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    <published>2008-07-01T18:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-01T21:46:58Z</updated>
    <title>Hulu To Earn Up to $90M In First Year</title>
    <summary>Hulu To Earn Up to $90M In First Year</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Sarah Perez</name>
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      <![CDATA[<em><strong><p>....But It's Not A Success Story Yet!</p></strong></em>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/hulu-logo.jpg">To the average user, <a href="http://www.hulu.com">Hulu.com</a>, the free web site that offers high-quality streams of TV shows and movies in the U.S., looks like a runaway success: the selection of available content is more than decent, <a href="http://www.hulu.com/collections/">Hulu's Collections</a> make browsing related videos easy, <a href="http://www.hulu.com/hd/">HD videos have been made available</a>, embed codes are provided for re-posting the videos on the web, and the site gets a good amount of traffic, too. In fact, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/business/media/11hulu.html?ref=business">Hulu's CEO reported</a> in March that 5 million visitors watched videos on the site during the past 30 days while the service was still in beta, and that number has been increasing ever since.  </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p><font style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><script type="text/javascript">digg_url = 'http://digg.com/tech_news/Hulu_To_Earn_Up_to_90M_In_First_Year';digg_bgcolor = '#ffffff';digg_skin = 'normal';</script><script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>Today, Hulu is reporting that they saw 63 million streams during their first month of measurement, April 2008 - that's a lot of eyeballs! Unfortunately, it's not enough to label the site a success.</p>

<p>Despite the number of visitors and streams, Hulu's success doesn't translate into big business - at least not yet. A recent <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/7/hulu-a-consumer-success-but-still-a-small-business">Silicon Alley Insider article</a> is speculating that Hulu will earn between $45 - 90 million during their first 12 months - April 2008 through March 2009. However, after paying off their content partners, their net revenue will be between $12.5 million and $25 million. (For how they arrived at those numbers, click <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/7/hulu-a-consumer-success-but-still-a-small-business">here</a>).</p>

<p>While those numbers aren't bad for a startup, as the article points out, they're not great for transforming Hulu into a wildly successful business, especially when you compare it to the "pay-for-content" iTunes model, which <a href="http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/03/apple-apparentl.html">apparently turned a $570 million profit last year</a>. Of course, iTunes' library is much larger, but it still shows that there is big money to be made by charging for content.</p>

<p>The problem with Hulu really has nothing to do with its design - sleek and easy to use - the problem is the tight stranglehold networks still have over their content. Major networks CBS and Disney (ABC) are not even on board yet and the networks that have joined yank their content down after it's five weeks old. </p>

<p>Instead of offering an online site that competes, not just with television, but also with our trusty DVRs that can record and save every episode of a show, Hulu only offers a smattering of hit-or-miss content where you're not even guaranteed to find the one episode you came to the site in search of in the first place. Case in point: Family Guy's "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Harvest_(Family_Guy)">Blue Harvest</a>" episode, a Star Wars parody, became so popular that it's been released as a standalone DVD. Even though having that episode alone could drive scores of visitors to Hulu's site, it's nowhere to be found. But do you know where it can be found in a matter of minutes? BitTorrent.</p>

<p>So, Hulu loses to the pirates when it comes to content and it can't even compete when it comes to offering a legal alternative to watching TV online either, since other networks don't want to participate, happy to host their streaming content on their own web sites or - in the case of some smaller networks - not at all. </p>

<p>Well, maybe Hulu doesn't really want to be a huge money-making machine. After all, isn't the internet all about serving the long tail? And the advertisers seem happy enough for now as it is. For example, a P&amp;G spokesperson reported that the company, a partner since the beta launch, has so far been "pleased with the results from Hulu" and "will continue to evaluate it as a way to reach our consumer." Perhaps Hulu just wants to stay in the black while hoping to make a small dent in the number of users rampantly pirating video. </p>

<p>As Hulu grows in popularity, their bandwidth, marketing costs, and overhead will increase as well, and it will remain a struggle for the company to <a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/3/hulu_s_one_month_ad_revenue_250k">earn revenue</a>. But if they can't make a successful business out of providing legal online video, then who will? </p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Andrei Potorac on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andrei Potorac</name>
        <uri>http://www.andreipotorac.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When I first heard about Hulu I thought of Joost. Both of the companies offer a lot of content, but their business model is different. Oh, and both of them have restricted access to some countries in Europe, like the one I live in. :)</p>

<p>I'd love to be able to check it out, but for now I'm not. :D</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T18:47:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Todd</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"...Hulu's CEO reported in March that 5 million visitors watched videos..."</p>

<p>What competing web video service is the Hulu CEO using as his benchmark? There are videos on YouTube that get 6 million hits a month by themselves, not all of YouTube, just one football-in-the-groin video that Google paid $0.00 to have someone upload.</p>

<p>Hulu - 5 million visitors in March<br />
YouTube - 5 million visitors in the time it took me to write this comment</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T19:20:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6682-comment:59231</id>
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    <title>Comment from IncomeGreed on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>IncomeGreed</name>
        <uri>http://www.squidoo.com/IncomeGreed-Review</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fat chance hulu, they suck!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.squidoo.com/IncomeGreed-Review" rel="nofollow">http://www.squidoo.com/IncomeGreed-Review</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-01T23:55:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from sull on 2008-07-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>sull</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This analysis is to a T with what I felt about the project when it was first rumored (msm youtube-killer collab).<br />
Destined to fail at making substantial profits.<br />
But they may measure success differently, as you pointed out.<br />
It may only exist to cut down on pirate sources and on youtube... and any profit or just staying away from the red is just icing.</p>

<p>The truth about TV on the net is this... every channel on TV has a website.  You surf to channels on your TV and on the WEB just the same.  If there is something you enjoy watching, you will know where to find it.  It's up to the "channels" to provide the content online.  hulu/youtube etc is not needed for the TV consumers if the programming is on  the TV channel's net equivalent - their f'n website!<br />
And soon enough, your living room TV will also be your broadband computer for additional media consumption.</p>

<p>I don't know how much more obvious this can be.</p>

<p>"But if they can't make a successful business out of providing legal online video, then who will?"</p>

<p>Exactly.  Who will?  Each proprietor of the content will. <br />
NBC.com, ABC.com, CBS.com, HBO.com, ComedyCentral.com, Showtime.com etc.  And they already have started.  </p>

<p>The cost? Well that's why hulu is interesting for now.<br />
The cost is largely handed-off while they still get what they want.  But how long will the relationships and paradigm last?  </p>

<p>Then their is the future where TV will all be Video-On-Demand.  Leaving much of this web babble as moot.<br />
You will pay for what you want to watch.  No subscriptions.<br />
Commercials will still be present but not as they are today.  More like hulu in fact.  hulu+itunes = future of TV.  or something like that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-02T05:01:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Free Internet TV on 2008-07-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Free Internet TV</name>
        <uri>http://www.channelking.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am enjoying Hulu, but will they bring live streaming television?  That would be awesome.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-03T18:43:09Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Lancelot on 2008-07-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Lancelot</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If I want to watch commercials I'll turn on my TV - I tried this site once & moved on before the episode was even finished.<br />
I'll watch something on my PC / Notebook when I'm traveling but that's about it. If I can't watch it without commercials it's of no use to me. Plus, if you'd like to re-view an episode that's over a month old you're out of luck.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-03T18:47:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jack on 2008-07-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jack</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I use Hulu all the time, and it's especially great to watch at work when I'm on break. I really like it, and the interface is great. Watching it at home is kinda lame though, because my internet isn't fast enough to keep the video smooth and uninterrupted. But why compare Hulu to a monster like Itunes? Of course the profits will look tiny compared to that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-03T19:18:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Steven Place on 2008-07-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>Steven Place</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"...after paying off their content partners, their net revenue will be between $12.5 million and $25 million.."</p>

<p>That's earnings, not revenue. Revenue is the big number; earnings the smaller.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-03T20:36:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Not Me on 2008-07-03</title>
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        <name>Not Me</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It very well <em>could be</em> net revenue instead of earnings. There is no mention here about hosting and bandwidth costs, so this amount is very likely to be nearer the top line than the bottom line.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-04T03:57:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rick on 2008-07-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The networks need to let Hulu have more shows. Currently I keep up on a VERY small number of shows at all and it's very annoying to only be able to watch 5 or so episodes of that show. Or to be in the mood to actually watch something and be disappointed that the same shows are still being played with no other choices.</p>

<p>One place Hulu does shine - 80's TV Shows. Stuff that I don't quite want to buy on DVD and watch, but I'm interested enough in watching once or twice. For the most part these shows are pretty complete so it's a nice walk down memory lane.</p>

<p>I don't mind the commericals to much. They're easy to tune out, especially the shorter ones. And for only having one at the beginning and one midway through, I'll deal with it. Heck - if real TV started using that model I'd actually start watching it again.</p>

<p><br />
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    <published>2008-07-04T17:38:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from sunny beach on 2008-07-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>sunny beach</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fucking Joint Ventures. <br />
Too bad there won't be an IPO for it. Unless they spin off.  <br />
I guess I'll go invest in NewsCorp, and GE's NBC Universal.</p>

<p>Problem is, it's already pretty much too late.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-06T14:27:33Z</published>
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