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    <published>2008-09-12T02:21:06Z</published>
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    <title>Dude, Where&apos;s My App? 10 Web Apps We Wish Hadn&apos;t Disappeared</title>
    <summary>Dude, Where&apos;s My App? 10 Web Apps We Wish Hadn&apos;t Disappeared</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Richard MacManus</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/dude_car.jpg" />We track hundreds of web apps  here on ReadWriteWeb. Some, like YouTube and last.fm, become our favorites and prosper. But others sadly close down, or whither away due to not many people using them, or suddenly stop working for one reason or another (the bills are too high, the RIAA gets on their back, the developer doesn't have time, or a myriad of other reasons). Here is a list of 10  web apps that are no more, that we at ReadWriteWeb miss and wish were still operational.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Muxtape</h2>
<p>Popular playlist sharing site <a href="http://muxtape.com">Muxtape</a> got <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/riaa_takes_down_muxtape_will_f.php">taken down by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA)</a> in mid-August and it is unfortunately still non-operational. The fact is that Muxtape didn't pay its internet radio licensing fees. In our recent <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/future_of_online_music_discussion.php">RWW Live podcast on online music</a>, Lucas Gonze (creator of similar playlist service Webjay, which was acquired by Yahoo in 2006) said that Muxtape was &quot;trying to become a big service, i.e. get too big to fail and so cut a deal [with labels].&quot; Unfortunately Muxtape failed to escape the notice of the RIAA.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/muxtape_woes.jpg" /></p>
<h2>NetShare (iPhone app)</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/netshare.jpg" align="right" />Nullriver's <a href="http://www.nullriver.com/products/netshare">NetShare</a> was an iPhone app that, <a href="http://gizmodo.com/5032292/netshare-pulled-from-iphone-app-store-again">according to Gizmodo</a>, allowed you to tether your laptop to your iPhone using the handset's 3G modem as your laptop's own. Basically this let you have full Internet access on your laptop without Wi-Fi, for free. There was talk that this violates AT&amp;T's terms of service, but whatever the reason the app has been pulled from Apple's App Store. The last message on the site is dated 4 August and states: &quot;We're working with Apple to get NetShare back up on the AppStore.&quot; But we're not holding our breath.</p>
<p><em>Image courtesy of Gizmodo</em></p>
<h2>The CLQ</h2>
<p>Adam Steinberg of <a href="http://www.eventvue.com">EventVue</a> wrote in to tell us that he misses <a href="http://theclq.com/">The CLQ</a> (the acronym stands for Champions League for Quake style games). It's an app that kept track of &quot;millions of game players (Quake, Unreal, Half-life, Tribes, etc.) on thousands of online game servers.&quot; It was a very popular app in its niche, however it was stopped. The developers claim that this was due to &quot;incredible amounts of e-mail, GameSpy monopolizing access to game servers, constant upgrading of hardware and software to process increased traffic, games getting their own statistics, etc.&quot; </p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/clq_screenshot.jpg" /></p>
<p>The good news for CLQ fans is that one of the developers, Nico de Vries, is currently working on a version 2.0.</p>
<h2>PubSub</h2>
<p><img alt="pubsub" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/pubsub-logo.gif" width="95"
height="31" align="left" /><a href="http://www.pubsub.com/">PubSub</a> was one of our favorite 'future search' products back in the early days of web 2.0 - you could enter keywords and the product would deliver search results to you automatically. This feature is now common place in news sites, for example Google News  has it, but back in '03-'05 PubSub was an innovator. </p>
<p>So it was a great product, but PubSub <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_sad_decline.php">spectacularly imploded in mid-2006</a> after founder Bob Wyman blogged about &quot;internal political issues&quot;. Wyman left the company shortly after and the product sunk along with its creator. Perhaps PubSub will rise again, because apparently it still exists today. Here is the message on its frontpage currently:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/pubsub_new.jpg" /></p>
<p>Others have risen since to take over the reins in future search. A few of our favorites are <a href="http://zaptxt.com/">ZapTXT</a>, <a href="http://www.feedrinse.com/">FeedRinse</a> and <a href="http://www.blastfeed.com/">BlastFeed</a>. We discussed those and other services <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/blastfeed_and_future_of_rss_filtering.php">here</a>. But we'll always have a soft spot for PubSub...</p>
<h2>AllPeers</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/allpeers_logo_mar08.jpg" align="right" />In March we heard that  P2P browser plug-in <a href="http://www.allpeers.com/">AllPeers</a> had <a href="http://www.allpeers.com/blog/2008/03/03/allpeers-service-shutting-down-today/">shut down</a>, a blow to a market that seemed <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/skyrider_and_p2pfuture.php">very promising back in 2006</a>. AllPeers set out to add &quot;file sharing to the web browser&quot;. Technically the service seemed fine, however the reason for the closure according to the company was that &quot;we have not achieved the kind of growth in our user base that our investors were expecting, and as a result we are not able to continue operating the service.&quot;</p>
<h2>Scrabulous (Facebook app)</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/scrabulous-logo.jpg" align="left" />We reported <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/goodbye_scrabulous_hello_scrabble_by_mattel.php">in April</a> that <a href="http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=3052170175">Scrabulous</a>, the extremely popular but unauthorized Scrabble Facebook app, was under fire from Hasbro and Mattel. Those two companies own the rights to Scrabble - Hasbro in North America, and Mattel in the rest of the world. In July the bigcos had their way and <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_bigger_questions_behind_the_scrabulous_shutdown.php">Scrabulous was taken offline</a>.</p>
<p>After more legal <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080826-facebook-yanks-international-access-to-scrabulous.html">ducking and weaving</a>, in which the app was first pulled in North America and then internationally too, the app got re-born under the name <a href="http://www.facebook.com/s.php?q=wordscraper&init=q#/apps/application.php?id=2521910901&ref=s">Wordscraper</a>. It uses circles instead of Scrabble-like square tiles. Unfortunately the change isn't proving too popular. This comment by a Facebook user is an example of the reaction:</p>
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  <p>&quot;I loved Scrabulous !<br />
    Wordscraper is kinda the same but I do not like the round tiles , it makes it difficult to play , kinda messes everything together, change it to SQUARES and it would be alot better.&quot;</p>

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  <p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/scrabulous_game.jpg" /><br />
  <em>The old version, with squares</em></p>
  <h2>Pandora</h2>
  <p>OK you can still use Pandora in the US, despite <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/pandora_on_the_verge_of_closing_shop.php">concerns that it might be on the verge of closing</a>. But those of us who live outside the US haven't been able to access this lovely music discovery service for too long a time. </p>
  <p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/recommendation_engines5.jpg" /></p>
  <h2>Qumana</h2>
  <p>Tris Hussey tweeted to tell us that <a href="http://www.qumana.com/">Qumana</a> was a great java-based blog editor, &quot;easy and light.&quot; Unfortunately it is not being updated anymore and the homepage isn't accessible.</p>
  <h2>Crgslst</h2>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/crgslstlogo.jpg" align="left" />Back in March <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/crgslst_the_endangered_sexy_craigslist_search_tool.php">we reported on</a>  a very slick multi-city search tool for <a href="http://craigslist.org">Craigslist</a>, called  <a href="http://crgslst.com">crgslst</a>.  As we noted, Craigslist itself doesn't offer a multi-search service.  By combining the publicly available RSS feeds from Craigslist with AJAX, crgslst fills this need "so fast, we left the vowels behind." We noted at the time that crgslst may be in violation of the Craigslist terms of use and could face the same shutdown that other similar projects have in the past.  </p>
<p>Indeed this has turned out to be the case. Currently when you visit crglst, you are greeted with this despairing pop-up message:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/crglst_help.png" /></p>
<h2>ShareYourOPML</h2>
<p>This site for sharing OPML files was &quot;retired&quot; by creator Dave Winer in January. He <a href="http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/01/23/shareopmlorgRetired.html">wrote at the time</a> that &quot;now that Google and Bloglines both have discovery mechanisms, based on what you and others like, there would only be a future for SYO if it were a thriving and growing community, and it isn't.&quot;</p>
<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/toluu.png" align="right" />The good news for OPML fans is that <a href="http://www.toluu.com/">Toluu</a> has risen to fill the void. We <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/10_reasons_why_youre_going_to_love_toluu.php">reviewed it in March</a>, noting that it lets you share your OPML with others in order to discover new feeds, see what your friends are reading, and even discover new people who share your same interests. We were impressed by the service, even more so in May when <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/toluu_gets_updated.php">enhancements were announced</a>.</p>
<p>So perhaps, sometimes, there is a silver lining in the dark cloud of web apps that close or get shut down!</p>
<h2>Have Your Say</h2>
<p> Tell us in the comments which web apps have disappeared in recent times that you used to love. Also let us know if anything has come along since that you perhaps like even better.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from cohnsey on 2008-09-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>cohnsey</name>
        <uri>http://www.ca4it.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Pandora is lame. Just because a group has a similar sound to a group I like doesnt make it good as well.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T04:55:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from paullmf on 2008-09-11</title>
    <author>
        <name>paullmf</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Re Netshare. Is that the only way to use your iPhone as a laptop modem, or just your fave?<br />
Seriously, my NO.1 reason for a FAST 3.5g phone (O2 Atomlife) is this use. <br />
Or as as geek advert might go, "Is that a modem in ur pocket, or you just pleased to see me?"<br />
 </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T06:54:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from SteveG on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>SteveG</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I miss AllPeers everyday</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T07:08:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from gee on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>gee</name>
        <uri>http://www.remobo.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Theres an app called Remobo that could fill the AllPeers void. It let's you create private BT swarms with your friends and you can use any bittorrent client you want.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T08:44:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jean-Marc Liotier on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jean-Marc Liotier</name>
        <uri>http://serendipity.ruwenzori.net/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>About the defunct PubSub - The publish-subscribe model is currently a hot topic for social applications in the XMPP community. Projects such as <a href="https://dev.rabbitmq.com/wiki/RabbiterFederation" rel="nofollow">Rabbitmq</a> look promising, but there are a few others brewing underground while the specifications settle down and the use cases are hammered out. Open conversational microblogging will profit hugely from these advances.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T09:07:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from matt on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>matt</name>
        <uri>http://bizroof.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br />
require_once ("Facebook_App/Top_Friends"); //404 Not Found</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T10:37:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from fershur on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>fershur</name>
        <uri>http://fershur.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I actually like Pandora, however they need to work on their engine and variety of songs. For a couple of hours it is fine, but seem like it always repeats the songs.</p>

<p>IMO the best one was Netshare. I was not able to catch it before they removed it, that one I would probably use every day. Though I have heard that AT&T and Apple might be working on a service of some kind, for a fee of course :-P.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T13:16:44Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Todd</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What's the overriding theme here?</p>

<p>Our litigious society gone totally insane? Patent trolls dictate what we, the long suffering Consumers, can and cannot do?</p>

<p>Would the patriots who participated in the Boston Tea party have put up with this?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T13:44:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Caleb Elston on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Caleb Elston</name>
        <uri>http://www.toluu.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the Toluu mention Richard. We couldn't find anyway to share the RSS feeds you read with friends, or discover new interesting feeds based on your interest, so we built Toluu.</p>

<p>Caleb<br />
Toluu</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T14:25:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alex on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex</name>
        <uri>http://www.recentnews.co.uk/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Muxtape was very good! A regret so much!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T14:28:30Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from monsur on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>monsur</name>
        <uri>http://www.monsur.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can I kick it old-school for a sec?  I lived off Kozmo.com, both in Seattle and then NYC, when it was around.  It was the one site that nicely bridged the online and offline life, and nothing has swooped in to take its place.  Even after all the web 2.0 hubub of recent years, Kozmo.com is the one site I truly miss.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T14:58:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andy Denton on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andy Denton</name>
        <uri>http://www.realty.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Replacement suggestions:</p>

<p>Muxtape = <a href="http://mixwit.com" rel="nofollow">http://mixwit.com</a><br />
Pandora = <a href="http://listen.grooveshark.com" rel="nofollow">http://listen.grooveshark.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-09-12T15:38:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Anonymous Coward on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Anonymous Coward</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I miss OiNK.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-12T15:41:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Tris Hussey on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tris Hussey</name>
        <uri>http://www.trishussey.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.trishussey.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the mention Richard. Glad Qumana made the cut (sorta). The thing I miss most about Q is the DropPad fo gathering content. No one has replicated it yet.</p>

<p>Wasn't it feedster that was like pubsub as well? It seems that blog search has been handed to Google mostly.</p>

<p>IceRocket is still alive and kicking, which I think gets results for new blogs faster.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-12T17:07:11Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66540</id>
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    <title>Comment from Bob Wyman on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bob Wyman</name>
        <uri>http://wyman.us</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://wyman.us">
        <![CDATA[<p>Of the many things that a startup must get right, two of them are:<br />
* Timing<br />
* Business Partners.<br />
With PubSub.com, I blew it on both counts. Clearly, I picked the wrong business partners, but I won't go into that now. Our timing may have also been off terribly...  The realtime "tracking" that PubSub.com provided a few years back was, I think, clearly "before its time." But, today, we can see that with Twitter, Google Alerts, IdentiSpy, etc. this capability is very much in demand and its value is better appreciated today than it was then. There are many things that we might have done differently with PubSub.com, but the reality is that we may simply have come too soon to market. </p>

<p>The original idea for what became PubSub.com is something I came up with in 1984 (24 years ago) but I was very aware that it was then "too early." The network infrastructure simply didn't exist then outside a small number of corporate networks. So, I waited patiently as the infrastructure was built out over the years. I actually thought during the mid-90's excitement about "push" technologies that I might have waited too long -- but "push" fizzled as others discovered that there simply wasn't enough infrastructure, demand or business models to support the paradigm outside specialized realms like the finance markets. Finally, in 2001 I decided that the time had finally come and I began the efforts that developed into PubSub.com. After having sat on the idea for something like 17 years, I thought it was time. It looks like I was wrong and probably should have waited longer. I'm guessing that last October would have been a good time to start PubSub.com...</p>

<p>I am pleased that much of the foundation that we worked hard to develop for PubSub.com is actually being used today. Today we see an increase in interest in using XMPP for messaging, Atom Entries as the format for encoding information, and XEP-0060 (XMPP PubSub) as a foundation protocol. This is all stuff that we contributed to defining while at PubSub.com and I look forward to using it in the future.</p>

<p>I've got other ideas that I've been sitting on for years... Hopefully, I'll do a better job of timing when I finally decide I'm ready to bring them into the light. The next time, I'll also be much more careful about choosing my partners...</p>

<p>bob wyman</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-12T19:13:27Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66549</id>
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    <title>Comment from me.krishworld.com on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>me.krishworld.com</name>
        <uri>http://www.krishworld.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.krishworld.com/blog">
        <![CDATA[<p>Well, you have missed docsyncer from the list.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-12T20:38:09Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66556</id>
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    <title>Comment from rexrange on 2008-09-12</title>
    <author>
        <name>rexrange</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>One of the biggest pains about craigslist is its "local or die" mentality. In an age of global communications, craigslist is structured to pretend that each of us should only conduct business (e.g., run ads) in one area. That's why crgslst was a valuable tool...and craigslist are also "tools" IMHO for not finding a way to do business with the crgslst-ers and making it a useful adjunct (admittedly bolt-on) to craigslist.<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-12T23:26:16Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66624</id>
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    <title>Comment from M. Bartok on 2008-09-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>M. Bartok</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I am in hope that the RIAA will slip into bankruptcy and in as much as these old moguls are always sueing all types of people and as many times they have improperly sued folks and a few cases have turned around on them and slapped them in the face!</p>

<p>My hope is that a group of people will band together with a very clever law firm and mass sue the RIAA for a million dollars each or more in a group of a few thousand people and clean out the RIAA’s funds, to put these dinosaurs into a long overdue expiration!</p>

<p>There will be no peace or significant growth in the music business or satisfaction for music fans, customers and artists until these old manipulative, greedy, slave driving, dictating mafia guised under the names of the RIAA, CRB and Sound Exchange ( Sony, Warner, EMI, BMG and susiduary corporate labels ) are offically expired!</p>

<p>M. Bartok<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-13T21:02:06Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66630</id>
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    <title>Comment from mave on 2008-09-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>mave</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Pandora was OK, but last.fm is just as good, with the added bonus that you can actually discuss musical interests with people of varying tastes and backgrounds. There are some lame elements to it - the whole social networking thing is a bit over the top these days - but for the most part it's really quite good. </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-13T22:13:00Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66638</id>
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    <title>Comment from factoryjoe.com on 2008-09-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>factoryjoe.com</name>
        <uri>http://factoryjoe.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://factoryjoe.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>I'd also add Skobee.com to the list. The site is still running, but no one really uses it, even though I thought the flow was very good.</p>

<p>Fortunately I was able to convince Noam to open source it... </p>

<p><a href="http://code.google.com/p/skobee/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/skobee/</a></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-14T02:02:40Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66661</id>
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    <title>Comment from D. on 2008-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>D.</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I actually love Pandora.<br />
Sure, when I first started using it, it didn't turn out my kind of music. Now, however, it almost always turns out a good song.<br />
Agreed, after about three hours of playing (I usually have my laptop running Pandora in the background, while I work around the house), it does get a bit off track. So I just restart it. Simple solution.</p>

<p>As for replacements, there are other music sources galore. Last.FM, Grooveshark, MOG, Imeem, etc... but none (in my own opinion) match up to Pandora.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-14T17:07:01Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66662</id>
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    <title>Comment from bobby on 2008-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>bobby</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>hmm.. this is a bit sad and a bit scary for developer working high risk projects. but probably a good eye-opener..</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-14T17:13:42Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66669</id>
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    <title>Comment from ockwick on 2008-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>ockwick</name>
        <uri>http://www.voiedegun.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.voiedegun.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>I can personally say I don't miss these at all, in fact except for Pandora I have never used them nor even heard of them!?</p>

<p>ock.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-14T19:46:00Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66681</id>
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    <title>Comment from cglace on 2008-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>cglace</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>the clq rocked. If only they could bring back quake 2(lithium) with better graphics. . . </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-14T22:57:10Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66710</id>
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    <title>Comment from Serviced Apartments Bangalore on 2008-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Serviced Apartments Bangalore</name>
        <uri>http://manjunatharesidency.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://manjunatharesidency.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to scrabolous.. In india it is very popular and I used to play it everyday.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-15T06:35:53Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66734</id>
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    <title>Comment from Joe on 2008-09-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Joe</name>
        <uri>http://www.famtrek.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.famtrek.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>One that I truly miss is www.ListPic.com, when they provided a gallery view to Craigslist.  CL cut them off a while ago and they have tried to make a go of it using Oodle, instead.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-15T14:57:55Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66752</id>
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    <title>Comment from Bubba Jones on 2008-09-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bubba Jones</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>The original Napster!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-15T17:50:45Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:66827</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jake on 2008-09-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jake</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Speaking of disappearing apps... has anyone noticed that Omnidrive.com now brings up Amnesty Financial Plus? Perhaps Nik is giving a hint to his investors...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-16T09:42:53Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:67104</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jason on 2008-09-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jason</name>
        <uri>http://www.pbxer.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.pbxer.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p><br />
Pandora's fatal flaw is the assumption that the quality of music resides fully _inside_ the music. They ignore the fact that music actual exists in the world, and is listened to in some sort of context.</p>

<p>I'm not into metal, but old Metallica makes me nostalgic for one rebellious summer. Some awful, cheesy 80s tracks remind me of my first dance, etc. Listening to music based on "major key tonality" and "mixed acoustic and electric instrumentation" is robotic and unnatural. The only good thing about it is that it is a way to prevent exposure to new ideas (which might be useful if you were selecting music for a retail environment where change is bad thing.)</p>

<p>As for old apps. I kind liked Dave Winer's river of news (nytimesriver.com) (long gone). Also istockphoto before being bought out by some big stock photo company, was so much cheaper and better.<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-18T19:13:27Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:112150</id>
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    <title>Comment from whlooi on 2008-09-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>whlooi</name>
        <uri>http://www.bsl5.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.bsl5.com/blog">
        <![CDATA[<p>I miss Muxtape, it was very good! :(</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-28T03:09:36Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.7238-comment:112154</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marc on 2008-09-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marc</name>
        <uri>http://www.trumptheniche.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.trumptheniche.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Jason #29,<br />
What you described is the exact reason Pandora is successful, not its fatal flaw.  I have found numerous new artists and songs that I would've never found without it.  And the fact that I can listen to an entire song vs. last.fm preview is key as well.  A true radio station, and, the bill they were fighting for just passed the house and is on to the senate!  Congrats Pandora.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-09-28T04:38:46Z</published>
  </entry>

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