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  <updated>2009-11-23T18:01:48Z</updated>
  <title>Comments for Cloud Computing Panel at Web 2.0 Summit</title>
  
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    <published>2008-11-07T22:08:59Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-07T22:23:46Z</updated>
    <title>Cloud Computing Panel at Web 2.0 Summit</title>
    <summary>Yesterday, an all-star panel at the TechWeb/O&apos;Reilly&apos;s Web 2.0 Summit took a closer look at the implications of the current shift towards cloud computing and discussed the possible business models around it. The panel featured Adobe&apos;s CTO Kevin Lynch, Salesfore.com&apos;s CEO Marc Benioff, Google&apos;s Dave Girouard, and VMware&apos;s CEO Paul Maritz. The panel was moderated...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/websummit_logo_08.png" />Yesterday, an all-star panel at the <a href="http://en.oreilly.com/web2008/public/content/home">TechWeb/O'Reilly's Web 2.0 Summit</a> took a closer look at the implications of the current shift towards cloud computing and discussed the possible business models around it. The panel featured Adobe's CTO <a href="http://www.klynch.com/">Kevin Lynch</a>, Salesfore.com's CEO <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Benioff">Marc Benioff</a>, Google's <a href="http://www.google.com/corporate/execs.html#daveg">Dave Girouard</a>, and VMware's CEO <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Maritz">Paul Maritz</a>. The panel was moderated by <a href="http://tim.oreilly.com/">Tim O'Reilly</a>.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Moderator Tim O'Reilly asked the panelists about their companies' stake in cloud computing and how they thought about it in their specific businesses. VMware's President and CEO Paul Maritz sees his company's role as supplying businesses with the "underlying plumping" that will allow them to become more 'cloud-like' internally, and, through this, allowing them to leverage the external cloud as well.</p>

<p><img alt="summit_cloud_panel.jpg" align="right" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/summit_cloud_panel.jpg"  />Adobe's Kevin Lynch considers it his company's role to enable the "fourth generation of software" that will bring a fusion of cloud computing and rich desktop applications to users (by using Adobe Air, of course). At the same time, though, he also acknowledged that Adobe is looking at purely web-based applications with <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/adobe_launches_mobile_storage_service.php">Photoshop.com</a> and <a href="http://www.adobe.com/acom/">Acrobat.com</a>, though he sees Adobe's focus as being on enabling technologies.</p>

<p>In contrast to this, Dave Girouard, who manages Google's enterprise business, sees it as Google's mission to bring users "entirely into the cloud" and not just to create a "cloud-like" experience. Girouard also used this opportunity to chastise the enterprise computing world as 'stagnant' and 'unenlightened' when it comes to considering the user experience for its clients and employees.</p>

<p>Saleforce.com's CEO Marc Benioff mostly talked about the importance of developers in building applications on top of Salesforce.com.</p>

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<p>In the second part of the interview, the panelists spent most of the time talking about delivering value in the cloud and possible business models around cloud computing. </p>

<p>Comparing his company to Oracle and SAP, Benioff said they were "dying models" and comparing Salesforce.com to them would not even be fair.</p>

<p>Most of the panelists agreed that Microsoft's <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/windows_azure.php">entry</a> into the cloud computing business validated the market and, maybe unsurprisingly, argued that developers should look at the different options that are available to them now and decide which one would work best for the apps they are building.</p>

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    <title>Comment from mathew on 2008-11-07</title>
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        <name>mathew</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>so vmware aims to be a picks&shovels vendor for cloudiness - what other opportunities are there for picks&shovels products? </p>

<p>one thing that ive thought of recently is a 3d party layer that translates a company's existing sql into distributed queries for a new sharded db architecture that are rolling out / transitioning to - that seems to be a big pain point around re-architecting from a more traditional store - is that what cloudera will do?</p>

<p>mathew<br />
<a href="http://blog.blist.com" rel="nofollow">http://blog.blist.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-07T23:59:08Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mason Flint on 2008-11-07</title>
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        <name>Mason Flint</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dave Girouard's comment regarding Google's mission to bring  uses "entirely into the cloud" sounds like a pretty bleak world to me. I love the Web and what it does best; connecting me to information and connecting applications together. In some situations the Web is a really good way to do things; reading news, delivering music to my mobile devices, pushing stock quotes down to me etc. In other situations, Web-based applications are poor substitutes indeed for the experience I get on a PC or even on a phone. Moving everything to the Web misses the point entirely. Use the web for what it is good at and use local processing, storage and display when that makes sense. Would iTunes be half as good as a Web-only experience? I don't think so. iTunes is better becuase it provides a good client experence that consumes services. Heck, even Benioff understands the need/value for client apps. </p>

<p>Google is trying to turn something that can complement locally running software into the only choice for end-users. </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-08T01:52:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from rc on 2008-11-07</title>
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        <name>rc</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Moving everything to the Web misses the point <br />
just another trend</p>

<p>rc</p>

<p>trading tennis blog<br />
<a href="http://tradingtennis.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://tradingtennis.blogspot.com</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-08T05:55:29Z</published>
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