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    <published>2008-04-03T15:36:13Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-03T17:49:26Z</updated>
    <title>Study: There is No Tipping Point, Blog Readers Are Skeptical</title>
    <summary>A new study by Canadian research firm Pollara has surfaced data indicating that Malcolm Gladwell&apos;s popular theory about key influencers moving markets may not be valid. Gladwell&apos;s arguments in the 2000 book The Tipping Point had reached levels of cliche approaching The Wisdom of Crowds, in large part because of its seductiveness to marketers....</summary>
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      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image"><img alt="tippoint.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/tippoint.jpg" width="150" height="131" class="mt-image-left" style="float: left; margin: 0 20px 20px 0;"/></span>A new study by Canadian research firm <a href="http://www.pollara.ca/">Pollara</a> has surfaced data indicating that Malcolm Gladwell's popular theory about key influencers moving markets may not be valid.  Gladwell's arguments in the 2000 book <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=MMlxzMNkE_0C&dq=the+tipping+point&pg=PP1&ots=hgYCHFpzB6&sig=HWoXLyzGgh0cSyft2PHa9c9-mf4&hl=en&prev=http://www.google.com/search?q=the+tipping+point&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbnail">The Tipping Point</a> had reached levels of cliche approaching <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds">The Wisdom of Crowds</a>, in large part because of its seductiveness to marketers. <br />
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      <![CDATA[<p>A number of <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/122/is-the-tipping-point-toast.html">thinkers</a> (thanks for the link commenter <a href="http://comments.deasil.com/">felix</a>) and now the Pollara study have been arguing that large numbers of people do not make decisions based on the advice of a small number of powerful influencers.  The new data from Pollara does say that people use online social networks to make buying decisions, but they trust the advice of their friends and family on those networks far more than they do high-profile bloggers.  There are a number of things about blogging that may facilitate this, as well.</p>

<p>From <a href="http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=79873">MediaPost</a> today:<br />
<blockquote>Of more than 1,100 adults polled in December, nearly 80% said they were very or somewhat more likely to consider buying products recommended by real-world friends and family, while only 23% reported being very or somewhat likely to consider a product pushed by "well-known bloggers."</p>

<p>"This shows that popularity doesn't always equate to credibility," said Robert Hutton, executive vice president and general manager at Pollara. "Marketers might have to reconsider who the real influencers are out there." </blockquote></p>

<p>There are a couple of things we'd suggest need to be taken into consideration here, however.<br />
<ul><li>Popular bloggers still prime the pump, offering substantial visibility at a product or service's launch and leading to later, more credible recommendations from friends and family.</li><br />
<li>The quantity of blog posts may be a complicating factor.  Who can keep up with all the recommendations?  That quantity, as well as the job description of leading bloggers (to keep you excited about the new things they discover) also tend to lead to decreases in the quality of their recommendations.  Your friends and family probably aren't professional stuff-reviewers, so their recommendations are less frequent, less obligatory, less rushed to be first and ultimately more meaningful. The quality deficiency in the reviews of harried, high-volume bloggers can be so severe that many readers have said they only visit those blogs for the links to early-found resources.  They click through those links and make their own judgement, often not even reading the bloggers' thoughts on the subject.</li><br />
<li>The study concluded that strangers with 10,000 friends on MySpace provide less potent recommendations than do friends and family, also on MySpace.  We'd contend though that this is also a win for smaller social networks.  Not that we want to encourage marketer-types to flood quality communities like Multiply, Vox, Ning and FriendFeed, but...the smart ones will find appropriate ways to be visible there.  Can they do it more effectively than the many pathetic attempts to market in Twitter?  Maybe, but don't hold your breath.  The marketing world was really hoping they could just win over some existing social media power users and have everyone else fall like dominoes.  This study says that's not how it works.</li><br />
<li>The study is complicated by the fact that it focused on buying things.  The biggest blogs on the web aren't places readers go to find ways to spend money.  There's an almost rabid rejection in blog reading communities of anything that costs money, in fact.</li></ul></p>

<p>Times are changing and the connection between technology and social relations is one that many people are watching closely.  Facebook's theory that friend activity/endorsement is the best advertisement may be supported by this data.  Dr. Pepper's hiring Tay "Chocolate Rain" Zonday to record a TV commercial may look even more ridiculous than it did on face.</p>

<p>The rise of the power-blogger as super-influencer makes a fun story, especially when the mainstream media profiles them as individuals - but in reality bloggers are probably playing a different roll than that of tipping point influencer.  That's what we'd suggest that you think about the matter, at least!</p>

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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50947</id>
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    <title>Comment from Paul Dunay on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Paul Dunay</name>
        <uri>http://buzzmarketingfortech.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For your audience - I was able to leverage a friend of mine at Yahoo to get a podcast interview with Duncan Watts. His view makes a lot of sense - perhaps we marketers are having trouble letting go ...</p>

<p>check it out for yourself</p>

<p><a href="http://buzzmarketingfortech.blogspot.com/2008/02/influencers-shminfluencers-podcast-wi" rel="nofollow">http://buzzmarketingfortech.blogspot.com/2008/02/influencers-shminfluencers-podcast-wi</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:36:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50948</id>
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    <title>Comment from Dustin on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Dustin</name>
        <uri>http://writerstechnology.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<blockquote>only 23% reported being very or somewhat likely to consider a product pushed by "well-known bloggers." </blockquote>

<p>Assuming that this accurately reflects the study's methods, I don't find it very compelling at all. Here's teh thing: *<em>everyone</em> reports being uninfluenced by advertising, and they're clearly lying. I don't think we are very good judges of what influences us, and any research that relies on our ability to say what influences our buying decisions is deeply flawed. </p>

<p>There are research strategies that can track real behavior and real social networks (not just the online sort), but they're a lot messier than surveying people. But if you really want to look at how people make actual buying decisions -- and not what they <em>believe</em> about their own behavior -- you have to do that kind of tracking and forget about what people "report".</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:38:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-04-03</title>
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        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Paul, thanks for that link - very relevant.</p>

<p>Dustin, you are a smart man.  I bet *you're* not influenced by advertising or bloggers! :)  No, totally good points you've made.  The only thing less trustworthy than marketers or bloggers is survey data, perhaps! No, bloggers are much more trustworthy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:46:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Dustin on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Dustin</name>
        <uri>http://writerstechnology.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Don't get me wrong -- Gladwell might be totally wrong. But asing people who influences them isn't the way to find out whether he is or not. The other thing, these studies and the recent criticism (was it in Fast Company?) focuses on Influencers; I wonder why the Mavens and Connectors are being left alone? Do marketers not take that part very seriously?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:54:00Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50951</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dustin, Mavens and Connectors sound like they might take too long to deliver the money.  Might require real relationships to be built and some strategic thinking.  IHMO.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:55:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from chrispian on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>chrispian</name>
        <uri>http://www.chrispian.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this takes into account that my family and friends are influenced by me and I'm influenced by "big name bloggers". I'm not expert, but it seems pretty likely that early adopters and prominent people in their cliques influence people to buy things, who in turn influence people in their groups and so on. If not, they wouldn't use celebrities to hock products at us. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T16:56:04Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50954</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Chispian, did your mama teach you that?  (You know, family) Well, I think this data is contesting the actual effectiveness of that influence.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T17:02:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from felix on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>felix</name>
        <uri>http://comments.deasil.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That FastCompany piece on Duncan Watts (really good read) is here:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/122/is-the-tipping-point-toast.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/122/is-the-tipping-point-toast.html</a></p>

<p>I suspect, as usual, the reality lies somewhere in between. :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T17:36:36Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50956</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Felix, I'm going to add that link to the post.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T17:45:20Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50963</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mia on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mia</name>
        <uri>http://www.marketingmystic.typepad.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's a brilliant ploy, nothing gets more publicity than to disagree with a popular point of view and hitch your wagon to their success. I mean everyone knows Malcolm Gladwell and Tipping Point, how many have heard of Pollara (who?!)?</p>

<p>That aside, I think it's funny since I just blogged this morning about how I think Techcrunch might just be the Rainmaker of the online world :) </p>

<p>Simply put, there are two parts to making any purchase decision, one is awareness and second is the actual decision to purchase. Yes, the latter may be heavily influenced by friends and family. <br />
However, even if high-profile bloggers don't influence the ultimate purchase, they are highly influential in creating visibility for a new product/site. You can't buy that kind of publicity and let's not kid ourselves, if there's no awareness, there ain't gonna be any buying. <br />
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    <published>2008-04-03T18:12:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:50968</id>
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    <title>Comment from abm on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>abm</name>
        <uri>http://bizcast.typepad.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I conducted a study of brand monitoring technology for an EU telecom's internet division. We surveyed the startups in the sector that mined sentiment metrics and influence from the public corpus. I left the study unimpressed; at the same time, I was very impressed by the traditional brand equity agencies like Arbitron and Gallup.</p>

<p>People are a diverse bunch, and unpredictable. To say that certain CGM sources have influence is to discount the larger influencers of brand, mindshare or brand equity.</p>

<p>The new tools that try to out guess the guessers and provide guidance to brand owners have their work cut out for them once the honeymoon is over. But for determining influence? Next time you are at the supermarket shopping for food, ask those in line at the checkout , "excuse me, sir, madam, do you read blogs?"</p>

<p>Get ready for an eye opener. Not even on the public's radar.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T19:02:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Cory on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cory</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While this study does nothing to refute Gladwell's claim, it offers valuable customer insight for marketing professionals. I believe the key to reading this study is not in where the influencer resides (friends and family need to get their information from somewhere), but the key insights to this work consist of how consumers justify their buying decisions.</p>
<p>We've known for quite some time that relevance is important to online communications. Birthday messages outperform broadcast specials in email conversions every time. This study has nothing to do with who the influencer might be and everything to do with who the preferred influencer is. Clearly, consumers are getting brand and action messages from a multitude of distributed sources. Where they claim the final blow confirming their decision to purchase came from is inconsequential in terms of Gladwell's "The Tipping Point."</p>
<p>To take it one step further, this research only further validates Gladwell's claims in his subsequent book "Blink." The decision to buy or not is already made. Does it matter where credit for the decision comes from in the consumer's mind? We all rationalize decisions in our own way. This study indicates that we have some shared rationalizations - not influencers.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T21:25:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from magnoliasouth on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>magnoliasouth</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but bloggers have absolutely ZERO influence on my decision making, so naturally I agree with the study. I read the blogs for ideas, but definitely not for advice. Many times their just fun to read and see what's going on.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-03T22:29:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alex Iskold on 2008-04-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex Iskold</name>
        <uri>http://htt://www.adaptiveblue.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Marshall,</p>

<p>The tipping point is not just about bloggers pushing products. It is a general phenomenon for a spread of things as diverse as wild fire or decease or products. </p>

<p>The fact is that many things in nature follow this dynamics, it has been studied extensively in all disciplines and most recently by complexity scientists.</p>

<p>In this system bloggers are hubs for products much like they are hubs for news dissemination and essentially are the amplifiers that ultimately lead to the tipping point in the system.</p>

<p>However, the tipping point does not occur because people are influenced by bloggers, it occurs because people process information and disseminate it through the human network. So while people might not feel like they are influenced by the bloggers, they are still acquiring and spreading information about popular products, causing the tipping points.</p>

<p>Alex</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T01:54:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from LP on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>LP</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This sounds about right from a layman's perspective. In my recent travels through the blogosphere, it seems like a lot of bloggers aimed at marketing and "innovation" are actually consultants throwing out catch phrases to see if any of them stick. </p>

<p>For some reasons, certain blogs are aggregated and distributed in amounts that are out of proportion to the value of their content. I guess they are considered "hot" but if you actually browse them, it's like the emperor's new clothes...there's nothing there. </p>

<p>Blah, blah, blah, all talk with no substance or originality. People reporting on other people's ideas and generating little content that can't be found a lot other "trendsetter's" blog, there is a lot of repackaging. Why not trust those you know, either in real life or virtually rather that some blogger who usually has mixed motives in promoting some product or idea?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T11:54:25Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:51070</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mark Dykeman on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mark Dykeman</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the Pollara press release doesn't give much information about the characteristics of the population that was studied.  Assuming that it was a stereotypical random sample, you could argue that blogs and bloggers haven't hit the mainstream enough to have influencer status outside of the blogosphere.</p>

<p>Me, I see that as an opportunity.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T16:01:36Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6026-comment:51076</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sean Mulholland on 2008-04-04</title>
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        <name>Sean Mulholland</name>
        <uri>http://www.seanmulholland.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>With regards to The Tipping Point, the whole influencer thing is kind of funky in its main premise, that a select few hipsters/trendsetters/whoever can suddenly spark a trend because they're oh-so-cool.  Not to sound pompous, but I tend to check out the edgiest shows I can in SF (where I live), as well as LA and NYC whenever I'm in town.  Yeah, there are some broad trends, but nobody, not even the guys on stage, are going to make stupid crap popular just because all the hipsters want to be first to pick up on the 'next thing'.</p>

<p>And in all honesty, when non-hipsters see all us goofballs walking around in our skinny jeans and sneakers, you don't find them all of a sudden running to the nearest vintage shop trying to dress that way :-)</p>

<p>Same could be said about the online world.  Rick-Rolling and LOL-Catz are good examples.  It didn't take influencers to make that meme happen, it was just funny as hell and rose on its own merits, more or less organically.</p>

<p>Influencers might disseminate the information, but the trend rises more on its own merits than anything IMO...and probably would rise even if the influencers were nowhere to be found.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T17:39:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alex Nesbitt on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex Nesbitt</name>
        <uri>http://www.digitalpodcast.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This strikes me as a combination of flawed insight into what the data is really saying (and what it is not) and a failure by reporters to challenge the headlines of press releases.</p>

<p>There is nothing that I can see in the data from this study that has been reported that says who starts things.  All it says is who people heard it from.  Since most of us hear most things from our family and friends it is an absolute certainty that we will be swayed by our friends more frequently.  It's just simple probability at work.</p>

<p>And as for the headline that there is No Tipping Point, you are completely confusing the process of information spread and the role of "influencers".  Nobody, not even Duncan Watts, is saying that there are not tipping points to a viral process.  There are certainly tipping points in any viral process.  At question is the the starting point and what role the influencer plays in the starting point.</p>

<p>Duncan's research suggests that bad stuff goes nowhere no matter who starts the process and that ANYONE can be the starting point of a trend or viral information spread when it perceived as great to share.  Hence, the diminished role of influencers.</p>

<p>But his simulations assume that we all share stuff at the same rate, which is just not true.</p>

<p>Super Fans/Influencers share things with many more people many more times than the rest of us.   The probabilities that they will be the origins of more trends follows straight from this.</p>

<p>To use Duncan Watt's analogy of a forest fire, any match is just as likely as any other match to start the fire.  But when one person throws out 100 matches they are much more likely to start the fire than the person who just throws out one match.</p>

<p>It's the same with ideas, If you take 100 ideas with the same likelyhood of going viral, then the person who shares 50 ideas to 50 people will mostly likely start more viral information flows than someone who shares 1 idea with 10 people.</p>

<p>Alex<br />
Digital Podcast</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T18:53:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Paul Chaney on 2008-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Paul Chaney</name>
        <uri>http://www.conversationalmediamarketing.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When you look back over the history of blogging, its chief cornerstones were transparency and authenticity. You could trust that a blogger was telling you exactly what was on his/her mind. Whether you agreed with their opinion or not, you know they weren't motivated by monetary gain, as there was none of that then. </p>

<p>Blogs were thought of as the "last form of honest advertising." Of course, that's before marketers laid hold of it. Now...well, I guess the statistics bear out the fact that's no longer the case. What a shame. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-04T20:12:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jim Durbin on 2008-04-06</title>
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        <name>Jim Durbin</name>
        <uri>http://www.brandstorming.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Duncan Watts is one of many science of network researchers in a long history  - his work neither proves nor disproves the evidence of Tipping Points. </p>

<p>Gladwell, on the other hand, is a writer.  He writes very well, but he is not a researcher. </p>

<p>There is a lot going on behind the scenes, and far too much  of it is done by other writers (like Fast Company) and bloggers who do their research with Google or by picking up the latest issue of Fast Company.  </p>

<p>Here's the basic facts - influencers do exist, but they are not universal.  They're specific to what you're trying to influence. Thus, listening to Terry Bradshaw talk about being a quarterback makes sense, but listening to Terry Bradshaw talk about stocks is a different matter.  We cannot predict when a network effect will occur, but we can measure when it has occurred.</p>

<p>The problems with these studies (like the chain letter one) is they measure certain variables, and then researches draw broad conclusions that are picked up only in part by the reporters.  It's one of the reasons that science reporting is so dismal.  Headlines get you publicity, which get you grants and book deals.  That's not the same as pure research that advances the theory. <br />
  <br />
What's really happening is marketers cling to theories that make it easy for them to make money by selling their services, as does everyone else.</p>

<p>As for that terrible idea of a study - bloggers are influential inside their blog communities, just as friends are influential with their friends.  The problem is that an influential blogger shouldn't be measured by traffic or links.  That more often than not measures the ability of the blogger to network, uh, socially.  </p>

<p>If a blog gets only 200 uniques a day, but the visitors buy 50% of what he recommends, is he more or less influential than the blogger with 5,000 uniques, but only 1% of what he  recommends, people buy?</p>

<p>A-list bloggers don't drive product buys except through anecdotal evidence.  And the plural of anecdote isn't data.   </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-06T11:26:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Heuer on 2008-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris Heuer</name>
        <uri>http://chrisheuer.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It may well be argued that "Bloggers" as a stereotypical group have zero influence over society as a whole, but individual's whose opinions are trusted on certain subjects (like whether or not to by the MacBook Air or wait till the next rev) certainly do.  This is what is left out of the conversation, to our own detriment - that is the question of trusted about what?</p>

<p>Besides, if even 5% of the people out there trust a few bloggers for certain types of recommendations, and they tell two friends who trust them.... it is a carry forward sort of world in which word of mouth spreads.  I think the challenge has been with the utopians who say stop everything else you are doing and focus all your efforts on bloggers.  Blogs are only one way to garner awareness for what you are doing, making certain influentials more visible and more accesible.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-08T21:09:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Slowblogger on 2008-04-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>Slowblogger</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Gladwell's arguments in the 2000 book The Tipping Point had reached levels of cliche approaching The Wisdom of Crowds, in large part because of its seductiveness to marketers."</p>

<p>I find the statement very misleading. It should be the other way around. The Wisdom of Crowds was published a few years later than The Tipping Point. And it has not made people think and debate as much as The Tipping Point has.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-11T08:25:52Z</published>
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