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  <updated>2008-07-07T13:49:46Z</updated>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632</id>
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    <published>2008-02-13T14:15:54Z</published>
    <updated>2008-02-13T14:19:24Z</updated>
    <title>Facebook Makes it Easier to Delete Your Account, Sort Of</title>
    <summary>It was just Monday that the New York Times reported on the difficulty some users were having when trying to permanently delete their accounts from Facebook. The social networking site offers a &quot;deactivate&quot; feature, but still archives all of a user&apos;s personal information in case that user decides they miss Facebook and want back in....</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Josh Catone</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com/</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/facebook-logo.jpg" width="100" height="35" />It was just Monday that the New York Times reported on the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/technology/11facebook.html">difficulty some users were having</a> when trying to permanently delete their accounts from Facebook.  The social networking site offers a "deactivate" feature, but still archives all of a user's personal information in case that user decides they miss Facebook and want back in.  Frustrated members turned to <a href="http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16929680703">groups on the site</a> to complain (where else?) and get advice on unofficial processes for deleting their accounts.  Today Facebook made account deletion a tiny bit easier.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Facebook modified its help pages to instruct users that permanent account deletion could be requested by contacting the company.  "If you do not think you will use Facebook again and would like your account deleted, we can take care of this for you," says the page. "If you would like your account deleted, please contact us using the form at the bottom of the page and confirm your request in the text box."</p>

<p>The company stopped short of saying they would supply a permanent account deletion button like rival MySpace.  Facebook  <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/13/technology/13face.html">told the New York Times</a> that if they perceived that they needed a more streamlined account deletion process they would test different implementations.   So far, Facebook doesn't see that need.  "On any given day, the number of users reactivating their accounts is roughly half of the number of users deactivating their accounts," Katie Geminder, Director for User Experience and Design at the social network, told the paper.</p>

<p>Though welcomed by critics of Facebook's lack of account deletion policy, some feel that the new blurb in the help pages doesn't go far enough.  The aforementioned "How to permanently delete your facebook account." group has added almost 4,000 members since the original Times article ran on Monday.  "But why hide the option far down in the help pages? And why make it a form? Do I first have to go hunting for HOW to leave, and then explain WHY?" wrote the group's admins in response to this morning's change, "This is a decent first step, now implement the long awaited delete button, thanks!"</p>

<p>Being able to permanently remove information from social networks like Facebook is not a trivial matter for some users.  As we <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/is_facebook_your_permanent_rec.php">recently wrote</a>, Facebook and other social sites are fast becoming your online "permanent record."  People often feel comfortable disclosing sensitive information on these networks, possibly because they're communicating with friends.  Being able to remove that personal information permanently is an option that I'd wager many people want, even if most aren't clamoring to exercise it (until the need to delete outweighs the utility of having an account, most people aren't going to want to delete their account).</p>

<p>What do you think?  Should Facebook make it easier for users to delete accounts?  Let us know in the comments.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46682</id>
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    <title>Comment from theharmonyguy on 2008-02-13</title>
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        <name>theharmonyguy</name>
        <uri>http://theharmonyguy.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One related issue that I've wondered about but haven't blogged about yet is all the user data stored by Facebook applications.  An application has no way to know when a user has deactivated or deleted their Facebook account, so if one can <a href="http://theharmonyguy.com/2008/02/04/facebook-application-history-pages/" rel="nofollow">access an application's history page</a>, that data remains available after the user has left Facebook.  Probably not a huge deal, but still an interesting question.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T14:55:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46684</id>
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    <title>Comment from ajlozier on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>ajlozier</name>
        <uri>http://www.acropoliswms.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>i understand where facebook is coming from here, to a degree.  i know from firsthand experience (not me, per se, but those close to me) that sometimes deciding to delete ones account can be an emotional decision that is regretted a day or two later.  facebook wants to ensure the information can be easily retrieved should the decision be regretted after a cool-off period.</p>

<p>on the other hand, i don't put it past them that there is a slightly more selfish reasoning behind what they are doing, in that they are competing with MySpace and they therefore want their network to grow, not contract.  therefore they want it to be as difficult as possible to permanently leave.</p>

<p>but they are not going to be able to withstand pressure indefinitely.  my advice to them is simple.  provide a waiting period, like purchasing a hand gun.  give users a delete button, no questions asked, but you have 7 days or so to change your mind.  if you do nothing, your account is gone.  it won't please the most die-hard facebook deletion advocates, but i think it is a compromise that would serve everyones best interests.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T15:09:29Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46685</id>
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    <title>Comment from Don V on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Don V</name>
        <uri>http://orbis-writings.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The other day I received a message in my inbox on facebook that was part of a thread.  Facebook asked me if I wanted to view the thread messages that I had previously deleted.  Why is facebook keeping my deleted messages?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T15:11:43Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46687</id>
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    <title>Comment from FredTheSwiss on 2008-02-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I also have the same constraint with my classified ads website.</p>

<p>The problem is related to illegal activites, abuse or scam that could be operated from facebook with the assurance that all the traces can be deleted on a "button click".</p>

<p>BTW, does deleting the data includes the backups? ;)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T16:24:42Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46688</id>
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    <title>Comment from Andy C on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andy C</name>
        <uri>http://www.nbrightside.com/blog/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Weeks ago, I complied with all Facebook's stupid requirements and manually expunged all my data and contacted them via the form specifically asking for my account to be deleted.</p>

<p>Nothing happened. Maybe I should say my name is 'Robert Scoble'.</p>

<p>Some people worry about Google and data privacy. I worry about Facebook.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T16:37:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46690</id>
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    <title>Comment from william on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>william</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It is not just an issue for facebook alone. Google crawls content that they do not own, and like facebook that use this information to generate millions of dollars for themselves. </p>

<p>Allowing a member of any site to delete there account should be a default not something that is added later. The delete button keeps the company honest, with a delete button the company knows that  if members are not pleased with what they are doing they can delete all of their information and the value that they add. </p>

<p>We have has a delete membership button in our social network from day one. We believe that members deserve this respect from us. </p>

<p>www.adelph.us</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T16:48:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46699</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marcello on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marcello</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm skeptical about how "permanent" MySpace's deletion process is. I had deleted my profile in November of 2006, but about two weeks ago I started getting messages from friends who were "glad to see me back on MySpace". Somehow my account and profile had been reactivated without my knowledge! I went through the deletion process again, but my profile still remained. I contacted MySpace and they twice claimed that they had deleted my profile, but the darned thing just wouldn't go away. Finally, after a week of frustrating email exchanges with MySpace, the profile disappeared. Hopefully for good.</p>

<p>But obviously, if the profile could be reactivated, the data must have been stored somewhere, probably on a backup server that hiccuped. Kinda scary!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T18:16:23Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46701</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris</name>
        <uri>http://www.cmadras.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This should be employed by everyone not just Facebook. They should just have a Simple Delete button to erase all information. The government should make a law after a year or two, they should ask the user whether they like to stay or not, if not they should delete the data.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T18:53:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:46719</id>
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    <title>Comment from rick gregory on 2008-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>rick gregory</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Of course there should be a simple Delete button. It should do the typical "Are you sure? YOu can use Deactivate if you think you might come back?" confirmation process. But it is NOT Facebook's place to babysit users. If someone deletes their info and regrets it... well, that's life. </p>

<p>I despair of companies ever learning this though. Remember the horror stories about canceling AOL accounts? Everyone agreed that AOL should make it easy and yet here we are with not only Facebook but a bunch of other social media sites making it hard to control my data. </p>

<p>For all of the lip service given to data portability and that it's my data, most companies don't really believe it. Oh, they'll make it easy to import your data from other services... but export? Delete? Not so much. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-02-13T19:59:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5632-comment:48129</id>
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    <title>Comment from Hannah on 2008-02-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Hannah</name>
        <uri>http://www.JobsInSocialMedia.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>People need to accept the fact that whenever you make a facebook profile, the information will probably never be permanently deleted, sadly enough. I would hate to think that the pictures people have of me on there could come back and haunt me 20 years from now! Think before you put personal information on facebook.</p>

<p>Delete button is necessary, but even if you can simply delete, I don't believe that my data will be wiped out. Maybe in an ideal world!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-01T02:14:14Z</published>
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