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    <published>2008-11-10T20:40:26Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-10T21:10:35Z</updated>
    <title>Sun to Distribute MSN Toolbar with Java</title>
    <summary>We have written a lot about Microsoft&apos;s struggle to gain back market share from Google in the search engine market. Microsoft&apos;s latest attempt at this is a distribution deal with Sun. Starting today, Sun will distribute the MSN Toolbar to users in the U.S. who download the Java Runtime Engine for Internet Explorer. Given that...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Frederic Lardinois</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="msn_java_logo.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/msn_java_logo.png" />We have <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/livecom_upgrade.php">written</a> <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/hitwise_microsoft_cachback_is.php">a</a> <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/microsoft_launches_new_live_search.php">lot </a>about Microsoft's struggle to gain back market share from Google in the search engine market. Microsoft's latest attempt at this is a <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-10LiveJREMPR.mspx">distribution deal with Sun</a>. Starting today, Sun will distribute the <a href="http://www.newmsntoolbar.com/">MSN Toolbar</a> to users in the U.S. who download the <a href="http://www.java.com/en/download/">Java Runtime Engine</a> for Internet Explorer. Given that Java is installed on virtually every computer, this new deal should give Microsoft's search market share a bit of a boost, as the MSN Toolbar uses <a href="http://live.com">Live Search</a> as its default search engine.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Favorable Business Terms</h2>

<p>We asked Sun for a statement about this deal and Eric Klein, Sun's VP of Java marketing, told us that "Sun carefully evaluates including value-added applications with the JRE on a number of levels - including business, technical, and user experience." Sun, according to Klein, found that Microsoft's toolbar provided a "great user experience." However, Klein also noted that "this agreement has favorable business terms for Sun."</p>

<h2>Better User Experience?</h2>

<p>It is arguable whether Live Search really provides a better user experience than Google Search (though the MSN Toolbar might actually be more useful for mainstream users than the <a href="http://toolbar.google.com/T5/intl/en/index.html">Google Toolbar</a>), but we can't help but wonder if the "favorable business terms" took precedence over the user experience here.</p>

<p><img alt="msn_toolbar.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/msn_toolbar.jpg"  /></p>

<h2>Market Share</h2>

<p>It will probably take a few months before we can really say if this deal will really boost Live Search's market share, but <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/153861.asp">according to Brad Goldberg</a>, the general manager of Microsoft's Search Business Group, about 35% of all search queries on Live Search come from toolbars, the address bar, or search forms built into the browser. This indicates that this deal with Sun does indeed have the potential to drive more traffic to Microsoft's search engine, but it remains to be seen if users will go along with this switch.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.12481-comment:116528</id>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Todd</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As I frantically delete any and all instances of the Java Runtime Updater on this machine, I say:</p>

<p>Ewwwww, yuck. You got MSN in my Java Virtual Machine! DO NOT WANT!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-10T21:31:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.12481-comment:116531</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris</name>
        <uri>http://www.evri.com/organization/sun-microsystems-0x4d15d.html</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It seems like their way of trying to cash in on the millions (billions?) of people that have Java installed. </p>

<p>It's interesting to see this move especially because I noticed a few videos on Evri's profile page for Sun where there's talk of how Sun views open source as the future of development innovation - <a href="http://www.evri.com/organization/sun-microsystems-0x4d15d.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.evri.com/organization/sun-microsystems-0x4d15d.html</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-10T22:05:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.12481-comment:116534</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kenton on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kenton</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/kentonsmith</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Boooooooo!!!!!!!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-10T23:51:07Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.12481-comment:116535</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mark Derricutt on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mark Derricutt</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/talios</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wishing friendfeed had a "does not like" flag here - mind you - I use OSX/linux so it doesn't affect me.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-10T23:52:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.12481-comment:116536</id>
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    <title>Comment from Karim on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Karim</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hahaha.  and the circle is complete.  Flashback to October 2005, when the tech world was abuzz with rumors of a pending Sun-Google agreement that threatened to destroy "teh Micro$oft hegemony" and End The World As We Know It.  Turns out Sun just decided to distribute the Google Toolbar with Java.  Leaving everyone asking, "Is that all?"  (http://news.cnet.com/Google-and-Sun-deal-Thats-it/2100-1012_3-5888798.html)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-11T00:07:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from venkat on 2008-11-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>venkat</name>
        <uri>http://computersservicing.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is yet another move from Microsoft to increase its market.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-11T04:50:01Z</published>
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