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  <title>Comments for Location Awareness: Scientist Admits to Secretly Tracking 100K+ Peoples&apos; Phones</title>
  
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    <published>2008-06-04T22:55:01Z</published>
    <updated>2008-06-05T19:46:41Z</updated>
    <title>Location Awareness: Scientist Admits to Secretly Tracking 100K+ Peoples&apos; Phones</title>
    <summary>Location awareness is hot. Startups like Brightkite, Loopt and others are based entirely on the concept. Yahoo! is blazing new trails in the field with FireEagle and the new Yahoo Location Database API. Even Yelp is getting in on the action. But what happens when companies or governments start using technologies like these to track...</summary>
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      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="creepyeye.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/creepyeye.jpg" width="150" height="146" >Location awareness is hot.  Startups like <a href="http://www.brightkite.com/">Brightkite</a>, <a href="http://www.loopt.com/">Loopt</a> and others are based entirely on the concept.  Yahoo! is blazing new trails in the field with <a href="http://fireeagle.yahoo.com">FireEagle</a> and the new <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_geolocation_api.php">Yahoo Location Database API</a>.  Even <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13577_3-9959913-36.html">Yelp is getting in on the action</a>.</p>

<p>But what happens when companies or governments start using technologies like these to track us against our will, or without our consent?  </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>While many have suspected this is already going on, there's now one firm example on record of exactly that happening to more than 100,000 people.  This is completely unacceptable - these technologies must be opt-in.</p>

<p>Seth Borenstein of the Associated Press <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/06/04/cell.tracking.ap/index.html">reports tonight</a> about definite example of cell phone location privacy intentionally  violated without the knowledge of the phone owners.  Researchers at Northeastern University won't say where the 100,000 people they tracked live or what companies helped them do it - but they made sure to do it outside of the United States.</p>

<h2>What The Scientists Did</h2>

<p>Ethically challenged physics researcher Cesar Hidalgo used cell phone towers to track the locations of more than 100,000 people whenever they made or received phone calls and SMS over a six month time period.  Hidalgo and fellow researchers used the installed tracking technology in the phones of another 206 unwitting people, checking in on where they were every two hours.  The conclusion: most people don't go that far from home in their every day lives.  Almost half of the people tracked generally stayed within the same six mile area.  Shocking, isn't it?  Now just imagine what they could find out if people were given implants unknowingly. </p>

<h2>That's Worse Than Creepy</h2>

<p>It's reminiscent of <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/reality_mining.php">the MIT researcher we wrote about last year</a> who is collecting "passive social graph data" by watching whose cell phones come near who else's, something he calls "reality mining."</p>

<p><img alt="Picture 279.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/Picture%20279.png" width="377" height="371" align="left" hspace=5px" vspace="5px">In this case, though, the subjects of the Northeastern study didn't know they were being tracked and studied.  Hidalgo says that's ok because they were studied in anonymous aggregate.  "In the wrong hands the data could be misused," Hidalgo told CNN. "But in scientists' hands you're trying to look at broad patterns.... We're not trying to do evil things. We're trying to make the world a little better."  Tell that to a long history of science experiment subjects tested against their will.</p>

<p><strong>Even the study of people in anonymous aggregate needs to be opt-in, otherwise there's just too much trust being put in anonymous researchers.</strong></p>

<p>This is why we celebrated FireEagle as much as we did when it launched.  That platform for other location aware services to collect data through asks users on a regular basis if they are ok with FireEagle continuing to keep track of their location reports.  </p>

<p>That's beyond opt-in, it's respectfully, effectively communicative.  <em>Anything less is reason to reject location awareness in general.</em></p>

<p><small>Creepy eye photo by Flickr user Jimmy_joe</small></p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56937</id>
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    <title>Comment from jon on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>jon</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Gee, I wonder why most people stay close to home? Maybe because it's expensive to do otherwise? I'd love to be able to afford to drive, fly, or take a train to different city/country daily, but I'm just a serf. Remove the economics from the equation and people would be moving all over the place.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-04T23:52:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56938</id>
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    <title>Comment from Christopher Herot on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>Christopher Herot</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm not so sure this one is worthy of the tin foil hats, but it's a god topic for discussion to clarify when such studies should be opt-in.</p>

<p>The usual reason for requiring informed consent when experimenting on humans is the possibility, however slight, of doing people harm.</p>

<p>I would put this more in the category of all those sociology studies in which the researcher passively observes people at street corners etc.  The data in question is already gathered  by the mobile operators for their own use in managing the network.  What makes it potentially troubling is that they shared this data with someone outside the company.  I would be more concerned if this data was used to identify and/or target individuals rather than whether it was studied in the aggregate.  Would you have been concerned if the phone company had gathered this same data but used it just to determine where to put in more cell towers?  I think not.  The problem is where to draw the line between internal, legitimate network management practices and potentially intrusive violations of consumer's privacy. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-04T23:55:05Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56940</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Christopher, that all makes some sense.  I wasn't the one who started sneaking around in an undisclosed location working with a mystery phone company though, that was the scientist dude in question.  I agree - let's talk about it. For example, is this the cell phone company's data or is it our data as users?  Presumably it's neither absolutely, but who gets to make decisions like this?</p>

<p>As for tin foil hats, I think this whole subject is one that warrants some headgear of some sort :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T00:01:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rob on 2008-06-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rob</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Where do they think people are going to go on a daily basis? Crappy that they are doing this, and kind of pointless. Maybe they are tracking to see how many people go to porn theaters.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T00:04:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56942</id>
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    <title>Comment from Edward Vielmetti on 2008-06-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Edward Vielmetti</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>where's the IRB when you need them</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T00:15:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56944</id>
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    <title>Comment from CK on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>CK</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>sorry Northeastern in Boston would be more correct</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T00:21:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Falafulu Fisi on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>Falafulu Fisi</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Marshall,</p>

<p>Location awareness is when the device itself is aware of where it is and act accordingly, ie, it does things or certain actions according to its location, but it is not when a central system is aware of the device's location such as the phone company, etc. The two are completely different. What you're describing here in this article is the latter not the former. Location awareness is under a more broad category of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Context_awareness" rel="nofollow">Context Awareness</a>. Here is a simple example. Suppose that New York (I've never been there) is mostly raining throughout the year compared to California (I've also never been there either) which is mostly dry on average throughout the year. One week I hopped on a plane and flew to Texas (lets say that it is similar to California's weather). I stayed there for a week, then caught another plane to New York. On arrival, my location awareness mobile device had just alerted me that  I must get an umbrella since I do need it because it is a state that it aware of being rainy most of the time. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T00:57:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56950</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Falafulu, I understand the concept of location awareness to be broader than that and to include the awareness on the part of a service of my location.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T01:00:56Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from a on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>More serious articles covering this research can be found at</p>

<p><a href="http://www.livemint.com/2008/06/04233301/Mobiles-can-help-track-pattern.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.livemint.com/2008/06/04233301/Mobiles-can-help-track-pattern.html</a></p>

<p><a href="http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/604/2" rel="nofollow">http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/604/2</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T02:47:57Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56975</id>
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    <title>Comment from Fred on 2008-06-04</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I agree Marshal. But, wasn't this originally in Nature (<i> THE </i> place to publish as a researcher). I guess some people are interested in the data from the research...</p>

<p>"Data Rights" is the topic that I find more interesting and relevant as well:<br />
Because the data is collected in the first place, it is necessary to determine who has rights and access to it. If they are collecting it, I want access and I want to know who else has accessed it.</p>

<p>Data is power, and the less the telcos have the better (talk about "walled gardens"?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T03:43:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56991</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jesse Hume on 2008-06-05</title>
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        <name>Jesse Hume</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Deutsche Telekom (owner of T-Mobile) seems to have been using mobile phone location to find out whether their executives have been meeting certain journalists in 2005-2007. (They have also been looking at telephone numbers called by these people to find whether they talked with each other on the phone.) This has been a major news topic in Germany in the last 2 weeks.</p>

<p>Problem with Deutsche Telekom and in the case you cite above: They are using data collected centrally in the networks (not on the phone), which seems to be needed for operating mobile networks. This is different from using your phone to tell some app where you are.</p>

<p>Problem is: whatever data is collected in a place you don't control physically can and will be abused.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T09:13:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:56993</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alex Wassall on 2008-06-05</title>
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        <name>Alex Wassall</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As i understand it this data is collected any way in order to operate the mobile networks.</p>

<p>Personal i agree with Jesse Hume and Fred. This data already exists and needs to exist in order for the Mobile networks to function. </p>

<p>If it exists in a place over which you have no contol (operators data bases) then it will be used in ways over which you have no control (see article above)and there is no way to prevent this from happening</p>

<p>count yourselves lucky it got reported this time<br />
(BTW how many other instances of this are not reported do you think?)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T09:41:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Joe on 2008-06-05</title>
    <author>
        <name>Joe</name>
        <uri>http://www.medlawplus.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>>>Problem is: whatever data is collected in a place you don't control physically can and will be abused.<br />
Agree with Jesse.  This is the problem with telecoms / ISP collecting personal data ... it's abuse waiting to happen either by employers or, more likely, the government.  The full extent of the Bush Administration's warrantless surveillance within the US through acquience by the telecoms is unknown.  I suspect its more pervasive than anyone imagines.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T13:25:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bob on 2008-06-05</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bob</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How soon will I be able to hire a cyber-detective to stalk/follow the whereabouts of my ex? Or when will Big Brother knock on my door with a warrent -- we've been monitoring your activities and noticed you were within 20 feet of a known [fill in the blank] for more than 20 minutes.... <br />
Solution: take out the battery and sim card when not in use....</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-05T18:57:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:57294</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ben on 2008-06-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is stupid. I read that the data was given by cellular companies to do anonymous research on.</p>

<p>This is dumb dumb stuff. Normal RWW is good - but this is retarded reporting.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-09T06:13:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6477-comment:57325</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sachendra Yadav on 2008-06-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sachendra Yadav</name>
        <uri>http://sachendra.wordpress.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So much has been said on privacy issues, and I'm in agreement with that but let's also look at the benefits coming out of this research</p>

<p>I've written a post about what I want from Local Search on mobiles, and this research helped me reach some of the conclusions</p>

<p><a href="http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/what-i-want-from-local-search-on-my-mobile/" rel="nofollow">http://sachendra.wordpress.com/2008/06/06/what-i-want-from-local-search-on-my-mobile/</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-06-09T17:43:06Z</published>
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