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  <title>Comments for Hi5 Launching OpenSocial Platform Today</title>
  
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    <published>2008-03-31T16:36:00Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-01T00:28:12Z</updated>
    <title>Hi5 Launching OpenSocial Platform Today</title>
    <summary>Popular social networking site Hi5 is launching its implementation of the OpenSocial platform today, the first apps go live at noon PST. The company is rolling out the apps very slowly, 1% of users will be able to access them at noon, 10% by the end of the day. The first 100 approved apps (there...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="hi5logo.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/hi5logo.jpg" width="150">Popular social networking site <a href="http://hi5.com/">Hi5</a> is <a href="http://www.hi5networks.com/developer/2008/03/platform-release-plan.html">launching its implementation of the OpenSocial platform today</a>, the first apps go live at noon PST.  The company is rolling out the apps very slowly, 1% of users will be able to access them at noon, 10% by the end of the day.  The first 100 approved apps (there are 53 approved for launch today) will receive 1 year of free hosting from the <a href="http://www.joyent.com/accelerator">Joyent Accelerator</a> (who <strike>may or </strike>may not have been dumped by Twitter as a scalability problem) and free translation from English to Spanish or vice versa.</p>

<p>The only apps mentioned on the company blog so far look pretty silly.  <em>OpenSocial doesn't seem to be working out like at least tech-centric users were hoping.</em></p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The most notable things about Hi5's platform launch are these: </p>

<ul><li>The company will turn on limited "viral messaging" from the start - up to 100 friends can be notified of an action.  That's been what spread apps around Facebook but no other OpenSocial container has turned this option on yet.</li>
<li>Hi5 has a a large audience almost entirely outside of the MySpace/Facebook crowd.  Adam Ostrow <a href="http://mashable.com/2008/03/31/hi5-developer-platform/">cites the following stats</a> from the company: "despite having a reported 80 million users, hi5 claims that it has only 25% active user overlap with any other top social networks."

<p><li>Hi5's strong presence in Latin America has been evident throughout the preparation of the platform.  In addition to free translation of the first 100 approved apps, the company also provided dual locations for its last hackathon event.  While 200 developers met and worked together <a href="http://www.hi5networks.com/developer/2008/03/binational-hackathon-a-great-s.html">one afternoon this month</a> in Mountain View, CA - another 80 did the same in Mexico City.  That's great.  The Web 2.0 community pays far too little attention to Latin America, other than scoffing about <a href="http://orkut.com">Orkut's</a> popularity in Brazil - the 5th most populous country in the world!  Here at RWW we have substantial international readership, our site was founded in New Zealand and we can't wait for more substantive international integration of innovators.</li></ul></p>

<h2>Most Platform Apps Still Suck</h2>

<p>Unfortunately, these platforms are not delivering the important innovation they've promised.  When Mark Zuckerberg launched the Facebook Platform he said it was going to be like a new Operating System.  That's only true if you use your other Operating Systems for nothing but casual games.  Even Zuckerberg says his favorite thing to do on the Facebook Platform is to play Scrabulous with his grandparents.</p>

<p>Maybe it's that these aren't serious environments.  Just to remind readers, though, there are a world of other apps on the web at large that offer remarkable utility in a really cool way.  Remember <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/10_reasons_why_youre_going_to_love_toluu.php">Sarah Perez's review of Toluu last week</a>?  How about the first time you saw <a href="http://friendfeed.com">FriendFeed</a> or <a href="http://meebo.com">Meebo</a>?  Those are strikingly useful apps <em>and</em> they are fun to use.  In all our excitement about platforms, be it on Facebook or OpenSocial, too little attention has been paid to the fact that there's very, very little of substance coming from these development environments.</p>

<p>A representative of MySpace, of all places, <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/liveblogging_opensocial_founda.php">assured us last week</a> that the really good apps are coming soon.  Is all of this technology democratizing publishing and content, so we get more than just lowest common denominator hyper-commercial crap - or is it just going to be more of the same trash that so dominates the culture industries the web claims to be challenging?</p>

<p>For the record, my favorite social networking app so far is <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/idiomag/">Idiomag on Facebook</a>.  What's yours?  We'd love to have a list here of ones that aren't dumb.</p>

<h2>The Tech Is Going in the Wrong Direction</h2>

<p>In that same phone call we also learned that already in these early days of OpenSocial it's taking hours to port from one container to another.  Hours instead of weeks is good, but how long will true interoperability across multiple social networks take for developers once OpenSocial is widely deployed?</p>

<p>Most importantly, while developers are pumping out silly little apps and ad networks are throwing up ads on them - <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/marshall_kirkpatrick_on_g4tv_opensocial.php">many of us are still waiting</a> for cross-site app portability to be joined by true cross-site user data portability.</p>

<p>There are some brilliant people working at every stage in the OpenSocial process.  Let's hope they can succeed in facilitating a meaningful user experience with the apps of the future.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from john on 2008-03-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>john</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While reading this article, and I was struck that it probably was relevant to a social networking site, HumanBook, which has over 250 million profiles of people, including you, your friends, classmates and relatives.<br />
The HumanBook is a mutually managed people directory. People list their own real-life connections, and other connections they have awareness of, to create a lifelong network. The network houses the connections, and then the collaboratively updated address book nurtures them, assuring that they need never be lost. HumanBook is the tool that will allow you to cherish and sustain all of the connections of your whole life. So if you're interested, go to <a href="http://www.HumanBook.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.HumanBook.com</a> and find your profile today!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-31T17:35:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5999-comment:50689</id>
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    <title>Comment from Danny Espinoza on 2008-03-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Danny Espinoza</name>
        <uri>http://www.amnestywidgets.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hours instead of weeks is pretty respectable for version 0.7 of the platform, especially since "write once run anywhere" isn't realistically achievable without opening up the platform on as many containers as possible, thus the current state of things. Let's all give it some time and let it mature a bit.</p>

<p>Now, the "silly app" thing is certainly not going away soon: creating an easy application platform (and thus lowering the bar for developers) breeds simple applications.  See: the average web page circa 1995.  The solution?  Create a search engine that finds the most relevant "app" just like Google finds you the most relevant site.  But that of course, is a while away (or is it?).</p>

<p>As for my favorite Facebook app, that of course is our own creation. :-)</p>

<p> <a href="http://www.amnestywidgets.com/HypercubeFB.html" rel="nofollow">Hypercube</a> (available on OpenSocial too, natch).</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-31T21:16:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Kristie Wells on 2008-03-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kristie Wells</name>
        <uri>http://joyent.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We (Joyent) look forward to working with Hi5 to seed OpenSocial development by supporting their developers infrastructure needs. </p>

<p>We have already seen great successes with our recent Facebook developer program, with some customers serving more than one billion page views a month without *any* scaling issues. </p>

<p>We also support companies such as MLB.com, Oprah's Ambassador project and myLATimes.com</p>

<p>Our Accelerator platform enables applications to scale every single day. It really does come down to the architecture of the application itself as to whether or not your application will allow you to grow seamlessly. </p>

<p></p>

<p></p>

<p><br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-31T21:51:29Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5999-comment:50699</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jeremiah Owyang on 2008-03-31</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeremiah Owyang</name>
        <uri>http://web-strategist.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great insight Marshall, thanks for this</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-31T23:15:25Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.5999-comment:50757</id>
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    <title>Comment from Munashe Gumbozvanda on 2008-04-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Munashe Gumbozvanda</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>i wrote about this too at tlcstudio.wordpress.com, i was inspired by this post, but from an developing nations point of view. </p>

<p>nice</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-01T14:45:11Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nick L on 2008-04-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nick L</name>
        <uri>http://nicklothian.com/blog</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><i>The Tech Is Going in the Wrong Direction</i></p>

<p>I don't get this, and it appears to be a reoccuring meme, so  I think it's time someone expanded on it. </p>

<p>OpenSocial is only marginally related to Data Portability - so saying progress on app portability is the wrong direction is confusing. It's kind of like saying progress on the HTML 5 spec is bad because it doesn't fix Firefox bugs. Both things are marginally related, but moving on one doesn't mean the other is being left behind.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-02T01:33:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from La Estrella Brillante on 2008-04-05</title>
    <author>
        <name>La Estrella Brillante</name>
        <uri>http://ohohcita.hi5.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've been using both facebook and hi5 for years.<br />
What I loved about facebook, which hi5 didn't have, was the cool apps. And now, after hi5 launched OpenSocial platform, I'm able to use those great apps on hi5!</p>

<p>I was happy when I saw many similiar apps I used on facebook; however, most of them hardly worked! i could only install them but couldn't customize them. I could only select people on page 1 to be my top friends/ to give superhi5/ etc. I couldn't choose the rest of them on the other pages because nothing happened when I clicked the other pages. Even Last.fm app, which I thought would be a working one, couldn't work properly on hi5 either!</p>

<p>So now I've gotta remove all of them out of my page<br />
even I'd love to have it..<br />
But having a dead app on your page doesn't make any good, right?<br />
Maybe I have to wait a while til everything get better..<br />
just like Microsoft Vista? lol</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-05T19:32:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Denise Graab / hi5 on 2008-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Denise Graab / hi5</name>
        <uri>http://www.hi5.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The new hi5 Platform and Application Directory have now been rolled out to 100% of hi5's 80 million registered members globally. There are already over 150 new apps, with more getting approved and launched every day. You can log in to your hi5 profile to check them out, or here's a partial listing on our blog:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.hi5networks.com/blog/2008/04/over_150_new_ways_to_enjoy_hi5.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.hi5networks.com/blog/2008/04/over_150_new_ways_to_enjoy_hi5.html</a> </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-07T20:19:10Z</published>
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