting to see whether backpack and basecamp do ultimately collide and what comes of it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-20T17:43:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5697-comment:47225</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tony Mars on 2008-02-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tony Mars</name>
        <uri>http://www.auditoriumA.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We use Backpack as a knowledge base and these changes are just what we need!  Basecamp has never really been suitable for this but the new Backpack is a great step forward.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-20T19:17:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5697-comment:47250</id>
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    <title>Comment from John on 2008-02-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>John</name>
        <uri>http://gcaptain.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can someone please just tell me WTF I need to buy? I'm completely lost regarding what the differences are and I haven't logged in highrise in weeks because of it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-21T02:27:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5697-comment:47833</id>
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    <title>Comment from Aden Andrews on 2008-02-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Aden Andrews</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>37 signals apps stoped impressing me, when I got about 10 regections from their developers. Ok, they don't want to change their products and make it more convenient for users. Then I have to change something then. So far I'm with <a>these guys</a> . They give me more in terms of functionality.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-27T08:14:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Michael (Nozbe.com) on 2008-02-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael (Nozbe.com)</name>
        <uri>http://www.nozbe.com/page/business</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is really a nice coincidence... I've been using Backpack and since it wasn't good with GTD (Getting Things Done), I developed Nozbe (www.nozbe.com) and now we both launched our multi-user accounts in the same time.</p>

<p>However in Nozbe I take a different approach, it's not multi-user, it's multi-accounts - so each user has separate account but "under one roof" so it's just easier for these users to share projects together, they share messages, have one "business" login screen, etc.</p>

<p>But the idea is similar - you buy one multi-account for your company and let everyone in your firm to get things done... together.</p>

<p>I think the approach 37signals did with Backpack is good as a company intranet... Nozbe is meant to be a collaborative tool to get things done... thus I took a little different approach to the multi-user thing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-29T08:00:23Z</published>
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