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    <published>2008-05-14T18:27:23Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-14T18:28:50Z</updated>
    <title>Did Twitter Really &apos;Outshine&apos; the Mainstream Press?</title>
    <summary>We love Twitter just as much as any tech bloggers -- that should be clear to anyone who has read this blog over the past six months. But stories like this one from the AFP are a bit rankling. Writing about how Twitter had news of this week&apos;s deadly China earthquake as it happened, the...</summary>
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      <name>Josh Catone</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/twitter-broadcast.jpg" width="150" height="63" />We love <a href="http://www.twitter.com/">Twitter</a> just as much as any tech bloggers -- that should be clear to anyone who has read this blog over the past six months.  But stories like <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080514/tc_afp/uschinaitinternetmediaearthdisastertwitter;_ylt=AkckGyZiEsYrni_6qKO_Abz6VbIF">this one</a> from the AFP are a bit rankling.  Writing about how Twitter had news of this week's deadly China earthquake as it happened, the AFP implies that this is a case of "micro-blogging outshining mainstream news."  Outshine, as in "to surpass in splendor, ability, achievement, excellence" (Dictionary.com), is not something that I think Twitter did to the mainstream press.  And the bigger issue: they're not in competition.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The only thing Twitter does better than the traditional news is speed.  It doesn't do depth, it doesn't do fact-checking, it doesn't do real reporting.  It does breaking news, and it does that very well -- in many cases these days better than the mainstream press (in terms of how fast it breaks news).</p>

<p>Twitter did indeed have news of the China earthquake before the press -- and that's not the first time it has beaten the press to a major story.  It did the same for the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/earthquake_in_uk_news_broken_on_twitter.php">UK earthquake</a> earlier this year, or the <a href="http://www.zoliblog.com/2008/03/23/earthquake-in-japan-twitter-reports-first-again/">other China earthquake</a> in March, and the <a href="http://scobleizer.com/2007/04/12/mexico-city-earthquake-reported-on-twitter-first/">Mexico quake last year</a>.  But Twitter doesn't beat the press or the USGS to specific information about the size, the scale, the death toll, the clean up efforts.  It can't do in depth reporting that adds a human face to news events.</p>

<p>Twitter reporting looks <a href="http://tweetip.tumblr.com/post/34518599">like this</a>:  "I felt an earthquake" -- "WOW: was that an earthquake??" -- "earthquake!!!!!!" -- "earthquake in Beijing so crazy!" etc.</p>

<p>Those tweets came in moments after the earthquake happened -- or perhaps in some cases while it was still happening.  But beyond confirming that there was something going on in China, they didn't tell us much.</p>

<p>The real problem with saying things like "Twitter outshined the mainstream new" is that it implies that the two are in competition.  They're not.  Twitter is a tool.  We've talked about it as <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_rise_of_twitter_as_a_platform_for_serious_discourse.php">a platform for information dissemination</a> and we've talked about <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twitter_for_journalists.php">ways that journalists can use it</a>.  And that's really the rub: journalists can use Twitter, they shouldn't feel threatened by it, as it would seem the AFP reporter does.</p>

<p>Twitter is great because it is distributed -- it puts eyes and ears on the ground everywhere.  Everyone is a potential witness to breaking news and Twitter gives people a platform to discuss what they see.  The mainstream press should embrace Twitter and use it to source and enhance their news coverage; they should not worry about being outshined by it.  Twitter will never outshine the mainstream press as long as reporters continue to do what they do best -- get on the ground, talk to the right people, find out what's really going on, and deliver what they find with as much depth as possible.  Twitter will never be able to do that, but it can certainly play a major role in helping reporters get it done.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"...Twitter will never outshine the mainstream press..."</p>

<p>Mmmm, I wouldn't speak too soon on that one. The mythical "video Twitter" is out there somewhere, being beta tested secretly. Mix in some Qik.com style live video streaming from a location aware Android phone - all in the hands of millions of people worldwide - and you may have mainstream press in check mate.</p>

<p>Twitter Haters STFU, et alia</p>

<p>;)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T18:51:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Josh Catone on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <name>Josh Catone</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Todd: Even so, I don't think Twitter will ever outshine the press at what the press is good at, which is in depth reporting and access.  The press just needs to get back to basics and stop trying to be sensational and super fast.  </p>

<p>I read a good blog post yesterday called "How to Fix the News" (here: <a href="http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/deadnews">http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/deadnews</a> )...</p>

<p>Basically: don't dumb it down, go into as much depth as possible, cover from all angles, and be conversational.  Those are not all things that Twitter can do -- though Twitter can be a part of it.  I think the mainstream press can evolve to embrace and use Twitter, but it shouldn't worry about being replaced by Twitter.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T19:20:36Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Sean Mulholland on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <name>Sean Mulholland</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Todd - Drink the kool-aid much? ;-)</p>

<p>I'm all for the web-happy future view of community driven [[insert anything not community controlled here]].  It's always nice to feel like we're taking power back from the man.</p>

<p>Problem is this...when the press is the people, are the people any good at it?  The terms 'groupthink' and 'design by committee' come to mind.</p>

<p>Maybe if something like, "OMG SOMETHING HAPPENED AND YOU KNOW FASTER THAN ANYONE!!!11" is journalism, then yes, it might work.  But speed is not journalism.</p>

<p>And will shaky, low quality, handheld cellphone videos improve that at all :-)</p>

<p>By far the greatest examples of journalism are not centered around knowing something first, but rather by knowing something best.  "Breaking news" != good news.</p>

<p>For example, the Fortune articles on Steve Jobs a few months back...they were incredibly well done.  And, in the editors notes, they took around six months to complete, with the groundwork being laid in Summer 2007.  It involved interviews with dozens of people, deep research, etc.</p>

<p>Too much community news is, IMO, equivalent to too much useless information.  I'm sure one can cherrypick examples of how it beats the mainstream in some way or another, but when those examples represent what, like 0.001% of the total volume, does that really make a strong case for invalidating the media?</p>

<p>After all, video never quite managed to kill the radio star :-)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T19:41:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nick Booth on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <name>Nick Booth</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Isn't this a statement of the obvious?  </p>

<p>I think one thing that twitter does provide during a breaking news story is a connection - a sense of a shared involvement in news and an opportunity to facet check with each other.  TV and radio tend to provide a shared observation of news.  Different experiences.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T21:10:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jacob morgan on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <name>jacob morgan</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,</p>

<p>I agree with you, I think the AFP article are giving twitter a little too much credit.  Granted twitter does have the advantage of speed I don't think it can really be said to have outshined traditional news.  There is still something to be said about the journalist interviewee relationship.  Twitter definitely does not provide for this relationship.  </p>

<p>It will be interesting to see how twitter evolves and how journalism and the news will adapt and embrace social technologies.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T23:08:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from William Fernandez on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <name>William Fernandez</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Although it is obvious to some, you make some good points here. Specifically, the semantics issue ("outshined") was one that I gave some thought to when I read the original article. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-14T23:35:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from rambn on 2008-05-14</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>with current outages, twitter couldn't outshine a turd. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-15T01:09:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from drkelley on 2008-05-15</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"The only thing Twitter does better than the traditional news is speed. It doesn't do depth, it doesn't do fact-checking, it doesn't do real reporting."</p>

<p>Given the current state of so-called "journalism", I would have to say that the traditional news sources aren't exactly brilliant in their depth, fact-checking, or real reporting, either.</p>

<p>The truth is, those in the profession who we call "reporters" or "journalists" are really no better equipped to report on events than the man on the street is: they're both just average people. The advantage of a local "man-on-the-street" reporter is that they generally have better knowledge of the local area - culturally, geographically, socially - than does an outside "reporter", and can provide a more realistic perspective of breaking events.</p>

<p>The real problem with Twitter is being able to sort out those sources that are truly providing informative news from those providing trivial detail. Hmmm... just like the traditional news.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-15T16:08:44Z</published>
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