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    <published>2008-07-23T19:50:05Z</published>
    <updated>2008-07-23T21:35:30Z</updated>
    <title>Knol: Google Takes on Wikipedia</title>
    <summary>Google just opened up Knol, its Wikipedia competitor, to the public after announcing a private beta of the service last December. Unlike Wikipedia, Knol puts a stronger emphasis on authorship and even encourages users to start different &apos;knols&apos; for the same subject. Google is also serving up AdSense advertising on the site, whereas Wikipedia stays...</summary>
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      <name>Frederic Lardinois</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="googlelogo6.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/googlelogo6.jpg" />Google just <a href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/knol-is-open-to-everyone.html">opened up</a> <a href="http://knol.google.com">Knol</a>, its Wikipedia competitor, to the public after <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/knol_project_google_experiment.php">announcing a private beta</a> of the service last December. Unlike Wikipedia, <a href="http://knol.google.com">Knol</a> puts a stronger emphasis on authorship and even encourages users to start different 'knols' for the same subject. Google is also serving up AdSense advertising on the site, whereas Wikipedia stays away from any advertising on its site.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p><font style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><script type="text/javascript">digg_url = 'http://digg.com/educational/Knol_Google_Takes_on_Wikipedia';digg_bgcolor = '#ffffff';digg_skin = 'normal';</script><script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>In many respects, Knol is similar to Jason Calacanis' <a href="http://mahalo.com">Mahalo</a>, though its scope seems even more ambitious and its tools a bit more refined. It does, however, validate the Mahalo model.</p>

<h2>Authorship/Identity</h2>

<p>Knol puts a lot of emphasis on authorship and, somewhat akin to Amazon's "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/14279641/">Real Name</a>" scheme, authors can validate their identity on Knol through either a credit card or phone number. </p>

<p><img alt="gnol-author.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/gnol-author.png" /></p>

<p>The default setting for every Knol is "moderated collaboration." In this mode, anybody with a Google account can suggest changes to an knol, but the author has to accept these changes before they go live.</p>

<p>Authors can also invite others to contribute to their articles and given them the same rights as the original author. </p>

<p>There is also an option for authors to write a short bio of themselves in Knol. While this is interesting here, it will be even more interesting to see if Google might start sharing these Knol identities (and maybe even the users' reputation) among more of its properties. </p>

<h2>Usage</h2>

<p>Setting up a Knol is as easy as clicking the "Write a Knol" button. The text editor, too, is pretty straightforward, especially in the face of the often cryptic mark-up language most wikis use.</p>

<p>Knol uses a rich text editor, which presents users with all the typical editing functions, including basic formatting options, links (all set to 'nonfollow'), and the ability to add references. </p>

<p><img alt="knol-editor.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/knol-editor.png" /></p>

<p>As of now, you can not embed any videos or other content, except for the New Yorker Cartoons that Google incensed for this project for reasons only Google knows.</p>

<p>Users who don't want to write their own articles can review and rate knols. There is also an option to leave comments on every knol.</p>

<h2>Creative Commons</h2>

<p>Users can choose between three licenses for their articles, the Creative Commons Attribution License, the Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial License, and an "All Rights Reserved" license. The Attribution license is the default setting. Users can chose a different license for every knol.</p>

<h2>Advertising</h2>

<p>Authors on Knol can enter their AdSense data into Knol. Besides the cut Google already takes from the advertising through AdSense anyway, authors will get the regular AdSense payout for every click on an ad. This seems like a smart way to reward users who write the best (or most popular) content, while still making money for Google. </p>

<p>In the competition with Wikipedia, this might mean that some authors could divert their attention from editing Wikipedia articles to Knol. However, the question will also be if spammers can find a way of abusing this.</p>

<p><img alt="knol-advertising.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/knol-advertising.png" /></p>

<h2>New Yorker Cartoons?</h2>

<p>While there is no option to embed any videos or other content into the site, authors can embed cartoons from the New Yorker. This is done through a rather cumbersome process where users have to first search for a cartoon in the New Yorker store and then enter the ID number of the cartoon into Knol. Why Google chose the New Yorker's cartoon archive for this is anybody's guess, but chances are that Google will announce more content partnerships in the near future.</p>

<h2>Is Google Going After Wikipedia?</h2>

<p>Given how often Wikipedia results appear as Google's top results, it would make sense for Google to <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/whats_next_for_google.php">look at this</a> and decide to start its own competitor. By incentivizing authors through AdSense and by giving its users simple, but powerful tools to start their articles, Google might just be on the right track. While Google keeps reiterating that Knol is not meant to compete with Wikipedia, it's hard to see how that wouldn't be the case. </p>

<p>Knol, of course, has far fewer articles now than Wikipedia, but as it grows, it will be interesting to watch if Google is going to give preference to its own pages over the Wikipedia results. After all, Knol carries Google advertising and Wikipedia doesn't, so Google would clearly have an incentive in doing so, though the potential public outcry if Google would try to do this might prevent them from even attempting it.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Nick Stamoulis on 2008-07-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nick Stamoulis</name>
        <uri>http://www.nickstamoulis.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We can see where this wouldn't quite go head to head competition wise with Wikipedia.  It seems it has a different objective in terms of authorship which pretty much makes the site much differant than wikipedia. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-23T19:59:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61428</id>
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    <title>Comment from chris on 2008-07-23</title>
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        <name>chris</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>...man, these guys are greedy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-23T21:16:45Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61438</id>
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    <title>Comment from Maddie Ruud on 2008-07-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maddie Ruud</name>
        <uri>http://hubpages.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I work for HubPages.com, a prominent user-generated content site with an AdSense revenue share program that is probably more similar to Knol than Wikipedia is.  Spam and inappropriate content are always a problem for sites like ours, and we're extremely interested in how Google will handle the moderation issue.  They're probably also going to have to find a way to make content easier to find (we use keyword tags to help visitors locate what they're looking for more easily), and ensure that good content bubbles to the top in searches.</p>

<p>Over at HubPages we have HubScore and an efficient flagging system to this effect, but at least on Blogger, Google hasn't shown a great track record for eliminating splogs and bad content.</p>

<p>We'll be watching with interest.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-23T22:07:26Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ken on 2008-07-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ken</name>
        <uri>http://oondi.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested in purchasing www.oondi.com which is a website similar to Google Knol, send an e-mail to info [AT] oondi [DOT] com. The time is now for these types of websites; the business model has just been validated. oondi.com also focuses towards other languages such as Dutch and French, which is unique in comparison to Squidoo, HubPages, Google Knol, etc...</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-23T22:28:13Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61454</id>
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    <title>Comment from Adam Jusko on 2008-07-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Adam Jusko</name>
        <uri>http://www.bessed.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Not sure how Knol validates the Mahalo model; Google is asking for full-length articles with some credible links as part of them. While Mahalo may be moving in this direction as it moves further and further from its original aim of being a human-powered search engine, it's more as if Mahalo wants to be Wikipedia/Knol than the other way around. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-24T03:50:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61475</id>
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    <title>Comment from panos on 2008-07-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>panos</name>
        <uri>http://www.wi-not.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If they are going directly against Wikipedia, it is doomed. Might work otherwise. However, as pointed our elsewhere, searching for  "toilet clog" gives the 'knol' article in the first page of results!!<br />
:)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-24T09:53:43Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61486</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mark Moran on 2008-07-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mark Moran</name>
        <uri>http://www.FindingDulcinea.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Knol, Google's sponsored entry into human powered search alternatives, is an acknowledgment that search users cannot find, evaluate and put to use the information they are looking for.  It seeks to provide the “endorsed” results that users think they are getting now from search engines. Knol will certainly have some success, but like Mahalo, About and Wikipedia, it will lack the consistent editorial policy, approach, voice and quality that www.FindingDulcinea.com brings to helping users find comprehensive and credible resources to Web users. As with Wikipedia and Mahalo, some entries will be very good, and some may be dangerously bad. You get to try to figure out which ones are which.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-24T13:08:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61541</id>
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    <title>Comment from Barbra Sundquist, Bio Writer on 2008-07-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Barbra Sundquist, Bio Writer</name>
        <uri>http://www.HowToWriteBio.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I just learned about Knol yesterday, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it unfolds. I noticed your comment about authors needing a professional bio - I have a website called www.howtowritebio.com that has fill-in-the-blank templates for various types of professional bios. Your readers might find it helpful.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-24T19:30:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Google Knol Tracker on 2008-07-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Google Knol Tracker</name>
        <uri>http://www.ontheknol.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I had setup a Google Knol Tracker, <a href="http://www.ontheknol.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ontheknol.com/</a> , to track what kind of articles show up on Google Knol’s frontpage and provide Knol RSS Featured Feeds and archival searching.</p>

<p>So far it’s very heavily health related and with articles that are a lot more eZineArticles like rather than Wikipedia like. I think Knol will provide a lot more competition to the article directories than it will Wikipedia or other similar sites.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-25T18:39:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61730</id>
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    <title>Comment from Web Laureate on 2008-07-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Web Laureate</name>
        <uri>http://webpoet.wordpress.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>it's a really interesting idea.  should be interesting to see which bits of which knols float to the top.  here's my little bit for and about knol's bits - <a href="http://webpoet.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/a-single-unit/" rel="nofollow">http://webpoet.wordpress.com/2008/07/26/a-single-unit/</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-27T01:13:48Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61789</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mehmet Yanki Yonel on 2008-07-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mehmet Yanki Yonel</name>
        <uri>http://www.mehmetyanki.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for nice and usefull article.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-07-27T23:57:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61792</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ivan_PSP on 2008-07-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ivan_PSP</name>
        <uri>http://www.scea.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia rulez unbeatable. Google won't do shit to Wiki...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-07-28T01:25:07Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:61862</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cassy on 2008-07-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cassy</name>
        <uri>http://www.performventures.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Google for posing a viable alternative to Wikipedia! I love the concept of Wikipedia and am always curious to peruse entries. However, the posting format is awful and as is typically noted when discussing Wikipedia, it is difficult to verify information (or to come to a consensus on a certain topic.) Therefore, with Knol's emphasis on author identity, at least there is an easier place to begin in verifying the information. And, by employing a typical word processing format, it truly becomes more user-friendly which lends credence to its social media aspiration as a "source of information." I'm looking forward to see how Knol develops as it gains popularity. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-07-28T19:20:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6859-comment:62646</id>
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    <title>Comment from ZaggedEdge on 2008-08-03</title>
    <author>
        <name>ZaggedEdge</name>
        <uri>http://www.zaggededge.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Google the word Knol</p>

<p>HOW DOES A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE ON GOOGLE KNOL POP UP BEFORE THE HOMEPAGE FOR GOOGLE KNOL?!  </p>

<p>I've written more about the story on my blog ZaggedEdge dot com</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-03T13:57:28Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jiordanrudess on 2008-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>jiordanrudess</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p> I love also the concept of this idea!<br />
What's the real domain name?I tried with www.google-knol.net or .com but no answers?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-20T15:51:12Z</published>
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