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    <published>2008-04-11T20:09:28Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-11T21:01:26Z</updated>
    <title>LinkedIn as Headhunting Tool - Watch Out Monster, Dice!</title>
    <summary>I first used LinkedIn for business development and wrote about the experience here. In summary, it is one the best new sales tools since the rolodex - as Alex Iskold noted this week. But like a rolodex, it is only as good as the contacts in it and the skill of the person using it....</summary>
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      <name>Bernard Lunn</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/headhunting3.jpg" />I first used <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinkedIn">LinkedIn</a> for business development and wrote about the experience <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/linkedin_and_the_future_of_business_social_networks.php">here</a>. In summary, it is one the best new sales tools since the rolodex - as <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/business_development_20.php">Alex Iskold noted this week</a>. But like a rolodex, it is only as good as the contacts in it and the skill of the person using it.</p>
<p>Recently I have been using it for headhunting. From talking to both <a href="http://www.xing.com/">Xing</a> and LinkedIn management, I understand that headhunting is the primary use case - at least as a revenue driver for them.</p>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/linkedin_logo.gif" align="right" />First I used LinkedIn to see who I could hire without using a headhunter.  I can see how somebody with a well-maintained network could save on headhunting fees. With more time, I would not need a headhunter. However this is a critical hire and time is of the essence. So the company is willing to pay headhunter fees.</p>

<p>Which is why good headhunters will always be in business. Even if LinkedIn changes the game for them.</p>
<p>Which it does. But it really changes the game in a not very nice way for Monster and Dice.</p>
<p>This became clear when I spoke to the first headhunter. He is very good at his niche, I have used him with success before. So I was shocked to find he did not know about LinkedIn. I clued him in. He owes me a discount on my next search.</p>
<p>I asked the next headhunter and his response was &#8220;it&#8217;s awesome, totally changes the game&#8221;.</p>
<p>He is right. The reason is that LinkedIn connects me to people who are not looking, but who might be with the right proposition. So I can target not only companies where people may have the right experience but companies where the employees might also be feeling nervous about the future.</p>
<p>That saves me the Monster and Dice fees. Which would only get me the active job seekers.</p>
<p>My proposition to the headhunter who was not using LinkedIn was that he should put his whole proprietary database up on LinkedIn. This was his pride and joy, the accumulated asset from decades in the game. So the idea gave him some <a href="http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=21958">agita</a>. But I also said that he could connect to me and I was happy to give him an exclusive on this search. I was not willing to pay the 33% headhunting fee, more like half that (more a &#8220;recruiter&#8221; than an &#8220;executive search&#8221; fee). But that would be worth it to me as I would get his contacts as well as his time and experience filtering and closing the right candidate.</p>

<p>This works because the headhunter can set the  Connections tab as  private.  That  prevents a client or  competitor browsing  through his database. They can see his Connections via Search. But transparency is one price to pay. In the end it is only names on LinkedIn, what matters is the quality of the relationship.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how headhunters will adapt to LinkedIn. I am not sure if it is wise for them to load in their contacts. I know that would work for me as a client, but our interests are not totally aligned. I do know that they will have to adapt.</p>
<p>I am sure that Monster, Dice and their equivalent will have to work a lot harder to prove their value.</p>
<p>I also know that many companies would love to ban their employees from being on LinkedIn, to avoid them being poached. However I suspect that effort will fail.</p>
<p>In all my use of LinkedIn, I have still not paid them a dime. Which makes me a total cheapskate and ingrate. But I don&#8217;t need to pay them to get the value, which is tremendous. So I am still not totally sold on LinkedIn as a business. But that does not matter as I cannot buy their shares. I am totally sold on their value as a service.</p>
<p>LinkedIn recently gave me an RSS feed of events in my network that feeds up to my start-page. So I can read the latest tech news and see who my contacts have been meeting. The latter, being personal to my little corner of the world, is far more interesting. I know you can get that kind of thing with Facebook and FriendFeed (neither of which is for a &#8220;suit&#8221; like me). But in the business world, this is quite exciting.</p>
<p><em>Image credit: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cosmonautirussi/424368495/">cosmonautirussi</a></em></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Adwait Ullal on 2008-04-11</title>
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        <name>Adwait Ullal</name>
        <uri>http://www.adwait.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>But have you been able to really use it, especially in the last few days/weeks. It's been riddled with random errors, slow response and general usability issues which takes the charm out of using it</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-11T21:05:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Terra Andersen on 2008-04-11</title>
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        <name>Terra Andersen</name>
        <uri>http://www.betterforbusiness.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've used LinkedIn many times to find people for certain jobs I may have. It's an awesome resource, and it always helps that you can check on their recommendations or even speak to previous bosses and/or management. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-11T21:28:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ian Hendry on 2008-04-11</title>
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        <name>Ian Hendry</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br />
LinkedIn has its benefits, but this piece is completely correct in identifying that the benefis remain with the individual more than the business, in spite of it being a "business focused" social network.  Given that you can't tout your business effectively on it; its main purpose is recruitment rather than a marketing channel; and that if my staff are on it is to get hired, I am not sure what the benefit to my business of LinkedIn or XING is.  Yes, cheap hiring, but I also pay recruitment companies to sift the wheat from the chaff and do initiatal interviews, all of which I'd need to do myself.</p>

<p>As many users as LinkedIn and XING have, I can't help but think they'll need to introduce more for businesses to see why they should use them to ensure their long term survival.</p>

<p>Ian Hendry<br />
<a href="http://www.wecando.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.wecando.biz</a><br />
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    <published>2008-04-11T22:41:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Warren Benedetto on 2008-04-11</title>
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        <name>Warren Benedetto</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the last few months, I have been contacted by an increasing number of headhunters and recruiters, all through LinkedIn. Not sure how they're finding me (via connections or by some random searches), but I'm now up to 5-8 calls per week. </p>

<p>At first, I was flattered by the interest. But more and more, it's starting to become an annoyance. The problem is, they're almost always pitching on-site, full-time positions (sometimes requiring re-location), usually at well below my normal rates. </p>

<p>I'm feeling telemarketed-to, instead of recruited. So, a word of advice to headhunters: email first, gauge interest, then call. You'll get more substantive leads, and the people you are recruiting will feel a little less put-upon. (IMHO)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-12T01:15:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6086-comment:51773</id>
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    <title>Comment from p-air on 2008-04-11</title>
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        <name>p-air</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've been a long time user of LinkedIn for everything fm reaching out for business development deals, to introductions for friends, to executive searching for recruiting purposes.  I find it to be an excellent method and channel for reaching the right folks on all accounts.  While on the business relationship front it's been fine to use it for free leveraging my connections, for recruiting purposes the premium subscription is a must-have because you can reach out to any one.</p>

<p>I don't subscribe to the thought that it's only good for recruiting since I have used it successfully to establish business relationships well over a dozen times over the past 3-4 years.  Like any other channel one uses to establish relationships, it's important that the proposition be interesting and relevant to the person you're reaching out to.  In other words, if you don't do your homework prior to reaching out, the results will remain the same regardless of the medium you use.</p>

<p>It's also served as a great tool once I know someone or in preparation to meet someone, in order to have some sense of their background.  To me it's been an invaluable tool.<br />
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    <published>2008-04-12T05:50:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jo on 2008-04-12</title>
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        <name>Jo</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>1.  If you like LinkedIn, check out Xing.  It is Europe based and gives you access to a whole new territory</p>

<p>2.  You can find someone on LinkedIn if you are already connected in some way, that is, you, your immediate contacts, their contacts and their contacts (3 steps). In Xing, you can see your path to any one.   You are really no more than 6 steps away as the theory says and you can check all the ways you can reach them.  Which is just background information because you can email them directly.  It is pretty friendly and if you have something to offer, people reply.</p>

<p>3.  Recruiting is only ever as good as someone's knowledge of an industry.  We know what questions to ask by following an industry over time.  Recruiters should figure out how to get LinkeIn to pay them!</p>

<p>4.  LinkedIn has a company profile now that lets you check out the staffing track record of a company at an aggregate level.</p>

<p>5. Xing is publically-owned BTW.</p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

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    <published>2008-04-12T11:51:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nicole Simon on 2008-04-13</title>
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        <name>Nicole Simon</name>
        <uri>http://crueltobekind.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It is not only for recruiting, but also for finding freelancers as it gives you a reliable format for looking at qualifications and alike.</p>

<p>As such I find Xing to be much more relevant for me than linkedin; partly of course because being in Europe and especially Germany gives me an advantage with the userbase. </p>

<p>But even my brother, having barely a profile with a pic got picked up by headhunters because he was in the right town with the right profession. And with him it was a normal position, nothing management or alike.</p>

<p>It allows the employee to have some access to a wealth of connections and does not leave him or her at the hands of the employer, meaning empowerment. And this is a pandora's box - now that they have tasted the freedom, they will not want to come back any time soon ...</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-13T07:05:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Fu LI on 2008-04-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Fu LI</name>
        <uri>http://evildoerexposer.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/linkedin-is-evil-let-me-count-the-ways/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Linkedin has less ethics than a head hunter. A headhunter will not recruit out of the same companies they place people into. Linkedin will ask for job postings at the same time they sell your employees to recruiters. <br />
An individual is not the customer of Linkedin they are the product.</p>

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    <published>2008-04-30T20:56:02Z</published>
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