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    <published>2008-05-24T14:45:01Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-24T07:59:43Z</updated>
    <title>Facebook Will Be the Mainstream Everything</title>
    <summary>Whenever a new product comes out that has the early adopter set all atwitter -- like say, Twitter, for example -- there is a certain amount of discussion devoted to when or if the product will go mainstream. Sometimes we&apos;re not even sure if a new web app or service maybe already has reached the...</summary>
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      <name>Josh Catone</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com/</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/facebook-logo.jpg" width="100" height="35" />Whenever a new product comes out that has the early adopter set all atwitter -- like say, Twitter, for example -- there is a certain amount of discussion devoted to when or if the product will go mainstream.  Sometimes we're not even sure if a new web app or service maybe already <em>has</em> reached the masses.   A lucky few new web apps will cross the proverbial chasm into the mainstream, but most won't.  Some those that don't will nonetheless see their ideas co-opted by a site that is already undeniably mainstream -- Facebook.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>A lot of sites that early adopters love probably won't fly with the mainstream because those users are a tougher sell.  While most readers of this blog (early adopters) are willing to try a large number of new services each year, month, or even week, most casual users of the web can't be bothered.  It takes a lot more to get them to invest time into a new service.</p>

<p>Facebook, on the other hand, has already captured the collective mind share of the mainstream and can take the good ideas set forth by early adopter hits and repackage them in ways that their users are more apt to consume.</p>

<p><a href="http://publisher.yahoo.com/rss/RSS_whitePaper1004.pdf">A study (PDF)</a> by Yahoo! and Ipsos Insight in 2005, found that at the time only 4% of Internet users had knowingly used RSS, but another 27% used it via start pages like MyYahoo! without being aware of what it was.  I'm willing to bet that those numbers have improved, but I am also willing to bet that a similarly low percentage of Facebook users would know what a lifestream was -- even though they use one every day with the Facebook Mini-Feed.</p>

<h2>Don't Look Now, But Facebook is Eating Your Lunch</h2>

<p>Facebook has status updates that you can <a href="http://www.allfacebook.com/2008/05/facebook-enters-twitter-territory/">update via SMS</a> (watch out Twitter), they have a news feed that now <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebooks_lifestream_adds_more_services.php">accepts 12 outside inputs</a> (watch out FriendFeed), they have the <a href="http://www.facebook.com/press/info.php?statistics">biggest photo sharing site on the web</a> (watch out Flickr), they have a <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_launches_chat.php">built in chat application</a> (watch out Meebo).  These features were all added as an after thought.  Facebook has taken the most buzzed about early adopter-targeted applications, and turned them into features for the mainstream.</p>

<p><img border="0" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/facebook-lunch.jpg" align="right" width="180" height="201" />But Facebook keeps my data locked up, you might say.  FriendFeed gives me an RSS feed of my activity stream, Twitter does the same thing, and both sites have an API.  Those are good points, but not for the average web user, who will more often than not respond with, "Who cares?" or "I don't know what the words you just said mean..."</p>

<p>It might be ironic that Facebook is porting data in from outside services, but not making it easy for users to go the other way with data created inside Facebook.  But for most users, that thought probably doesn't ever occur.  Most users don't care what's under the hood, they just care that a service does what they want or expect it to.  Mainstream users aren't asking Facebook for data portability. That their status updates have to stay in Facebook doesn't matter.</p>

<p>In 2006, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/social/?p=43">Marc Canter said</a>, "Users do care [about data portability] if for no other reason than they're lazy and they don't (want) to have to create all those relationships and upload their photos -- all over again."  I think, though, that he's actually not right.  My unscientific survey of one average web user tonight led me to believe that mainstream users don't care about the things that early adopters do.  Even after explaining what data portability was and its benefits, the response I got was, "So what? In the past 5 years I've used 3 social networks -- Friendster, MySpace, and Facebook.  I change services so infrequently, and the sign up process is so easy, taking my data with me doesn't seem like something I really need."</p>

<p>My guess is that mainstream users, by and large, are fine with their data staying in one place.</p>

<p>Of course that's also not the point.  Data portability is important, and some day, because early adopters pushed for it, mainstream users won't say, "So what?" they'll say, "It's really cool that all my Facebook contacts are automatically in Yahoo! Mail," all the while still not really being aware of the concepts behind data portability.  In the meantime, though, Facebook is taking the ideas that early adopters love, and co-opting them into features that mainstream users will learn to love, without mucking about with all those things that early adopters demand. (That's the point.)</p>

<h2>Conclusion</h2>

<p>I'm going to paraphrase something my colleague Sarah Perez said to me in a conversation discussing this post a couple of days ago.  Facebook seems to have been built to let the entirety of web 2.0 flow into it.  News feed (FriendFeed), status (Twitter), platform (web 2.0 apps/services), etc., Facebook is all about taking web 2.0 to the average, casual web user.</p>

<p>Will FriendFeed and Twitter go mainstream?  You bet.  But it will very likely be as features on Facebook.  A commenter on our post yesterday about Facebook's new profile design <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_new_profile_dev_sandbox.php#55866">noticed that</a> the new design makes Facebook feel like an operating system.  That's an astute observation and it seems to be where Facebook wants to go.  Web 2.0 will flow through Facebook, and Facebook will become the mainstream everything.  Will users stand for it?  Early adopters certainly won't unless Facebook makes it easy to get out what we put in, but mainstream users might just let it happen (and probably won't really realize that it is happening).</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Tate on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kevin Tate</name>
        <uri>http://www.stepchangegroup.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great observations.</p>

<p>I think you might be giving Facebook a little too much credit based on their current ability to integrate and package these services - but I have a feeling a significant step forward is coming soon.</p>

<p>Reading your post, an analogy came to mind:</p>

<p>"Facebook is like AOL for Web 2.0"</p>

<p>...not a perfect analogy, but it's fun to draw the parallels.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T15:35:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Hashim Warren on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Hashim Warren</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The contact list in our email apps are all the data portability most users want/need</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T15:44:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jamie on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jamie</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This myth about Facebook locking in your data is getting tired. It's not perfect, but there is plenty of information there that can be taken elsewhere.</p>

<p>- Notes/posted items are exportable as RSS<br />
- Imported RSS into the News Feed is exportable as RSS<br />
- Both your Status Updates and those of your friends are available as RSS feeds (in fact, I put this feed into FriendFeed)<br />
- Events are available in iCal format.<br />
- The Facebook Platform API exposes a lot more of this stuff for developers, including contact information</p>

<p><br />
There is essentially nothing you can do on Twitter in regards to being "open" that you can't on Facebook.  And the Twitter Mobile Api doesn't even allow paging! </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T16:01:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from NetEx on 2008-05-24</title>
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        <name>NetEx</name>
        <uri>http://www.netvibes.com/netviberexperience</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post !</p>

<p>Microsoft=PC -> Google=Web -> Facebook=Web2.0 -> ???=mobile</p>

<p>Who will be ???</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T16:02:53Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:55909</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alexander van Elsas on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alexander van Elsas</name>
        <uri>http://vanelsas.wordpress.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Josh, they would first effectively have t deal with all the complexity that each of these services bring along. The tech elite already complains about the "noise" that web 2.0 services bring us. I doubt the average Internet or Facebook user will care enough about such services to actively manage the noise they produce. Most likely adding all services to Facebook won't lead to more usage. Instead the services will likely be ignored, and the Facebook user will use the core features only.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T17:18:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from zack on 2008-05-24</title>
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        <name>zack</name>
        <uri>http://www.finedigg.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>slightly exaggerated, similar features are available in other sites too, facebook is little ahead of them, that's it. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T17:21:25Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Christopher Aycock on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Christopher Aycock</name>
        <uri>http://www.chrisaycock.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Nintendo Wii is a "closed" and "locked" platform too, but the sales figures show that users don't care. It's all about the experience.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T18:01:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Q dub on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Q dub</name>
        <uri>http://qwang.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>AOL analogies are off the mark, while both sites are closed-portals, AOL really failed because it relied on internal content which didn't stand a chance to the collective creative of the rest of the internet.  Facebook is a aggregator of UGC, generated inside and outside of the portal.</p>

<p>So AOL failed because it didn't allow information to flow in or out, but Facebook is critically different in allowing information to flow in.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T18:12:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Francesco on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Francesco</name>
        <uri>http://www.xenfra.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Websites now a day are adopting a new feature of providing a lot of additional applications like music player, video player on their websites to attract more traffic. The good thing is that the traffic is attracted because of the all new features of the websites.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T19:58:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Matthew O-G on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Matthew O-G</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to point this out because you've been saying so much about how you can import feeds from other sites when you have been able to do this before with apps for those other sites and make them publish to your news-feed. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T20:31:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from JP on 2008-05-24</title>
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        <name>JP</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>True. Average users don´t have a clue about this things.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T20:51:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from xgravity23 on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>xgravity23</name>
        <uri>http://xgravity23.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Um, Facebook had the status option looong before Twitter. In fact, when I as first introduced to Twitter, I immediately thought, "Oh, like Facebook's status, without Facebook." If anything, some of these other services who won't go mainstream because FB did it first or does it better. I don't know for sure because I never used FB mobile, but I'm pretty sure you could update your FB status via mobile before Twitter even had 10k users.</p>

<p>"They have the biggest photo sharing site on the web (watch out Flickr)" </p>

<p>Why would any social network not support photo sharing? And why would users of such a social network want to direct friends and family to yet another website to see pictures? It seems natural for FB to offer photo sharing services, and also natural that its huge user-base would make its share of the photos being shared on the web huge. </p>

<p>But who would even begin to call FB a "photo sharing site"? That's too restrictive a label. FB is about social networking and that naturally includes things like sharing photos.</p>

<p>I haven't been a RWW reader for long, but *clears throat, looks a little awkward* uh, your bias is showing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T22:09:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from The Masked Millionaire on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>The Masked Millionaire</name>
        <uri>http://www.TheMaskedMillionaire.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think I have put it off long enough.  I need to buy a book that will teach me how to use Facebook.  </p>

<p>If anyone knows of a good book I can find on Amazon...please let me know.</p>

<p>The Masked Millionaire</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T23:29:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jon on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jon</name>
        <uri>http://wordout.computergeekservices.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Facebook hasn't nearly the momentum of MySpace. Personally, I don't care for either, but Facebook's number of users is only a fraction that of MySpace. And MySpace has the status, pictures, blah blah ad infinitum. So Facebook being so big in the future is a question in my mind.</p>

<p>But inasmuch as users not caring: my own unscientific polling agrees with yours. The users won't care, only because they haven't been thinking about for years like we have. But that says nothing about how they'll feel or think several years from now.</p>

<p>I wonder: Do early adopters of web tech have a responsibility to work towards any particular societal mores? If the 'mainstream user' doesn't care, should we? (Damn there goes one of my future posts to a bunch of bloggers...)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-24T23:35:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Josh Catone on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh Catone</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@xgravity23:  They had the news feed before FriendFeed, too.  But they've recently started co-opting the killer features from that service (like ability to import feeds from outside services).  Their status app only <a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=2334332130">took center stage</a> and added Twitter-like features such as update by SMS <i>after</i> Twitter started getting buzzy.</p>

<p>If you want to substitute MySpace, that's fine as well (though MySpace seems significantly less agile than Facebook, imho, and is playing catch-up in a lot of these places).  The point, though, was that the battle to take a lot of web 2.0 services to the mainstream, is really a battle between sites like Facebook and MySpace, not between FriendFeed and Socialthing and [insert your favorite lifestream aggregator here], etc.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T00:00:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Master William on 2008-05-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Master William</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Facebook Status Updates were around April 2006, before Twitter.  </p>

<p>So status updates and feeds were already mainstream before FF and Twitter came to existence.</p>

<p>I do see what you are saying though, but we need to establish that FB isn't just copying these features. They had them first. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T02:07:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from gregory on 2008-05-24</title>
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        <name>gregory</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>facebook has zero value for me, and yet i feel fully connected to the universe, even the tech replica one, so i am trying to see a counter argument here</p>

<p>after all it is not these objects called social media that are important, it is the subject, the me in side which uses them to flow into the world, or to let the world flow into me</p>

<p>and they are too chunky, too gross, too coarse-grained, too bulky and awkward and derivative and clunky and odd shaped, when compared to my daily inner experience ... it is sort of like your child pounding on the pots, compared to the sublimity of the symphony</p>

<p>so this discussion is probably way too early, and i really doubt that facebook will be mainstream anything ... it is all too approximate, too coarse of a replica of life, to have much "livingness", or even become essential</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T04:09:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:55967</id>
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    <title>Comment from publicidad en internet on 2008-05-25</title>
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        <name>publicidad en internet</name>
        <uri>http://www.youtube.com/publicidadeninternet</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi!, Great Post. But with the recent rumor that Google is interested in buying FaceBook, the whole world would reduced to Google.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T16:07:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:55974</id>
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    <title>Comment from Deepa on 2008-05-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Deepa</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You make some good points, but I have to completely agree with comment #7. It really is all about the experience, especially when it comes to those who aren't quite as tech savvy. Sadly, a lot of people really have no idea as to what Flickr and FriendFeed are. It was a shock to me too. Many people really will look at the looks and ease of use, that's about it. And Facebook is fairly easy to use, until you start looking deeper into it. For those who aren't tech savvy, all the options may seem a little overwhelming. That's the only thing that Facebook may have going against it, though I appreciate being able to selectively choose who gets to see what on my profile.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T17:32:48Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from martin on 2008-05-25</title>
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        <name>martin</name>
        <uri>http://phaidon.philo.at/martin/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>basically it's about metaphors. what is the metaphor one uses for "being on/in the Web"? it could be "search", or "conversation", or "me & my friends", or even "research", or "writing oneself into existence" (eg. via Twitter). or some combination, of course. and yes, most people define themselves as "social" in a quite simple way (to avoid the term "primitive"). like "e-mail" (another social metaphor) still being the killer app of the Internet, at least here in Germany, which is admittedly a late adopting country. so i fear Josh may turn out to be right.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T20:23:38Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:55993</id>
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    <title>Comment from Falafulu Fisi on 2008-05-25</title>
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        <name>Falafulu Fisi</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Gregory said...<br />
<i>facebook has zero value for me...</i></p>

<p>I feel the same Gregory. I haven't joined any social networking site and I have no idea if I will ever join. Talking about connecting with friends over a social networking site? I don't want to hook up with so called long lost friends from high school days. If I've lost them since high school days, it means that we're not friends. Our interests had been going in separate ways and they're very likely to be very different from mine. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T21:17:50Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:55995</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tell on 2008-05-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tell</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>An app that will never go mainstream for sure is Friendfeed. I'm getting sick of all the posts on them. Friendfeed is adressing bloggers' need to expose themselves as much as they can. The overwhelming information kills information. Their interface sucks. Their rooms are poor. Their sharing system is 90's one. Friendfeed was made for bloggers and they are grateful for that. But I am laughing at the consideration of them being mainstream one day. As for Facebook trying to be everything, I think that it will end up in being nothing. If you add features that were not conceived to work all together in the beginning it is a real challenge to have a compelling interface. By the way, Facebook doesn't have.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-25T21:42:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:56020</id>
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    <title>Comment from sull on 2008-05-25</title>
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        <name>sull</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>google should have been working on expanding their gmail product to encompass much of what you see in facebook today.<br />
that is to say.... do a better job merging in functionality and nice user features into the hub that is gmail (with a better name.. although "facebook" is a horrible name).<br />
Google Hub doesnt exist.  it should.  it could.  but it's all too spread out and loose.  Not enough google effort has gone into providing regular users the type of singular service/destination.  that is why facebook as been successful since opening up to outside the collegesphere.</p>

<p>twitter i see as having the potential to be the primary general short-messaging system on the internet that will integrate into just about everything else.  so comparing facebook and twitter cannot be done, even if facebook offers similar features... it is not and i dont think will be the standard platform for short messaging.  twitter should hold on to that role.  </p>

<p>friendfeed, on the other hand, is more similar to facebook and i think will continue to become more similar in the coming months.  Facebook and FriendFeed will probably be talked about alot in the same vein.  FriendFeed has a good chance of becoming the better of the two especially once their API gets more widely adopted by 3rd party developers.    </p>

<p>To me, Facebook has a lot of junk that i, a 33 year old technologist, do not appreciate.  I dont like the UI, i dont like the features, i dont like how community is handled within, i am not keen how the company does things and honestly dont feel like their is much reason for me to ever login and use the thing.  I feel much better about Twitter and FriendFeed... and personally enjoy using Tumblr as well.  Tumblr and Twitter are currently the main services I use and FriendFeed can mesh things for me while also giving me another platform to communicate on.  </p>

<p>Facebook could go away for all I care.<br />
I wont even bother mentioning Myspace.</p>

<p>In the future, i hope we all just host our own shit and connect to each other via tracker servers that we broadcast to.  We don't really need most of these companies to do what they are doing.  they just bring flavor and instant connectivity to large groups of people and noise.  <br />
At some point, a circle will be completed.<br />
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    <published>2008-05-26T03:29:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:56038</id>
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    <title>Comment from George Koiliaris on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>George Koiliaris</name>
        <uri>http://www.wadja.com/petty01</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@NetEx</p>

<p>Microsoft=PC -> Google=Web -> Facebook=Web2.0 -> <b>Wadja.com</b>=mobile</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T10:35:15Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6389-comment:56054</id>
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    <title>Comment from Amir on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Amir</name>
        <uri>http://colnect.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>FaceBook actually solved one important problem - users are tired of registering to new services. In FaceBook, once they have the profile, they're registered to all services with two click. It's like the Web2.0 OpenID just that as a user you don't even think about it or the fact you're giving away private information to external service providers.</p>

<p>As a service provider, the motivation to build a FaceBook 'application' is obvious. It can be your complete website inside a FaceBook frame and you get the benefit of having the user's data.</p>

<p>My prediction is that FaceBook will eventually be also available as an OS application that identifies you when you agree to it and some icon in your tray that pops up notifications from whichever applications you have installed.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T16:13:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from stephanie on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>stephanie</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am in complete agreement that Facebook is useless to the majority of the population, and despite arguments that propose all the functionality that has been provided through apps, it is still just a place where high schoolers and college kids self promot (like a personal vanity plate) and communicate, the way some of us used phones or emails or text in our generation.  </p>

<p>As I read from someone before (cannot recall who so I am sorry for not giving credit), the heart of social networking must be a sense of purpose or relevant to the audience - and the bulk of the audience, which i see as anyone over 25, has a life full of significant issues and the desire for happiness and fulfillment.  </p>

<p>So the debate I would like to start here is~  What would the idea "social media" concept provide for you that overcomes that triviality of facebook and myspace?  I would love to hear what folks have to say!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T20:30:16Z</published>
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