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    <published>2008-05-26T17:33:12Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-26T20:53:10Z</updated>
    <title>Semantic Tagging with Faviki</title>
    <summary>Faviki is a new social bookmarking tool that offers something that services like Ma.gnolia, del.icio.us, and Diigo do not - semantic tagging capabilities. What this means is that instead of having users haphazardly entering in tags to describe the links they save, Faviki will suggest tags to be used instead. However, unlike other services, Faviki&apos;s...</summary>
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      <name>Sarah Perez</name>
      <uri>http://www.sarahintampa.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/faviki_001.png"><a href="http://www.faviki.com/">Faviki</a> is a new social bookmarking tool that offers something that services like <a href="http://ma.gnolia.com/">Ma.gnolia</a>, <a href="http://del.icio.us">del.icio.us</a>, and <a href="http://www.diigo.com/">Diigo</a> do not - semantic tagging capabilities. What this means is that instead of having users haphazardly entering in tags to describe the links they save, Faviki will suggest tags to be used instead. However, unlike other services, Faviki's suggestions don't just come from a community of users and their tagging history, but from structured information extracted straight out of the Wikipedia database.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>About Faviki</h2>

<p>Faviki's backend uses <a href="http://www.dbpedia.org">DBpedia</a>, a community-maintained database created by extracting structured info from Wikipedia and turning that into a database which you can query. (You can read our previous coverage on DBpedia <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/where_to_find_open_data_on_the.php">here</a>).</p>

<p>This means that instead of just being words, the tags in this data model become references to objects which are categorized automatically. An example from the <a href="http://faviki.wordpress.com/">Faviki blog</a> cited an example using the tag &quot;Coca-Cola.&quot; An item you tagged with this concept would actually reference the unique URL <a href="http://dbpedia.org/data/Coca-Cola">http://dbpedia.org/data/Coca-Cola</a> (the tag is the last part of that URL). Under other tagging systems, the same item may have been tagged with <em>cocacola, coca-cola, coca+cola, CocaCola,</em> but in Faviki, it's simply &quot;Coca-Cola.&quot; And because the tags structure is already emanating from the largest collection of concepts in the world - <a href="http://wikiepedia.org">Wikipedia</a> - their format is already standardized and agreed upon by the community. </p>

<h2>Using Faviki</h2>

<p>Despite Faviki's lofty goals, it's just as easy to use as any other bookmarking service. Once you sign up, you can install a browser bookmarklet which you can use to save links and tag them. You can also search your tags or click through the site's tag cloud to view some of the most popular saved links from the Faviki community. </p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/faviki.png"><i>A Search on Faviki</i></p>

<p>Unfortunately, there is no way to import your bookmark collection from another service. This is probably because doing so would necessitate completely re-tagging every link-&#160; that would certainly require too much effort on the part of a user if it was a manual process and I imagine it's also difficult to create a service that would automatically scan each link and tag it appropriately. However, without this option, it will be hard to get users to completely switch over from whatever service they are using now. </p>

<h2>What Problem Faviki Solves</h2>

<p>Because Faviki uses structured tagging, there is more that can be learned about a particular tag, its properties, and its connections to other tags. The system will automatically know what tags belong together and how they relate to others. </p>

<p>There has been a lot of discussion around this topic lately. At the recent <a href="http://thenextweb.org/2008/04/03/nova-spivack-the-semantic-web-as-an-open-and-less-evil-web/">Next Web conference </a>in Amsterdam, Nova Spivack, the founder of <a href="http://www.twine.com/">Twine</a>, predicted that over the next 10-15 years, tags will play an increasingly important role in the structure of the web, while keywords disappear. </p>

<p>If that turns out to be true, then Faviki represents a big step in that direction by offering a transitional service between social bookmarking and a purely semantic-based bookmarking service that would automatically know how to tag any content saved by discovering the semantic aspects already associated with that web page.</p>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56067</id>
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    <title>Comment from zachlandes on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>zachlandes</name>
        <uri>http://www.zachlandes.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Faviki looks like a great service - it is innovative software designs like this that make me believe the semantic web is not far away.  And I think the data is out there, its a matter of searching it, not a matter of redoing the web.  Though RDF would make things easier. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T18:55:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56069</id>
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    <title>Comment from Baxter Tocher on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Baxter Tocher</name>
        <uri>http://www.btocher.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What about Adaptive Blue? I'm pretty sure that they were in the semantic tagging space first:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.adaptiveblue.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adaptiveblue.com/</a><br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T19:08:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56075</id>
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    <title>Comment from BillyG on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillyG</name>
        <uri>http://billygirlardo.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I joined, but I would really like a way to import my <a href="http://del.icio.us/BillyG" rel="nofollow">http://del.icio.us/BillyG</a> of 12,700 saves.</p>

<p>btw: The signin here is not optional.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T20:00:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56078</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jere Majava on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jere Majava</name>
        <uri>http://blogit.helsinki.fi/tyonimi/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'd love to hear some comparison between this and <a href="http://blogit.helsinki.fi/tyonimi/" rel="nofollow">ZigTag</a>. They both seem to have pretty much the same concept.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T20:51:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56079</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jeffrey on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeffrey</name>
        <uri>http://www.intelfusion.net</uri>
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    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.intelfusion.net">
        <![CDATA[<p>Check out Calais 2.0's Tageroo widget for WordPress. It does much the same thing, however in addition to automatic suggestions for tags, it also suggests related images that may apply to your text. <a href="http://www.opencalais.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.opencalais.com/</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T20:52:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56081</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sarah Perez on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sarah Perez</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Jeffrey Thanks, we covered that previously here: <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/calais_gets_a_wordpress_plugin.php">http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/calais_gets_a_wordpress_plugin.php</a> if anyone wants to read about that in more detail.</p>

<p>But not to confuse the issue - the difference is that Faviki is a social bookmarking service similar to del.icio.us, whereas you are pointing to a Wordpress plugin.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T21:18:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56085</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kim Woodbridge on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kim Woodbridge</name>
        <uri>http://www.kimwoodbridge.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How does Faviki differ from Twine?  They sound very similar to me - except for Faviki using DBPedia.</p>

<p>Thanks</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T22:22:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56087</id>
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    <title>Comment from Falafulu Fisi on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Falafulu Fisi</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sarah said...<br />
<i>At the recent Next Web conference in Amsterdam, Nova Spivack, the founder of Twine, predicted that over the next 10-15 years, tags will play an increasingly important role in the structure of the web, while keywords disappear.</i></p>

<p>No, this is completely wrong. Tags will undoubtedly play an  important role in the future structure of the web, however key-words , phrases or short paragraphs will still be there. Why, it is because computers are programmed to mimic how human retrieve & process information, and key-words/phrases/paragraphs are vital to that. Without key-words/phrases/paragraphs then information is very hard to be searchable. The other reason is key-words/phrases/paragraphs gives the ability for retrieving by concept similarity/proximity, where a pure symbolic semantic based search will fail to address that. Symbolic search is a true-false (boolean) scenario. You either take a hit (where polysemy or synonymy are ignored) or no hit. Similarity/proximity search which relies on key-words/phrases/paragraphs can be very wide apart in terms of distance (eg - euclidean distance), but there is always another concept which is a neighbour of the target query that can be retrieved as a match (although low percentage because of the wide euclidean distance). </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-26T23:00:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56102</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ajit on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ajit</name>
        <uri>http://aburad.com/blog/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Nice article. <br />
And yeah..update wikipedia link in post.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T05:35:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56103</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jerry on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jerry</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Kim... <br />
Twine is more of a personal knowledge management and recommendation engine. Twine would be similar to <a href="http://www.zimesh.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zimesh.com</a> or <a href="http://www.quitera.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.quitera.com</a>  </p>

<p>These guys try to connect you to the right people<br />
and right information.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T05:39:37Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56104</id>
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    <title>Comment from william on 2008-05-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>william</name>
        <uri>http://www.adelph.us</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great Idea....But should Wikipedia be the standard ?<br />
Wikipedia is not Semantic.....and not matter what tools you use to try to make the data Semantic.....They will fall short of any effort that is done from the bottom up....So this tool allows for "Semantic" tagging using an Un Semantic library of often inaccurate data ? </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T05:44:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56112</id>
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    <title>Comment from Matt Harwood on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Matt Harwood</name>
        <uri>http://blog.mattharwood.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've been using faviki (user: matt) for a week and a bit, and I love it. The developer is a great person, the design is clean and very usable, and the features are plentiful but never bloated. </p>

<p>Feel free to add me as a friend, would be good to be more connected at faviki to see more of how it works.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T07:25:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Spuds on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Spuds</name>
        <uri>http://spudswebnews.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sounds rather interesting if you ask me. I like the idea of it doing the "tags" for you. I'm off to check it out right now.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T09:09:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jeff on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeff</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Faviki is limiting itself to Wikipedia definitions to tag pages. It doesn't allow for 'undefined' tags. While this does lend itself to keeping the data clean, or as clean as Wikipedia data, it doesn't allow me to tag pages with words <b>I</b> want to use as search terms in the future. <a href="http://www.zigtag.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zigtag.com</a> allows such tags and can import my bookmarks from other services as well. I like that flexibility to use semantic tagging when I want or need to.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T19:22:38Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Vuk Milicic on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Vuk Milicic</name>
        <uri>http://www.faviki.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such an insightful post :) I think you really helped people understand the idea behind Faviki.</p>

<p>Vuk Milicic<br />
founder of Faviki</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T20:25:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6402-comment:56172</id>
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    <title>Comment from Vuk Milicic on 2008-05-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Vuk Milicic</name>
        <uri>http://www.faviki.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Jeff <br />
I agree that Faviki limits expressivness but that's the whole point. By making you choose between 2.3 million tags from Wikipedia, it actually makes you organize your bookmarks better and, more importantly, add real meaning to those bookmarks and relate them using clear, concrete semantics.</p>

<p>I guarantee that this lack of expressivness actually pays off in the long run - it will be much easier to find bookmarks, yours or anyone else's.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-27T21:05:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Henry Pena on 2008-05-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Henry Pena</name>
        <uri>http://biz.penalicio.us</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Very interesting for sure.  I just signed up an account and gonna try it out.  user:  yesyes</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-28T15:32:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BillyG on 2008-05-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>BillyG</name>
        <uri>http://billygirlardo.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How would I tag items that are late-breaking and not in Wikipedia at all?</p>

<p>btw: I mentioned it in #3 above already, but logging in here is not optional, unless this blog is picking out my IP from the rest of the known universe to force me to populate your form fields for comments lol.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-05-28T19:38:47Z</published>
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