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    <published>2008-08-27T05:00:07Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-28T22:46:45Z</updated>
    <title>Has Yahoo! Buzz Lived Up to the Buzz?</title>
    <summary>Has Yahoo! Buzz Lived Up to the Buzz?</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Muhammad Saleem</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/yahoobuzz-logo.jpg" />Since <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/why_yahoo_buzz_is_a_brilliant_idea.php" target="_blank">our initial review of Yahoo! Buzz</a> earlier this year, not much has changed about the service. At the same time, however, the perception, acceptance, and impact of the service has changed drastically. The service has shown that it <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_buzz_is_a_game_changer.php" target="_blank">can send enormous amounts of traffic</a> (<a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_buzz_talkative_traffic.php" target="_blank">very talkative traffic</a>), and has <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/comscore_yahoo_buzz_digg.php" target="_blank">displaced Digg</a> as the most active 'social news' community. In the process, they <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_buzz_widgets.php" target="_blank">added widgets and rss</a>, and most recently (and most importantly) have <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/yahoo_opens_buzz_submissions_t.php" target="_blank">opened up participation to everyone</a>.</p>

<p><font style="float: right; margin-left: 10px;"><script type="text/javascript">digg_url = 'http://digg.com/tech_news/Has_Yahoo_Buzz_Lived_Up_to_The_Buzz';digg_bgcolor = '#ffffff';digg_skin = 'normal';</script><script src="http://digg.com/tools/diggthis.js" type="text/javascript"></script></font>Since they opened the submission process to everyone, the buzz surrounding the site has really been at a high. Desperate publishers and marketers who were previously locked out of the supposed 'traffic mecca' have joined the service in droves and have already started the practice of vote-begging in the hopes that enough votes will get them promoted to Yahoo's main page. Here's what you need to know about the current state of Buzz.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p><em>Note the important distinction between the <a href="http://yahoo.com" target="_blank">Yahoo! main page </a>and the <a href="http://buzz.yahoo.com" target="_blank">Yahoo! Buzz main page</a>, and the distinction between content made popular (i.e. promoted to the Yahoo Buzz main page) and Y! featured content (which is content cherry picked from Buzz to be featured on the Yahoo! main page). </em></p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/yahoo_rww_wikipedia.jpg" /><br /><em>ReadWriteWeb's one (and so far only) appearance on the yahoo.com frontpage - Wikipedia story bottom right</em></p>

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<li><strong>Yahoo! Buzz is not a social experience.</strong> The process of being featured on Yahoo! Buzz is socially driven (based on votes, shares, and search patterns), but if you consider the site's place in the overall structure of Yahoo's strategy, the experience isn't social. Yahoo! Buzz is the picking ground for the content that ultimately gets featured on the Yahoo! main page, which means it is social in the exact same way <a href="http://slashdot.org/firehose.shtml" target="_blank">Slashdot Firehose</a> is social. Your votes may get a story to the main page of Yahoo! Buzz but after that it's up to an editor's judgment whether a story gets featured on the Yahoo! main page or not. So the final result, or the process of getting featured on Yahoo's main page is not entirely social. Furthermore, there Yahoo! has turned off the comments so there are no conversations, and because there is no networking aspect to the site, there are also no relationships.</li>
       <li><strong>Your votes don't mean much.</strong> Number of votes is one of the metrics used to determine content popularity. Even then, I've learned that the impact of votes is arbitrary. I know people whose content was featured on the Yahoo! main page with 0 votes, and people whose content didn't even get to the Yahoo! Buzz main page after 75 votes. The other metrics are the number of times content is shared via email and on other social sites, as well as search volume.</li>
       <li><strong>Exposure is very limited, inequitably distributed. </strong>The Yahoo! Buzz main page presently is less significant than even <a href="http://digg.com/all/upcoming/most" target="_blank">the upcoming/most page on Digg</a>. Although being on the page may increase your odds of catching an editor's eye, you don't get any exposure unless you are featured on the Yahoo! main page. Furthermore, such an insignificant number of stories cross from Yahoo! Buzz to the Yahoo! main page that for the average person, participation in the quest for exposure is an act in futility.</li>
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<p>To summarize, Yahoo! Buzz is social insofar as a community of users gets to submit content, and vote/share it. Anything more than that, Yahoo! Buzz doesn't do. </p>

<p>That said, the site also doesn't pretend to be anything more than what it is. It doesn't consider itself to be a competitor to other social news and networking sites, in fact it allows you to and even recommends you to share Buzzed stories on other social sites and then counts 'shares' as another metric to measure content popularity. As the popularity of Yahoo! Buzz grows and more people start frequenting the Yahoo! Buzz main page to read and at some future point discuss stories, that will all change. Until then, that page is just a stepping stone to the Yahoo! main page, which is the end goal.</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/yahoobuzz-page.jpg" /></p>

<h2>Who should participate on Yahoo! Buzz?</h2>

<p>From a content producer's/publisher's perspective, Yahoo! Buzz should without question be used by anyone publishing multiple posts a day on a site, or anyone that owns a network of blogs publishing content for different niches (heck you can automate the submission process). Networks like <a href="http://www.hearst.com/interactive_media/" target="_blank">Hearst Digital Media</a> and <a href="http://www.condenast.com/" target="_blank">Conde Nast Publishing</a> come to mind, but the strategy should also work for networks like <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/" target="_blank">Weblogs Inc.</a> and <a href="http://gawker.com" target="_blank">Gawker Media</a>. From a community member's perspective, Yahoo! Buzz's features are so limited that they would probably appeal to someone with a passive interest in social news, or someone just entering the space and wanting to get his or her feet wet. If you are interested in making friends, participating in heated discussions, etc., look elsewhere.</p>

<h2>What kind of content works on Yahoo! Buzz?</h2>

<p>It's a wry twist in the story. The people most interested in exploring Yahoo! Buzz and participating on the site are the digerati. But the kind of audience Yahoo! Buzz is designed to cultivate is quite the opposite. Before you give up in frustration, understand that the audience the site is supposed to appeal to is the same audience for the Yahoo! portal for news and entertainment. That's why you won't see a lot of insider Silicon Valley news featured and instead you'll see content from mainstream news outlets (a lot of syndicated content from Yahoo! News) about mainstream news events or entertainment.</p>

<h2>What's the future of Yahoo! Buzz</h2>

<p>Yahoo! Buzz is an interesting service because it has become an awkward balance between social news and mainstream news, where some of the basic social news and networking elements are intentionally missing. At the same time, it is also interesting because although the site made some buzz for supposedly dethroning Digg, the prevailing social news champion, the site doesn't compete with it and is not cannibalizing the social news audience. If anything, people who use Yahoo! Buzz may very well over time switch to sites with more robust social news and networking capabilities.</p>

<p><em>This is a guest post by <a href="../">Muhammad Saleem</a>, a social media consultant and a top-ranked community member on multiple social news sites. You can <a href="http://twitter.com/msaleem">follow Muhammad on Twitter</a>.</em></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Manish Pandey on 2008-08-26</title>
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        <name>Manish Pandey</name>
        <uri>http://www.manishpandey.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yahoo Buzz! at first looked very interesting, but is certainly not. The news that are featured to the main page isn't an odd post from smaller blogs.</p>

<p>It has to make many changes before it could find any place as being called a "social" site.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T05:28:06Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Leo on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Leo</name>
        <uri>http://zenhabits.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For most bloggers (other than those in the top 10-15 of Technorati perhaps), Yahoo Buzz isn't worth the effort or worth the space required to have a Buzz button on a post. If you get the highest vote count of the day, and your other metrics are also high, but don't get promoted to Y! front page, it's a huge disincentive to participate.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T05:54:23Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7105-comment:64862</id>
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    <title>Comment from MoiN on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>MoiN</name>
        <uri>http://www.anewmorning.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Very nice article! Did experience the buzz, was on their mainpage for 2 days straight.. and i don't think 300 people came to the full extent.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T06:11:44Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7105-comment:64863</id>
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    <title>Comment from Taylor on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Taylor</name>
        <uri>http://www.govit.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I don't see a social news site here.<br />
-- There's no comments<br />
-- No friends, followers and fans<br />
-- Even your votes don't count. You can't vote up items to yahoo.com.</p>

<p>The only thing users can do is submit stories; what's the fun of that???</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T06:18:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Nigel Eccles on 2008-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Nigel Eccles</name>
        <uri>http://www.hubdub.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yahoo Buzz is interesting but I don't really think it is social news. As Taylor points out no friends, comments and votes don't really matter. I could submit stories to any news site (tips@...) so I don't think that is such a big deal.</p>

<p>Yahoo is a big deal in that it is the biggest start page on the web which can drive masses of traffic. But I think until they make Yahoo Buzz social, it should just be called a PONS (Plain Old News Site)!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T10:59:11Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7105-comment:64882</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jessica Brylan on 2008-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jessica Brylan</name>
        <uri>http://ventless-gel-fireplace.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey look.  The article has diggs.  Can you buzz diggs and digg buzz?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T13:17:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7105-comment:64884</id>
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    <title>Comment from Gunnar Andreassen on 2008-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Gunnar Andreassen</name>
        <uri>http://www.gunnarandreassen.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Seems Buzz istn that social after all, still an ok news site.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T13:31:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7105-comment:64911</id>
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    <title>Comment from adrian keys on 2008-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>adrian keys</name>
        <uri>http://www.jollyjo.tv</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I had great anticipation since reading about Buzz here and on TC but since they have opened up I have been more mystified that anything else.</p>

<p>Just seems like a lifeless black hole...a black hole at that not easily gamed... </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T17:58:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Spencer on 2008-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Spencer</name>
        <uri>http://www.poopsale.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I just think it's funny that this story is a digg it, when you're talking about a different company trying to do the same thing. You suck Yahoo! Just get over it! Buy a DS that prints money! IT PRINTS MONEY!!!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.poopsale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.poopsale.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-27T22:50:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Roschelle Nelson on 2008-08-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Roschelle Nelson</name>
        <uri>http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>have just incorporated the buzz up button to posts on my site. I guess it's to early to tell. May never be able to tell.</p>

<p><a href="http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Sagacious Rambling</a><br />
<a href="http://admissiblebanter.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Admissible Banter</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-28T08:57:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Hasan Saleem on 2008-08-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Hasan Saleem</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>They lack a lot of features as compared to Digg but they are not done as yet. I have gone through the Buzz's help and FAQ where they said they will have most of the features pointed out in this article.</p>

<p>As for the traffic, it is huge and very talkative as you mentioned. I had my very first story on Yahoo's Home Page with 50 votes and Man it was something I had never experienced ever before.</p>

<p>Worth a try.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-28T08:59:24Z</published>
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