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    <published>2009-01-19T23:30:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-01-20T18:32:26Z</updated>
    <title>RWW Live: OpenID</title>
    <summary> In the second RWW Live of 2009, we go in-depth about a web standard that made big strides in 2008 and is being increasingly adopted by Internet companies big and small: OpenID. At the end of December, the OpenID Foundation announced its new Board - and we have several of those board members on...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/openidnetlogo.jpg" /> In <a href="https://apps.calliflower.com/conf/show/44514">the second RWW Live of 2009</a>, we go in-depth about a web standard that made big strides in 2008 and is being increasingly adopted by Internet companies big and small: <strong>OpenID</strong>. At the end of December, <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/openid_foundation_board_election_results_2008.php">the OpenID Foundation  announced its new Board</a> - and we have several of those board members on the RWW Live podcast show today. They are <a href="http://kveton.com/">Scott Kveton</a> and <a href="http://factoryjoe.com/">Chris Messina</a> from Vidoop, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/briankkissel">Brian Kissel</a> from JanRain, and <a href="http://www.davidrecordon.com/">David Recordon</a> from SixApart. As usual, RWW Live will be hosted by Sean Ammirati, with Marshall Kirkpatrick and yours truly (Richard MacManus) on the show.</p>
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      <![CDATA[<p>The show will be broadcast LIVE at <strong>3.30pm PST Monday (6.30pm EST)</strong>. We invite you to  tune in and interact with us via the chat, by <strong><a href="http://apps.calliflower.com/conf/show/44514">clicking here</a></strong>. You can also use the <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/calliflower/conf/show/44514">Calliflower Facebook app</a> to listen and participate.</p>
<p>Here are the details of our guests in this show (in alphabetical order):</p>
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  <li><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/briankkissel">Brian Kissel</a> is CEO at JanRain, Inc.</li>
  <li><a href="http://kveton.com/">Scott Kveton</a> is VP of Open Platforms at Vidoop</li>
  <li><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/">Chris Messina</a> is employed by Vidoop, runs Citizen Agency and works on the DiSo Project, facilitating the development of the &quot;Open Stack&quot; for the social web.</li>
  <li><a href="http://www.davidrecordon.com/">David Recordon</a> is Open Platforms Tech Lead at Six Apart.</li>
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<p>Some of the topics we'll explore on the show include:</p>
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	<li>How to increase adoption of OpenID</li>
	<li>Plans for the OpenID Foundation</li>
	<li>Opinions on Google Friend Connect &amp; Facebook Connect</li>
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<p>We welcome your suggestions, either in the comments here or by tuning in LIVE to the show - via <a href="http://apps.calliflower.com/conf/show/44514">Calliflower</a> or <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/calliflower/conf/show/44514">Facebook</a> - and participating in the chat room. </p>

<p><b>UPDATE:</b> the audio is available now.</p>
<p><embed src="http://talis-utils.s3.amazonaws.com/flvplayer.swf" width="320" height="20" allowfullscreen="true" flashvars="&file=http://www.readwritetalk.com/episode/RWWLive_OpenID.mp3&height=20&width=320" /><br/>Download <a href="http://www.readwritetalk.com/episode/RWWLive_OpenID.mp3">MP3</a></p>

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    <title>Comment from shopfiber.myopenid.com on 2009-01-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great discussion with an excellent panel. It seems at times that this problem is so monumental with so many complexities that it's hard to really make huge leaps forward. It's going to take a lot of patienance by all involved to see this through to success.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-01-21T02:03:03Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from bkkissel.myopenid.com on 2009-01-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks to the RWW team for the chance to share our thoughts on OpenID with your readers and listeners.  In only 60 minutes, we couldn't completely cover the three topics you had suggested, so I wanted to summarize some thoughts for those who may not have time to listen to the entire podcast.  </p>

<p><b>1. How to increase adoption of OpenID</b></p>

<p><b>Better user experience (UX).</b>  The URL type in box works for some users today, but not the mass market yet. Maybe that will change as users become more familiar with OpenID, but we're not waiting on that.  We’re working with end users and relying parties (RPs) to determine the “best practices” for UX, which may vary by industry and application.  The Content Provider Advisory Committee meeting in NYC <a href="http://openid.net/2008/10/01/openid-content-provider-advisory-committee-kickoff-meeting/" rel="nofollow">http://openid.net/2008/10/01/openid-content-provider-advisory-committee-kickoff-meeting/</a> and resulting Yahoo UX Summit gave us a lot of thoughts and feedback.  Some specific initiatives aimed at improving UX include Verisign’s Seatbelt, Google’s LSO initiative, Vidoop’s IDIB, JanRain's RPX <a href="http://rpxnow.com" rel="nofollow">http://rpxnow.com</a> , and SixApart's TypePad Connect.</p>

<p><b>More data for RPs.</b>  All the major OPs are starting to test and implement simple registration (SREG) and/or attribute exchange (AX) to allow users to share standard profile data with RPs including name, nickname, email, gender, DOB, zip code, time zone, language, etc.  This data makes it easier for users to register on a new site, and simpler for website operators to build profiles to personalize their users experiences.  Expect to see even more rich data (interests, friends data, lifestream data, etc.) coming from OpenID providers like the upcoming MySpaceID.</p>

<p><b>Proof Points.</b>  Get thought leaders in various categories to implement OpenID.  For example: Sourceforge & Stack Overflow (developer resources); UserVoice & Get Satisfaction (customer feedback); MapQuest (mapping services); MS HealthVault, AME Health Commission (health care); Plaxo (contact management); CNN, Interscope Records, DailyMotion, RadioPop, & StumbleAudio (media); National 4-H (affinity groups), Oxfam International (non-profits), Portland Trailblazers (sports), etc.</p>

<p><b>Easier deployment options for RPs.</b> Solutions to simplify deployment including blogging platform plugins (TypePad, Wordpress, etc.), Google Friend Connect, MySpaceID, JanRain RPX <a href="http://rpxnow.com" rel="nofollow">http://rpxnow.com</a> , Rails and .Net plugins, etc.</p>

<p><b>Market Research. </b>More thorough understanding of what various market segments want from OpenID. Expand beyond the Content Provider Advisory Committee to add additional Advisory Committees for other market segments and applications.</p>

<p><b>ROI Analysis.</b>  More case studies on quantitative and qualitative benefits for deploying and using OpenID.</p>

<p><b>Education.</b> The major OPs will begin more proactive education of their end users about how to use the OpenIDs they already have.  Additionally, the OpenID Foundation needs to do more seminars, conferences, and other outreach programs with press and analysts to promote awareness and understanding of what OpenID is and what the benefits are for end users and RPs.</p>

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<b>2. Plans for the OpenID Foundation</b></p>

<p>With the new board recently elected and an executive director search underway, we are still finalizing our plans for 2009, but the activities should align with the goals of driving adoption and usage of OpenID as described above</p>

<p><b>Technology.</b> We now have a solid technology platform and continue to work on extending and enhancing it: Provider Authentication Policy Extension (PAPE), Contract Exchange (CX), OpenID/Oauth, etc.</p>

<p><b>Research.</b> Increased emphasis on “voice of the customer” from end users and RPs – what do they want and need from OpenID and other user centric identity solutions (OAuth, Portable Contacts, Open Social, etc.)  We'll do this through our standing committees, working groups, participation in industry events, and advisory committees as discussed above.  Initiatives will certainly include technology specification development and enhancement, but also include services as requested by the market if within the charter of the Foundation.</p>

<p><b>Representation.</b> Expanded OpenID Foundation membership and representation on the board, especially from content providers (media and affinity groups) and other categories of existing and potential RPs.</p>

<p><b>Marketing outreach.</b> Systematically leverage press and analysts interactions, trade shows, blogs, etc. focused on awareness and education</p>

<p><b>Guidelines.</b> Best practice guides for OPs and RPs, tutorials, and other resources as requested</p>

<p><b>Expanded international outreach and coordination.</b>   We now have two international representatives on the OpenID board who have achieved significant results in Japan and Europe.  We're also adding an International Liaison to the Executive Committee of the OpenID Foundation.</p>

<p><b> 3. Opinions on Google Friend Connect & Facebook Connect</b></p>

<p>These are great catalysts for showcasing the benefits to website operators and end users of user-centric identity solutions as well as demonstrating compelling UX models.  Facebook and Google have been very involved in sharing their experiences and recommendations with the OpenID Foundation and other open standard initiatives, for which we’re grateful</p>

<p>The market will evolve to embrace the best of what all providers and vendors have to offer, some sites already accept both Facebook Connect and OpenID like Interscope Records <a href="http://www.interscope.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.interscope.com</a> , User Voice <a href="http://www.uservoice.com/session/new" rel="nofollow">http://www.uservoice.com/session/new</a> , Mixx <a href="https://www.mixx.com/login?return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mixx.com%2F," rel="nofollow">https://www.mixx.com/login?return=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mixx.com%2F,</a> etc.</p>

<p>One summary of the benefits of supporting multiple third party identity providers can be seen at  <a href="http://blog.janrain.com/2009/01/why-websites-should-accept-multiple.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.janrain.com/2009/01/why-websites-should-accept-multiple.html</a>  </p>

<p>Near term, offerings like Facebook may have an advantage in execution since they are a closed, proprietary system and can make decisions and implement solutions as decided by only one company.  Longer term, user-centric open standard solutions like OpenID, OAuth, Portable Contacts, OpenSocial,etc. will likely dominate since they have broader support from large players (AOL, Google, IBM, Microsoft, MySpace, Plaxo, Verisign, Yahoo, etc.) as well as an open standards community of individuals and small companies that innovate at a much higher rate than any one company could.  Additionally, there is significant benefit to end users and RPs to adopting open standards approaches vs. proprietary approaches in that interoperability is more likely to happen between websites and services that are open standards based.<br />
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