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    <published>2008-03-11T21:37:08Z</published>
    <updated>2008-03-12T21:49:22Z</updated>
    <title>Reuters Open Calais Update: Apps Progress, Interview</title>
    <summary>Reuters Open Calais Update, Interview</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/calais_logo_mar08.gif" />A month ago we wrote about <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/reuters_calais.php">Reuters launching an API</a> called <a href="http://www.opencalais.com/">Open Calais</a>, a technology that &quot;does a semantic markup on unstructured HTML documents - recognizing people, places, companies, and events.&quot; I mentioned Calais in my Media08 presentation last week entitled <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/web_technology_trends_for_2008.php">Web Technology Trends for 2008 and Beyond</a>. It generated interest in the media-focused audience I presented to, so in this post we follow up with Reuters and ask what progress is being made. Specifically we look at what apps have been built so far on Calais and get feedback from Reuters' Tom Tague.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Quick Recap of Open Calais</h2>
<p>Open Calais is a Semantic Web technology - and in this case the next generation of the <a href="http://www.clearforest.com">Clear Forest</a> product, which Reuters <a href="http://www.clearforest.com/WhatsNew/PRs.asp?year=2007&id=109">acquired</a> in April '07 (<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/clearforest.php">see our Dec '06 review</a>). <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/reuters_calais.php">Alex Iskold's post last month</a> is 'must read' to understand what Open Calais is and why Reuters bought it. This diagram summarizes:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/opencalais.jpg" /></p>
<p>The API is free for both commercial and non-commercial use and Reuters told us last month that it is prepared to scale for a massive concurrent demand. The API is great for third party developers, because it gives them access to Reuters data. And it benefits Reuters, because it enables Reuters to aggregate metadata for its own uses. </p>
<p>Alex listed some possible uses: intelligent search engines that look for related content, automatically inserting links into raw text, structured alerts, on-the-fly text analysis within your browser.</p>
<h2>Example Apps?</h2>
<p>So it sounds great in theory, but are there any examples of Open Calais apps so far? Reuters has a <a href="http://opencalais.mashery.com/page/bountyprogram">"bounty" program</a> set up, whereby developers are invited to create Open Calais applications and Reuters will pay for that. However, it seems there has been little - if any - takeup of the bounties. </p>
<p>Top of the list of wanted apps was a <a href="http://www.opencalais.com/forum/read/13600">Wordpress plugin</a>. Tom Tague,  who is leading the Calais initiative at Reuters, noted <a href="http://www.opencalais.com/forum/read/13599">in the forum</a> that &quot;unfortunately - and unexpectedly - we haven't seen any reasonable applications for the bounty process so we'll most likely be contracting for the development of the WordPress plugin.&quot; Perhaps the amount of the bounty in this case was an issue - Reuters only offered $5000 for the Wordpress plugin, which doesn't seem like much of an incentive.</p>
<p>So Reuters has been forced to take the initiative and release some apps of their own. One is a new web based <a href="http://sws.clearforest.com/calaisviewer/">document submission tool and viewer</a>. There is some sign of action in the Open Calais forum, <a href="http://www.opencalais.com/forum/read/13214">on a page</a> where developers can list what they're working on. A developer named Craig has built <a href="http://www.craigae.com/lab/calais/">an example of Calais semantics using pure PHP</a> and Abhay Kumar has <a href="http://autotagger.opensynapse.net/">a similar service</a>. These are all 'data input' tools. For an 'output' example, check out Mark Choate's <a href="http://choate.info/Blog/feed.atom">RSS implementation of Calais data</a> (example below).</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/calais_rss_example.jpg" /></p>
<h2>Interview with Reuters' Tom Tague</h2>
<p>Clearly, it's early days. I asked Open Calais lead Tom Tague how the initiative is progressing? Tom replied that &quot;we’re about where we expected to be in terms of applications for Calais.&quot; He told us that the service is &quot;just a little over 45 days old and much of the effort we’re seeing is in building tools to explore the capabilities themselves.&quot;</p>
<p>At this time Open Calais has just over 1,500 developers signed up; with about 30% of those developers actually making calls to and experimenting with the service. &quot;One of the more exciting things that’s going on,&quot; Tom Tague told us, &quot;are several community-led efforts to build Calais libraries for Ruby, PHP, ASP.NET and others. These will provide a great accelerant for developers to gain access to the service.&quot;</p>
<h2>How is Reuters using Calais In-house?</h2>
<p>So, at this point there is nothing to see for non-developers - the apps that have come out so far are developer-focused and not something the rest of us can use. So my next question to Tom was: how is Reuters itself using the Calais technology?</p>
<p>Tom replied that Reuters has several things underway:</p>
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  <p>&quot;We're in the process of adding rich metadata to over 20 years of historical news archives (many millions of articles) to improve searchability and organization. We’re doing a lot of work in automating and generally improving the efficiency of a massive real time content ingestion process. We’re working with one of the community platforms deployed for Reuters customers to improve the tagging and classification of user generated content. And, of course, we have significant efforts under way to generate “machine readable news” to drive low-latency algorithmic trading. All of these efforts are based on the same technology platform driving the Calais initiative.&quot;</p>
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<h2>Conclusion: Show Us The Apps!</h2>
<p>I must admit that I was expecting to see some working apps by now. Perhaps it is a similar case to <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twine_disappoints.php">Marshall Kirkpatrick's experience of Twine</a> (published earlier today), the Semantic knowledge management service that received much early hype. Marshall thinks that Twine is underdone at this time and that the 'consumer' experience is lacking. Calais is much newer of course and, as Tom Tague said, it has only been out in the open for 45 days. So it would be unfair to compare the two efforts. Nevertheless, it would be great to see some compelling consumer-facing apps for Open Calais; even better would be to see something from Reuters that shows the public the benefits of semantic technologies. </p>
<p>Alex Iskold listed a number of consumer apps that could be built using Calais, by Reuters or external parties. I think people need to see at least one of those pretty soon - in order to translate the interest that Open Calais is generating from media and other people, into something non-geeks can see working on the Web and producing noticeably better information results. To paraphrase the famous Jerry Maguire quote, 'Show me the apps!'.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Alex on 2008-03-11</title>
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        <name>Alex</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think it is unreasonable to expect production level apps to be ready within 45 days.  Sure, someone can throw together a pretty meaningless app in a day or two that displays Calais' features.  However, Calais' appeal will be to developers working on complex apps that take time to build out.  My company is in the middle of integrating Calais into a new site that will be available within the next month.  I would expect that a number of Calais powered apps are more likely to appear in the 90-180 day timeframe.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-11T22:09:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Richard MacManus on 2008-03-11</title>
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        <name>Richard MacManus</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That's a fair comment Alex. However it does seem that the Bounty program isn't working. </p>

<p>When it comes down to it though, many people (myself included) are really excited by the possibilities of Calais and so we just can't wait to see it in a consumer-friendly form.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-11T22:17:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tom Tague on 2008-03-11</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Richard:</p>

<p>You're right - we need the apps. It's only through interesting end-user relevant applications that we'll start to expose the full range of Calais capabilities. The good news is we're seeing a level of interest and experimentation that's very encouraging for these early days. </p>

<p>Just to clarify - we're still evaluating the applications for the bounty program for the WordPress plugin. The blog entry you quote was written before the deadline and we saw a small flurry of entrants on the last day. A production strength and innovative plugin is absolutely critical - so we'll pick the best method for getting that delivered to the community as soon as possible.</p>

<p>Our #1 priority is to deliver the infrastructure that allows anyone to build compelling semantically enabled applications without having to invest 80% of their time and money in the semantic engine. We're readying our second upgrade since we launched in late January and will continue on our monthly enhancements for the foreseeable future. </p>

<p>Between continuing to enhance the platform, the level of activity we've seem to date and some upcoming contests I'm sure we'll start to see innovate apps in the near future. In the meantime based on user requests we're upping our per-user transactions per second limit to 4 and our daily limit to 40,000 calls to enable some heavy weight apps that people have cooking.</p>

<p>Regards,  </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-11T23:22:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jlvarner on 2008-03-11</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A WordPress plugin is an interesting choice for the first bounty. It really shows the interplay of Bottom Up and Top Down approaches.</p>

<p>Creating a WordPress plugin allows Reuters to test discovery as reccomendations are either approved or rejected. This way they tap into a broad Bottom Up process to validate and extend their database and algorithms.</p>

<p>Additionally, though they are best known for their reporting, it looks more like Reuters has been a technology company from the beginning. It's always been about enabling the rapid movement of information from the source to the consumer. In that light a WordPress plugin makes perfect sense as it allows Reuters to tap into an emerging source of news &#45; blogs &#45; at the earliest possible moment.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-12T03:53:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tal Keinan on 2008-03-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tal Keinan</name>
        <uri>http://www.semantinet.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am a big fan of Calais (from its Gnosis days).<br />
Like others, I strongly believe that its unique offering will be detrimental in various future web applications.</p>

<p>Bottom line: Reuters' API offering and commitment to support it is very reassuring, and I believe that we should be a little bit more patient before we jump to conclusions.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-12T04:49:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ullrich on 2008-03-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ullrich</name>
        <uri>http://ullrich.gigacities.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Would you want to build your own service on it? Open Calais sounds like a perfect enabler for semantic applications. It offers a high-level service with great functionality. But it raises a question that we will see more and more often as more of such services will see the light. Will they be here to stay? The software I bought and installed will typically run as long as I like. But a Web service? If I make Open Calais a central part of my (commercial) application, then I have to be sure that it is here to stay. The license agreement states that "Reuters may terminate your access to all or any part of the Calais service at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately." Doesn't sound like something I can completely rely on.</p>

<p>Don't get me wrong, Open Calais is a great service. But I have to think hard whether I want to make it part of my application (as Alex, the first commenter does). Maybe Tom can comment on that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-12T05:29:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alex on 2008-03-12</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ullrich, makes a very good point that is a concern with any service based app - is it here for the long term.  In our specific case, we were already building such features into our app and we decided that we could get to market faster with a far more robust feature set using OpenCalais.  However, the openCalais features are not crucial to our app - they provide an excellent set of fries but they are definitely not the burger.  If OpenCalais disappears, our core feature set would not be impacted.  I would not be able to recommend building a core business around OpenCalais until there was more visibility into its long term viability.  Having given that word of warning, I do believe that Reuters has a product in OpenCalais, which managed correctly, has the potential to be a serious player in the service space.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-03-12T11:21:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tom Tague on 2008-03-12</title>
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        <name>Tom Tague</name>
        <uri>http://www.opencalais.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ulrich & Alex:<br />
 <br />
We get it, and are determined to remove this barrier to adoption for the Calais service. <br />
 <br />
We fully understand that the fact that Calais is free and has fairly generous usage limits is not enough to bet your business on. And, we’re determined to make Calais a capability that business users can rely on. </p>

<p>We’re working to figure out the right mechanism for making that happen.  Our goal is to end at a point where potential users have extraordinarily high confidence that the service is here for the long term, that service levels are maintained and that the functionality of the system will continue to improve. </p>

<p>More soon.<br />
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    <published>2008-03-12T17:57:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mustafa on 2008-03-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mustafa</name>
        <uri>http://www.md-12.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Another 'output' example is <a href="http://www.md-12.com/rsstagger-tags-items-in-rss-feed/" rel="nofollow">RSSTagger</a> </p>

<p>When you enter the url of RSS feed, you will receive the same rss feed including the semantic metadatas (like City,Company,Continent and more) in each item.<br />
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    <published>2008-03-25T08:31:28Z</published>
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