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  <title>Comments for Bespin: Could Your Favorite HTML Editor Live in the Cloud?</title>
  
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    <published>2009-02-13T07:00:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-02-13T08:24:57Z</updated>
    <title>Bespin: Could Your Favorite HTML Editor Live in the Cloud?</title>
    <summary>The Cloud. We save our data to it, create documents in it, collaborate in it. But coding in the cloud? That has remained a decidedly desktop-centric pursuit. Now, even that may be changing thanks to Bespin, a new prototype from Mozilla Labs. Flaunting thoughtful functionality and bearing an appropriately geeky name (a nod to the...</summary>
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      <name>Rick Turoczy</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="bespin.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/bespin.jpg" width="150" height="67" />The Cloud. We save our data to it, create documents in it, collaborate in it. But coding in the cloud? That has remained a decidedly desktop-centric pursuit. Now, even that may be changing thanks to <a href="https://bespin.mozilla.com/">Bespin</a>, a new prototype from Mozilla Labs. Flaunting thoughtful functionality and bearing an appropriately geeky name (a nod to the <a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Bespin">home of the Lando Calrissian managed mining colony</a>), Bespin aims to become your dream HTML editor - from within the cloud.<br />
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      <![CDATA[<p>Bespin was created with the hope of making HTML coding easier, more collaborative, and "wicked fast." And even in this early version, it does an admirable job of accomplishing that. </p>

<p>The "<a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/bespin/">initial experimental prototype</a>" features an impressive editing environment - with syntax highlighting, undo, import/export, and "preview in the browser," a command line, and a decidedly collaborative bent. There are also some thoughtful touches - like the blinking cursor.  </p>

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<p>All of that functionality stems from the Bespin team's goal of creating an HTML editor that mimicked existing editing environments and met developers' primary coding needs - while improving accessibility by divorcing it from the desktop. </p>

<p>Bespin's <a href="http://labs.mozilla.com/2009/02/introducing-bespin/">defining principles</a> include:</p>

<blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Ease of Use -- the editor experience should not be intimidating and should facilitate quickly getting straight into the code</li>
<li>Real-time Collaboration -- sharing live coding sessions with colleagues should be easy and collaboratively coding with one or more partners should Just Work</li>
<li>Integrated Command-Line -- tools like vi and Emacs have demonstrated the power of integrating command-lines into editors; Bespin needs one, too</li>
<li>Extensible and Self-Hosted -- the interface and capabilities of Bespin should be highly extensible and easily accessible to users through Ubiquity-like commands or via the plug-in API</li>
<li>Wicked Fast -- the editor is just a toy unless it stays smooth and responsive editing files of very large sizes</li>
<li>Accessible from Anywhere -- the code editor should work from anywhere, and from any device, using any modern standards-compliant browser</li>
</ul>
</blockquote>

<h2>Get Coding</h2>
Want to try it? That's the other nice thing about the Bespin prototype. It was <a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/bespin-a-new-mozilla-labs-experimental-extensible-code-editor-using-canvas">designed to be used immediately</a>:

<blockquote>"Even though this is a tech preview, where the goal was to share it with the community, we wanted to make the editor as solid as possible. It had to scale to a large number of lines and continue to remain very responsive."</blockquote>

<p>All it takes is a browser - like Firefox 3 - that supports the HTML 5 technology that underlies Bespin. We were able to register, boot up the editor, and begin coding within a matter of seconds. The interface was incredibly responsive. We didn't experience any lag or delays - the one caveat being that we weren't trying any heavy coding either.</p>

<center><img alt="BespinScreen.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/BespinScreen.jpg" width="600" height="392"  /></center>

<p>It's clear that a great deal of thought and attention went into this early version - and it's a safe bet that it will only get more impressive as time goes on.</p>

<h2>Dig Deeper</h2>
When you're ready to get serious, you can join the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/bespin">Bespin Google Group</a>, chat with other developers on <a href="irc://irc.mozilla.org/bespin">#bespin irc</a>, or dig into the <a href="https://bespin.mozilla.com/docs/">Bespin code documentation</a>. If you're interested in getting a look under the hood, all of the <a href="http://hg.mozilla.org/labs/bespin/">source code</a> is available under <a href="http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/">Mozilla Public License</a>.

<p>We hope you'll take an opportunity to test drive <a href="https://bespin.mozilla.com/">Bespin</a>. And then, we'd love to hear how close it comes to meeting your expectations of a "dream editor."<br />
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126482</id>
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    <title>Comment from Gen Kanai on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Gen Kanai</name>
        <uri>http://blog.mozilla.com/gen/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Bespin documentation is available here:</p>

<p><a href="https://bespin.mozilla.com/docs/" rel="nofollow">https://bespin.mozilla.com/docs/</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-13T08:16:07Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126483</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rick Turoczy on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rick Turoczy</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@Gen Kanai Thank you! The url was missing the "s" in "https." Corrected.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-13T08:26:09Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126484</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ben Galbraith on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben Galbraith</name>
        <uri>http://galbraiths.org/blog/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rick, thanks for the very generous review!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-02-13T08:34:33Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126492</id>
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    <title>Comment from Khürt Williams on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Khürt Williams</name>
        <uri>http://islandinthenet.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Bespin is not available for anyone using Safari 3.2.1.</p>

<p><br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/islandinthenet/3275737445/in/set-72157613728993145/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/islandinthenet/3275737445/in/set-72157613728993145/</a><br />
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    <published>2009-02-13T12:02:59Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126498</id>
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    <title>Comment from SWK on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>SWK</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Interesting that it doesn't work for Chrome because it's not a "leading browser."</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-13T14:07:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126504</id>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew Wise on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andrew Wise</name>
        <uri>http://wisestartupblog.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My biggest problem with anything in the cloud is my damn router. The cable modem either shuts down the Internet connection or my wifi drops, then I'm left with a worthless Google doc. With stuff like coding, you don't wnat to get interrupted with connectivity, you just need it to work.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-13T14:27:38Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126507</id>
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    <title>Comment from ahockley.myvidoop.com on 2009-02-13</title>
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        <name>ahockley.myvidoop.com</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Google Docs has shown that online text editing is workable, and HTML editing is really just text editing with some rules, so it makes sense to see specialized editors appearing.  Bespin looks interesting and I suspect it won't be the last specialized editor that appears.</p>

<p>An online editor that allowed one to choose a feature/syntax set would be VERY interesting.  Think of TextMate bundles... online.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-13T15:05:00Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126561</id>
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    <title>Comment from Kevin Dangoor on 2009-02-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kevin Dangoor</name>
        <uri>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Regarding Bespin's browser support, Safari 3.2 is not supported, but Safari 4 will be. (You can see for yourself by picking up the WebKit nightly at <a href="http://webkit.org.)" rel="nofollow">http://webkit.org.)</a></p>

<p>Bespin works in Chrome but is unbearably slow and we haven't pegged the exact reason why yet.<br />
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    <published>2009-02-13T19:37:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ivan on 2009-02-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ivan</name>
        <uri>http://www.phpanywhere.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hello all,<br />
It's not bad but i believe that a project I'm working on my prove more interesting to you all... </p>

<p>www.phpanywhere.net or labs.phpanywhere.net</p>

<p>Check it out, i think you'll like it.</p>

<p>Cheers!<br />
Ivan</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-14T09:44:38Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:126747</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ajay  on 2009-02-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ajay </name>
        <uri>http://readerszone.com/mozilla/mozilla-bespin-a-web-based-programming-environment-for-developers.html</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>bespin looks really looks reall a cool editor in cloud lets wait and watch what other feature will come to this <br />
is there any other cloud editors are available ?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-02-15T04:36:32Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from techblog on 2009-05-05</title>
    <author>
        <name>techblog</name>
        <uri>http://technologywebblog.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this review.Very useful.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-05-05T22:43:06Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:140302</id>
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    <title>Comment from neon on 2009-05-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>neon</name>
        <uri>http://drmneon.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Your web site is beautiful. issues are understood. very useful and descriptive. Thanks for sharing.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-05-30T20:58:50Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.13823-comment:153120</id>
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    <title>Comment from söve on 2009-08-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>söve</name>
        <uri>http://www.biancaboya.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Google Docs has shown that <a href="http://www.sove.name" rel="nofollow">söve</a> online text editing is workable, and HTML editing is really just text editing <a href="http://www.mantolama.name" rel="nofollow">mantolama</a> with some rules, so it makes sense to see specialized editors appearing. Bespin looks interesting <a href="http://www.biancaboya.com/sove/kartonpiyer.html" rel="nofollow">kartonpiyer</a> and I suspect it won't be the last specialized <a href="http://www.biancaboya.com/isi_yalitim/index.html" rel="nofollow">ısı yalıtım</a> editor that appears.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-19T12:10:17Z</published>
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