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    <published>2009-03-17T23:57:31Z</published>
    <updated>2009-03-18T20:32:02Z</updated>
    <title>SXSW Panel: Beyond Aggregation</title>
    <summary>One of the more popular panels at SXSW Interactive this year was one called Beyond Aggregation. The panel included our very own Marshall Kirkpatrick, as well as Gabe Rivera (Techmeme), Louis Gray (LouisGray.com), Melanie Baker (PostRank) and Micah Baldwin (Lijit). The topics revolved around information gathering and management. From the panel, Marshall and Louis had...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/sxsw2009logo.jpg" width="147" height="135" /></form>One of the more popular panels at SXSW Interactive this year was one called <strong>Beyond Aggregation</strong>. The panel included our very own <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/about_marshall.php">Marshall Kirkpatrick</a>, as well as Gabe Rivera (<a href="http://techmeme.com">Techmeme</a>), Louis Gray (<a href="http://www.louisgray.com/live">LouisGray.com</a>), Melanie Baker (<a href="http://www.postrank.com">PostRank</a>) and Micah Baldwin (<a href="http://www.lijit.com">Lijit</a>). The topics revolved around information gathering and management. </p>

<p>From the panel, Marshall and Louis had new sources and gathering tips, Gabe and Melanie weighed in heavily on how to manage information and Micah had some great suggestions on discovery of new information sources.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Here are some highlights from the panel. I have grouped all the comments together by panelist.</p>

<h2>Marshall Kirkpatrick</h2>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/marshallk">Twitter</a> - <a href="http://friendfeed.com/marshallk">FriendFeed</a></p>

<ul>
  <li>Marshall focused on using tools like <a title="FriendFeed" href="http://friendfeed.com">FriendFeed</a>, combined RSS feeds and <a href="http://www.google.com/coop/cse/">Google Custom Search Engines</a> (CSEs) to find the news he needs. </li>

  <li>He highlighted a post he wrote entitled <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_weirdest_stuff_on_the_internet.php">How to Find the Weirdest Stuff on the Internet</a> that describes how to use free tools to create a mashup that finds unique content.&#160; It uses tag clouds in Delicious, finds culture blogs, filters that output through PostRank, then finally pushes it through Feedburner. </li>

  <li>Finally, Marshall returned to how CSEs can work in conjunction with <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/search_power_drag_drop.php">drag and drop zones</a> to quickly search for content online.</li>
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<h2>Louis Gray</h2>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/louisgray">Twitter</a> - <a href="http://friendfeed.com/louisgray">FriendFeed</a></p>

<ul>
  <li>He uses <a href="http://reader.google.com">Google Reader</a> as his primary info-gathering tool.&#160; </li>

  <li>He shares his content from Google Reader to other resource sites such as <a href="http://del.icio.us">Delicious</a>, Friendfeed, and <a title="Twitter" href="http://twitter.com">Twitter</a>.</li>

  <li>Louis uses FriendFeed to find trusted sources for news and content. </li>

  <li>He pointed out the <a href="http://www.dailyradar.com/">DailyRadar</a> network of sites like <a href="http://macblips.dailyradar.com/">MacBlips</a> and <a href="http://gadgetblips.dailyradar.com/">GadgetBlips</a> that aggregate more niche content for discovery. </li>

  <li>Finally, Louis mentioned that in order to blog about new content, often the top priority is <em>good old fashioned networking</em>. </li>
</ul>

<h2>Gabe Rivera</h2>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/gaberivera">Twitter</a> - <a href="http://friendfeed.com/gaberivera">FriendFeed</a></p>

<ul>
  <li>Gabe Rivera uses Techmeme for selecting the best of what is out there. </li>

  <li>He described that Techmeme is based on an automated system that relies primarily on links between clustered stories to determine how much a story should be ranked, but has recently introduced a 'human element' in the form of <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/techmemes_new_editor.php">Megan McCarthy</a>, the new editor for the site. </li>

  <li>Marshall added that Gabe has some non-tech Techeme-style link blogs, like <a href="http://www.memeorandum.com/">Memeorandum</a> and <a href="http://www.ballbug.com/">Ballbug</a>. </li>

  <li>Gabe says entering new content areas is often difficult because an aggregator needs both fresh content and good metadata to be able to aggregate effectively. </li>
</ul>

<h2>Micah Baldwin</h2>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/micah">Twitter</a> - <a href="http://friendfeed.com/micah">FriendFeed</a></p>

<ul>
  <li>Micah says he often starts searching for new content by going to one of his favorite, most trusted bloggers, and then searching outward from there. He mentioned that there are a lot of tools to help with this, and Lijit is just one of them. </li>

  <li>As an example, he highlighted a Lijit-powered blog aggregator called <a href="http://www.securitybloggers.net/">Securitybloggers</a>, but he also stresses that influence of a blogger is important. Take recommendation + expertise and you will find new content. </li>

  <li>He said that the <a href="http://icanhascheezburger.com/">I Can Has Cheezburger</a> (ICHC) folks are always looking for the next big meme. A natural place to find new memes is applications like Friendfeed. </li>

  <li>Micah mentioned that ICHC just acquired Twittypic to create <a href="http://sonofatweet.com/">Son of a Tweet</a>, a tool<em></em> that leverages Twitter for finding funny pictures. </li>
</ul>

<h2>Melanie Baker</h2>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/aiderss">Work Twitter</a> - <a href="http://twitter.com/melle">Personal Twitter</a> - <a href="http://friendfeed.com/melledotca">FriendFeed</a></p>

<ul>
  <li>Melanie, in her role as community manager, gets her information from many sources but uses her company's product PostRank to filter stories by buzz and popularity. </li>

  <li>PostRank (formerly called AideRSS) is a system that measures engagement surrounding blog posts by tracking references on over 15 different social media sites, including site comments, <a title="Digg" href="http://digg.com" target="_blank">Digg</a>, <a title="FriendFeed" href="http://friendfeed.com" target="_blank">FriendFeed</a>, Furl, <a title="Twitter" href="http://twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a> and more.</li>

  <li>Melanie says there are plenty of communities out there to draw from, from her perspective of blogs that use PostRank and Lijit. </li>
</ul>

<h2>Wrap Up</h2>

<p>The audience asked what this process of discovering and collecting new sources of content online might be called. After a bit of discussion, the panelists decided the term <em>curation </em>works well, followed by <em>trusted discovery </em>and <em>trusted recommendations</em>. </p>

<p>Overall, we thought the panel exposed those listening to tips and techniques that, while part of a seasoned social media worker's toolkit, may not be leveraged as effectively by newcomers or light social media users. </p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130195</id>
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    <title>Comment from Online Universities on 2009-03-17</title>
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        <name>Online Universities</name>
        <uri>http://www.hattoss.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for disclosing techniques used by the mentioned geniuses. I use few but there are still many to follow.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T01:15:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130202</id>
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    <title>Comment from Francine on 2009-03-17</title>
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        <name>Francine</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/hardaway</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'd that everybody look to people outside Silicon Valley( yes, I'm biased) for good sources of new content. Actually, Mashable does this the best.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-18T02:56:13Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andy Edmonds on 2009-03-17</title>
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        <name>Andy Edmonds</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/andyed</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>More about the now then the ...</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T03:02:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130206</id>
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    <title>Comment from Phil Glockner on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Phil Glockner</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/eng1ne</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Francine -- I'm not sure I understand what you are saying?  Gabe and Louis are from Silicon Valley, but Marshall lives in Portland and, perhaps mostly in spirit, so does RWW.  I live here in Austin.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T03:41:16Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130207</id>
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    <title>Comment from Louis Gray on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Louis Gray</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/louisgray</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Micah is in Colorado, and Melanie is Canadian.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-18T03:52:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130222</id>
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    <title>Comment from Thomas on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Thomas</name>
        <uri>http://www.ecademy.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Please can someone tell me the Friendfeed ID for Michah Baldwin and Melanie Baker so I may follow their thoughts</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T08:29:02Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130225</id>
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    <title>Comment from Dominic/IRWebReport on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Dominic/IRWebReport</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Looks like the old three C's of journalism to me. Know what they are? (Update: I've explained them here <a href="http://bit.ly/147IEC)" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/147IEC)</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T09:23:01Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130243</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jim Murphy - AideRSS on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jim Murphy - AideRSS</name>
        <uri>http://postrank.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On twitter, Melanie is @aiderss or after hours @melle<br />
Micah is @micah</p>

<p>@Dominic/IRWebReport: Three c's of journalism: cash, cash?, crash! </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T12:43:00Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130257</id>
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    <title>Comment from Phil Glockner on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Phil Glockner</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I have updated the post to include the Twitter and FriendFeed links for all the panelists.  Good catch!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T15:25:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Web Laureate on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Web Laureate</name>
        <uri>http://web-poet.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>i was watching the twitter updates as this panel was happening.  it looks interesting.  there will be a lot to look back upon now that sxswi has come to an end - <a href="http://web-poet.com/2009/03/18/sxsw/" rel="nofollow">http://web-poet.com/2009/03/18/sxsw/</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T17:04:29Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14277-comment:130270</id>
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    <title>Comment from Phil Glockner on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Phil Glockner</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/eng1ne</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Before you put the link in Dominic, I Google'd "The Three C's of Journalism" and got: Clear, Concise and Correct.  But I like yours better.  ;)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-18T18:47:39Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jeremy Griffin on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeremy Griffin</name>
        <uri>http://www.twitter.com/jeremygriffin</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One possible term for this process could be "Guided Discovery".</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-18T20:25:47Z</published>
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