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    <published>2008-12-30T15:44:17Z</published>
    <updated>2008-12-30T16:25:57Z</updated>
    <title>Your Google Docs May Be Open to Hijacking</title>
    <summary>In July of this year, Google finally gave webmail users a way to make sure that Gmail always used SSL - the protocol that encrypts connections to prevent hijacking. Through a flip of switch in Gmail&apos;s settings, users could rest assured that their email was at least less vulnerable, if not totally secure from hackers....</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Sarah Perez</name>
      <uri>http://www.sarahintampa.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/googledocs-logo.jpg">In July of this year, Google finally gave webmail users a way to make sure that Gmail always used SSL - the protocol that encrypts connections to prevent hijacking. Through a flip of switch in Gmail's settings, users could rest assured that their email was at least less vulnerable, <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=842">if not totally secure</a> from hackers. However, Gmail is not the only Google-based web application where you may be storing personal data. Your files stored in <a href="http://docs.google.com">Google Docs</a> should be protected, too. But are they? </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<h2>Who Has Secure Docs?</h2>

<p>For many users of Google Docs, that answer is "no." According to <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=100181">Google's Help Topic on SSL</a> as well as their <a href="http://www.google.com/apps/intl/en/business/editions.html">Google Apps Edition comparison guide</a>, <strong>SSL is a feature only made available to users of Google Apps Premier and Education Editions</strong>. However, in some informal testing on our part, it appears that users of Google Apps for Your Domain were given that option as well, despite the fact that their Google Apps edition clearly reads "Standard." For everyone else, though, Google Docs remains an unencrypted HTTP session. </p>

<p>In a business or educational setting where Google Docs is being used, your I.T. admin has probably turned on SSL for you by activating the feature that forces SSL sessions for all users. If they have not, though, you can still switch on SSL for yourself, says Google, but <a href="http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&amp;answer=100181">their help documentation</a> fails to explain how that can be done. All the documentation says is that <em>"your users can enable HTTPS when necessary." </em></p>

<p>What they probably mean is that anyone can type in <strong>"https"</strong> when entering in the URL for a Google Apps service in the address bar of their browser. Since your average internet user doesn't think about these sorts of things, though, that's probably not the best solution in terms of security. </p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/https_gmail.png"></p>

<p>While we hope that any I.T. admin in a corporate setting knows well enough how to enable a basic security feature such as this, it would still make us more comfortable if these sorts of things were enabled by default. The only reason to <em>not</em> enable SSL is because it can slow down your connection to Google services. Still, in the event of network issues, I.T. admins could temporarily disable this feature to speed up access for their users. But Google hasn't chosen to make security the default - they've chosen speed. </p>

<p>Outside of Google Apps, <strong>everyday users of Google Docs don't have an option in their Google Docs settings to force the service to always use SSL</strong>. Like those with a neglectful I.T. admin, these Docs users would have to remember to type in the "https" prefix if they want to use a secure connection. </p>

<h2>SSL Implemented Haphazardly</h2>

<p>Manually typing in "https" is all well and good, but let's face it - most users won't ever know to do this and those of us who do know won't remember. Not only is this process laborious, it's inefficient, too. For example, those who want to take advantage of the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_labs_offers_more_to_gma.php">Gmail Calendar and Docs widgets</a>, which allow for one-click access to other Google services from within Gmail, would have to forfeit a secure connection in order to do so. The only recourse would be to not use the widgets at all, and that certainly disrupts our workflow. </p>

<p>However, if you've enabled SSL within your Gmail settings, connections to your other Google services will also be encrypted if you use the navigation bar at the top left of your Gmail...but <em>only</em> if you use the navigation bar. Even when signed into your Google account, typing in "docs.google.com," "calendar.google.com," or using the Gmail widgets will still take you to the HTTP site. </p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/gmail_nav_bar.png"></p>


<h2>At Least They Have SSL...</h2>

<p>What's really unfortunate about this potential security issue is the fact that Google is actually<em> leading the way</em> among webmail and web app providers when it comes to offering SSL to its users. Although other free webmail services from Yahoo, Microsoft, and AOL, for example, may authenticate you upon login via HTTPS, they drop down to unencrypted mode immediately after the authentication is completed. </p>

<p>However, it could be argued that those other services are not claiming to be a secure replacements for business use. Since Google promotes Apps as a web-based alternative to expensive desktop software, many people mistakenly assume that means Google services are, in general, "pretty much" secure for personal use, too. Apparently, that's only true to a point. </p>

<p>It's also worth pointing out that nothing, not even SSL, can keep a determined hacker out of your account. As <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=842">ZDNet reported</a> at the beginning of the year, even SSL can't keep blackhats from hijacking your session through the use of "<a href="http://erratasec.blogspot.com/2008/01/more-sidejacking.html">sidejacking</a>," a trick that enables hackers to take control of any Web 2.0 app that relies on saved cookie information. <em>(There have also been <a href="http://www.smime.at/blog/2008/12/17/google-docs-serious-security-flaw/">other reports</a> of Google Docs security issues, but we couldn't reproduce the problem.)</em></p>

<p>Providing SSL to <em>everyone</em> is the least Google could do. And to the other webmail/web app providers out there: it's time you followed suit. </p>]]>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121201</id>
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    <title>Comment from Daniele Muscetta on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Daniele Muscetta</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/dani3l3</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>that's why their services remain "BETA" versions forever... so if that stuff happens you can't blame them....</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T16:30:57Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121205</id>
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    <title>Comment from MKR on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>MKR</name>
        <uri>http://www.mkronline.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ordinary Google Docs doesn't have SSL? Odd, I always tack an s onto the protocol and it works fine.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T17:05:45Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121206</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris W. on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris W.</name>
        <uri>http://www.chris-wallace.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I would honestly never use Google Docs for collaborating on documents containing sensitive information. I use 37Signals project management for that kind of stuff.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-12-30T17:05:47Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121208</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kiran Patchigolla on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kiran Patchigolla</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/pgkiran</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thx for the article, I did not realize this issue. You take it for granted that Google services would ensure user security. </p>

<p>SSL might not be enough, but its a first level security that would at least reduce the number of attackers. </p>

<p>SSL has to be enabled by default, if users worried about performance and not about security, they can turn it off.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T17:14:20Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121209</id>
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    <title>Comment from sofarsoshawnv09 on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>sofarsoshawnv09</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/sofarsoshawnv09</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>no kidding</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T17:16:13Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121211</id>
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    <title>Comment from MKR on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>MKR</name>
        <uri>http://www.mkronline.com/</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>And perhaps it's moot:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2339" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2339</a></p>

<p>D:</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-12-30T17:42:57Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121213</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kyle Maxwell on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kyle Maxwell</name>
        <uri>http://chromebits.net</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You can add it to NoScript's "force HTTP" list, but as you correctly point out, everyday Google Apps users can't do this (how many of them would even *want* No Script? answer: close to none).</p>

<p>Gmail offers the option to require HTTPS, it would be helpful here too.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T18:16:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from postlover on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>postlover</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I also don't collaborate with others on documents with google docs. I just print the doc I want to share and stuck it inside an envelope and then snail mail it to my collaborator. Much safer this way. </p>

<p>Then, my collaborator opens his/her mail envelope and transcribes *all the text* form the sheets of paper back into his/her computer.</p>

<p>Makes the necessary changes. Prints it out. Stucks it in an envelope and snail mails it back to me. </p>

<p>I'm much safer with this workflow.</p>

<p>Unsecure HTTP??? Hell, no!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T20:42:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121233</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kai on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kai</name>
        <uri>http://www.kai-mai.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You can use this simple Firefox greasemokey script(http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/29090) to force sites like Google docs to use ssl.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T21:09:53Z</published>
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  <entry>
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    <title>Comment from Arne on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Arne</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>In Firefox you can also use the addon CustomizeGoogle, and in all browsers you can make a bookmark with the extra 's' in the url. That should do it! </p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-30T22:08:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Rich on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rich</name>
        <uri>http://www.mypetvideos.tv/publicworkscomics.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey...thanks for the heads up!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-12-30T22:32:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121256</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jabapyth on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jabapyth</name>
        <uri>http://jaredforsyth.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Theres a <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/748" rel="nofollow">Greasemonkey</a> <a href="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/14161" rel="nofollow">script</a> to fix this ;)<br />
<a href="http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/14161" rel="nofollow">http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/14161</a><br />
It forces all google services to go over https.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-12-31T00:42:26Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121274</id>
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    <title>Comment from AppBeacon on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>AppBeacon</name>
        <uri>http://appbeacon.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I can't imagine anyone using Google Docs for any reason even if they fixed the security issues.  Zoho Docs outclasses Google Docs in every way.</p>

<p>One note : To get https for all pages while in Zoho, you have to go to "Account Settings" -> "My Account" -> "Preferences" and select "Always use secure (https) access" .  Then, logout and log back in.</p>

<p>Full Disclosure : I use the Google Apps for Your Domain for all my email and Zoho Docs for everything else.  Zoho has an email service, but.... Well, Gmail kind of rocks and I don't know about Zoho mail.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-12-31T06:50:37Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2008://1.13182-comment:121277</id>
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    <title>Comment from Review Critic on 2008-12-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Review Critic</name>
        <uri>http://www.reviewcritical.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This post was worrying given these security issues. Thanks for sharing the Greasemonkey script, I will be checking it out.</p>

<p>Cheers</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-12-31T07:35:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Em on 2009-01-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Em</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Yes, Firefox + CustomizeGoogle extension sorts it out... I've been using this ever since CustomizeGoogle came out with the SSL feature... so, for a long time!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-01-01T15:33:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from söve on 2009-01-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>söve</name>
        <uri>http://www.biancaboya.com/</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>thanks.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-01-02T17:38:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Alan Hunter on 2009-01-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alan Hunter</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I did not know.</p>

<p>I use www.bluetracker.com</p>

<p>SSL 128 bit encrypted all the time and easy to use</p>

<p>AH</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-01-14T18:01:28Z</published>
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