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  <title>Comments for A First Look at Mozilla&apos;s Snowl</title>
  
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    <published>2008-08-08T05:30:19Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-08T23:17:25Z</updated>
    <title>A First Look at Mozilla&apos;s Snowl</title>
    <summary>First Look at Mozilla&apos;s Snowl</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Frederic Lardinois</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="snowl-logo.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/snowl-logo2.jpg" />Yesterday, Mozilla announced <a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/08/introducing-snowl/">Snowl</a>, a prototype of a universal messaging/content aggregation plugin for Firefox. In its current incarnation, Snowl only allows you to view your Twitter messages and RSS feeds, though Mozilla is planning on adding more messaging services in the near future. During our first tests, we came away disenchanted, as the execution of this first version leaves a lot to be desired, even if the general idea behind Snowl is quite interesting.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Marrying Messages and News</h2>

<p><font style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><script type="text/javascript">digg_url = 'http://digg.com/tech_news/A_First_Look_at_Mozilla_s_Snowl';digg_bgcolor = '#ffffff';digg_skin = 'normal';</script><script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>The basic idea behind Snowl is to bring together messaging and feed reading in the browser. As Mozilla points out, it shouldn't matter where messages originate - instead, both RSS feeds, forums, social networks should all be able to live together happily in one interface. The team behind Snowl also assumes that paradigms that shape the development of browsers also apply to navigating messages.</p>

<p>However, at least in its current state, Snowl proves Mozilla wrong on most of these counts.</p>

<p><img alt="snowl-sshot1.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/snowl-sshot1.jpg" /></p>

<p>Snowl allows you to view your messages in two ways: a traditional three-pane view that looks very similar to most RSS readers or email clients. You can also view your messages in a River of News style view, but at least for us, that simply didn't work at all.</p>

<p>In both views, the left sidebar displays a mix of RSS feeds, blog authors, and the people you follow on Twitter. Sadly, when we imported an OPML file, it only picked up on maybe 7 of the 300 feeds in the file. As for your Twitter followers, it apparently also only displays those who recently sent a tweet (or at least, so we assume, as there really is no way of telling). </p>

<h2>UI: Lots to be Done</h2>

<p>Overall, this implementation leaves a lot to be desired, not just from the technical implementation (which didn't even allow us to update our feeds), but also from a conceptual point of view.</p>

<p>In the message list, for example, Mozilla stresses authorship. That makes sense for Twitter, but given that a lot of blogs have multiple authors or do not advertise a post's author explicitly, you end up with a lot of blogs that only list the title of a post but not the name of the blog.</p>

<p><img alt="snowl-twitter.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/snowl-twitter.png" /></p>

<p>All of these technical problems are probably easy to fix, but it also highlights some of the important differences between messages coming in from AIM, Twitter, or your email service and your news sources. The real problem here is that there is really very little advantage to having both your conversations and your news sources flow together into one interface. News consumption is, besides maybe sharing a post in <a href="http://www.google.com">Google</a> Reader, a relatively passive experience, while messaging is exactly the opposite. </p>

<h2>One Client Can't Rule Them All?</h2>

<p>Clearly this is a version 0.1 product, so problems with the UI and other technical issues are to be expected. It is an interesting experiment, but in the end, it just creates confusion. </p>

<p>It would be great to have one unified client for everything, but different types of content simply require different user interfaces and a three-pane view of your Twitter messages mixed in with RSS feeds (and potentially your IM messages) simply isn't a very effective way of handling these different types of information, especially once Mozilla starts adding more interactivity to Snowl.</p>

<p>In order for Mozilla to turns this experiment into a useful tool, they will have to completely rethink the interface.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:65066</id>
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    <title>Comment from David Russell on 2008-08-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>David Russell</name>
        <uri>http://www.davidarussell.co.uk/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Essentially all Mozilla have done is port Thunderbird's RSS reader to a Firefox extension. Barely even newsworthy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-29T00:37:53Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63714</id>
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    <title>Comment from Svetlana Gladkova on 2008-08-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Svetlana Gladkova</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/profy</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Same here, FireFox can behave unpredictably in terms of memory consumption but many of us stick to it mainly because of the extensions. This is actually the reason why I have to stick to Outlook - I am a heavy user of Outlook and Plaxo toolbars and can't just get out of this MS product because of them.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-14T13:00:13Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63713</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brad Nickel on 2008-08-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Nickel</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Right there with you. Uninstalled Snowl yesterday.  Trying Feedy now. Anyway, performance in Firefox is just atrociuos these days. Using a tool to clear memory cache, but temporary manual fix. I love the Epiphany browser for performance, but none of my Firefox extensions work and its interface behavior(tabs) is strange.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-14T12:52:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63709</id>
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    <title>Comment from Svetlana Gladkova on 2008-08-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Svetlana Gladkova</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That's my point, we are damaged by the nature of multi-tasking, not because we have too many tabs open in Firefox.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-14T11:39:25Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63697</id>
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    <title>Comment from friarminor on 2008-08-14</title>
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        <name>friarminor</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Though it may reduce my open tabs by 2, I still have lots of multiple tabs open and it really is difficult when Firefox seems trudging along like a man with a leg problem.  Slow.</p>

<p>Best.<br />
alain</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-14T08:28:42Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63307</id>
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    <title>Comment from Svetlana Gladkova on 2008-08-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Svetlana Gladkova</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have another concern about Mozilla's approach. I don't really see how it may be useful to have all the activities combined in a browser - it will not only make the browser too heavy to use, it will not solve the main problem for multi-taskers. Now I have to switch between apps for different types of activities and with this approach I will have to switch between tabs. Does it really change anything?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-09T05:57:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63232</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Messina on 2008-08-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris Messina</name>
        <uri>http://factoryjoe.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking a skeptical look at Snowl. It certainly is early and is conceptual, but I really hope that future interfaces for consuming such information is not constrained by the limitations or facilitations of XUL. The web is such a richer place with better interfaces -- I hope they innovate on that aspect as much as realizing that the web is no longer exclusively, or even primarily, about documents.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-08T14:47:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63205</id>
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    <title>Comment from Frederic on 2008-08-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Frederic</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@MG I know you have a thing for seeing your tweets in screenshots - and this time, you even get to see it three times :) As for Snowl - my advice for now would be to stay far away from it...</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-08T07:13:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63203</id>
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    <title>Comment from Taylor on 2008-08-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Taylor</name>
        <uri>http://www.govit.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. RSS feeds mixed w/ twitter feeds sounds like a good enough idea, but after your review I think I'll wait for v 1.0.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-08T07:08:20Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63202</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jimmy on 2008-08-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jimmy</name>
        <uri>http://justtalkaboutweb.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's just at 0.1 -- not too bad though UI must be more creative to be "one ring to rule..."</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-08T07:01:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.6974-comment:63199</id>
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    <title>Comment from MG Siegler on 2008-08-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>MG Siegler</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/parislemon</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>another of my random tweets that will live on... but seriously, good write-up. i'm interested in this but haven't tried it yet.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-08T06:14:18Z</published>
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