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    <title>Twine Could Soon Surpass Delicious, Prepares Ontology Authoring Tool</title>
    <summary>Twine Could Soon Surpass Delicious</summary>
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      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
      <uri>http://www.readwriteweb.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/twine/twine_logo.jpg">Nova Spivack's semantic web company <a href="http://twine.com">Twine</a> is developing a free service to write and host semantic ontologies; the classification trees that enable machines to put concepts in topical context. Ready to play Aristotle and create an ontology of cheese, model airplanes, global anti-hunger organizations or any other topic? </p>

<p>What blogging was to publishing, a simple tool that made far more people able to participate, Twine's new ontology writing and hosting service could be to the act of teaching machines about new topics.  </p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The company wouldn't let us publish the new service's name but says it is aiming for a launch date this year, as soon as a go-to-market strategy and appropriate partnerships are lined up.  The ontologies created won't only work on Twine; they will be referenceable by semantic apps anywhere around the web. </p>

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<h2>Twine Could Surpass Delicious in a Matter of Months</h2>

<p>Twine's public product lets people bookmark items like web pages and videos into topical collections.  The service then analyzes the contents of all the bookmarks to identify the key concepts, people, places and other information automatically.  It's like tagging in <a href="http://delicious.com">Delicious</a> but automated and, in theory, more thorough than any human being would be in assigning tags.</p>

<p>Compete.com says Delicious gets about 2 million unique visitors a month and has stopped growing.  Twine just passed 1 million uniques and is growing fast.  Spivack said that 40% of that traffic comes from Google, and sure enough those Twine pages look awfully juicy from a spider's perspective.  Spivack expects Twine to hit 2 million uniques in a matter of months and that looks like a credible claim to us.</p>

<p><img alt="twinetraffic.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/twinetraffic.jpg" width="608" height="248"></p>

<p>The number of saved items is far greater in Delicious than in Twine - about 150 million vs. 3 million.   Spivack says though that the company will soon turn back on its system that crawls all the links on bookmarked pages.   Those linked-to pages will be automatically bookmarked and analyzed too, quickly expanding Twine's total archives.</p>

<p>So by this summer, Twine could be bigger and more visited than Delicious.  We wrote <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/twine_disappoints.php">a scathing review of the Twine user experience</a> when the long-awaited service began to launch last year. The site has changed a lot since then and we're excited about the company's plans for the future.  We are still concerned about the company's ability to make its interfaces really usable -- but if they can, then look out, internet.</p>

<h2>Twine and the Semantic Web</h2>

<p>The semantic web is a paradigm that adds standardized, structured markup to web content so that savvy applications can comprehend the key topics of any web page.  Publishers can do that when they publish, or services like Twine can create the semantic markup from the outside.  The automatic tagging Twine does is actually semantic markup.</p>

<p>For example, you can't ask Google today to show you all the book reviews around the web that were written by friends of yours who live in New York - but semantic search engines could make such a query trivial and use that information as the ground level for building more sophisticated features on top. It's a form of standardized metadata.  It turns free text into data that can be mashed up.</p>

<p><img alt="ontologysite.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/ontologysite.jpg" width="609" height="515"></p>

<h2>Semantics Plus Ontology Equals Meaning</h2> 

<p>Spivack says that his existing product, Twine, is just one of a number of applications that only extract key concepts (people, places, key terms) out of a web page.  Placing those concepts in context is the next step.  </p>

<p>Twine can tell you that a web page is about goat cheese, for example, but it doesn't yet know how to infer that the page is also about a dairy product - the larger category that is not explicitly stated in the article.  An ontology is that context, be it a dairy ontology, a cheese ontology or a new node in the existing accepted <a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/owl-guide/food.rdf">ontology of food</a>.</p>

<p><ontological tree pic></p>

<p>Those new ontologies can be created using Spivack's simple, open source authoring tool and then hosted on his open source community site for ontologies.  It's open source authoring like Wordpress and code hosting and discussion like Sourceforge.</p>

<p>Either Twine or a third party will then combine the extracted "entities" (people, places, key terms) with an appropriate ontology and that company's "inference engine" to build a full picture of what a web page is about and where it stands in relation to everything else.</p>

<p><img alt="ontologyscreen2.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/ontologyscreen2.jpg" width="599" height="541"></p>

<h2>Busting Out of the Tech Ghetto</h2>

<p>The limited number of ontologies that have been authored to date are largely centered on technology topics.  An easy ontology authoring tool could change that radically.  A standardized, accessible ontology can shine a light on a whole new part of the world.  Once that topic has been illuminated for the eyes of a semantics reading machine, web developers can build services that intelligently make use of the new information.</p>

<p>Spivack says that heavy-duty ontologies that require computationally intensive logic navigation will still need to be built using heavy-duty desktop apps.  But web applications that just need data served up smartly will work well with the kinds of ontologies that can be written with Spivack's new authoring tool.</p>

<p>Ready for the whole, diverse internet to be contextually understandable by web applications?  Ready to contribute to the creation of those contextual explanations yourself?  Keep your eye on <a href="http://www.twine.com/user/nova">Nova Spivack</a> because that's what he's aiming to make happen.  <br />
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130073</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jeff on 2009-03-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeff</name>
        <uri>http://www.CitySpeek.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wow, interesting. I hadn't paid much attention to Twine but will now.</p>

<p>If they want to really grow, I hope they have FireFox add-on's in the works. I recently switched to delicious after Magnolia went down and the main reason I like Delicious is the slick FireFox add-on.</p>

<p>Give me a Twine add-on and I'll contribute like crazy.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T00:09:55Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Jorge Barba on 2009-03-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jorge Barba</name>
        <uri>http://stratige.net/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is nice. I've been using Twine since they came out of beta, I like and use it with delicious.</p>

<p>@Twine has a bookmarklet which you can add but if you download the shareaholic plugin for Firefox you get Twine and other social sites and it works pretty good!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T01:20:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall on 2009-03-16</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall</name>
        <uri>http://cloudnotes.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I've said so before, but Twine is just too slow to use on a regular basis. It's really too bad, because the site has so many features and so much promise.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T03:16:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130104</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael</name>
        <uri>http://socialrumble.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Good article. I hadn't heard of Twine before but I have now had a look at it and I can see me using it. Yes maybe it is bye bye delicious</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T07:32:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130106</id>
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    <title>Comment from Twinizen on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Twinizen</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That uniques growth has already been shown to be unreliable. There was a big brawl on Venturebeat about it.</p>

<p>It's spambots and Radar Networks' spam filters don't work. Their own internal count algorithms are also off.</p>

<p>Spambots are signing up fake accounts and posting porn and spam to Twine. </p>

<p>Also, Spivack's finally admitted user engagement is down at 3 minutes. It was at 16 minutes. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.semanticsincorporated.com/2009/02/as-promised-interview-with-twine-on-the-usability-question.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.semanticsincorporated.com/2009/02/as-promised-interview-with-twine-on-the-usability-question.html</a></p>

<p><br />
From that Venturebeat post, it seems there's way too many issues still with the service. Weird since they had a whole year of beta to iron out what are standard features and speed people expect.</p>

<p>Conceptually, the ontology tool seems interesting. If delivery is like the Twine UI, the slowness, the broken interest feed, the non-existent RDF, the user support etc. there are smarter places to get your daily news fix.</p>

<p>Like Kosmix. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T07:52:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130108</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Spivak is interesting, he certainly talks a good talk. </p>

<p><a href="http://personallifemedia.com/podcasts/236-buddhist-geeks/episodes/13028-does-web-buddha" rel="nofollow">http://personallifemedia.com/podcasts/236-buddhist-geeks/episodes/13028-does-web-buddha</a></p>

<p>The levelling off of Delicious pageviews seems natural to me, I've been using the service for 3-4 years but I can't remember the last time I actually hit the site... Delicious is tied directly into Ffox and I add 5-10 items a day. </p>

<p>Looking forward to the semantic web and this service looks like one of the first to crowd-source a solution... I'm hoping Delicious gets on-board and helps us make meaningful/semantic connections between tags and between tags and tag bundles.</p>

<p>One to watch I'm sure.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T08:00:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Yihong Ding on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Yihong Ding</name>
        <uri>http://yihongs-research.blogspot.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>cautiously, I look forward to this new advancement Twine claims. Certainly this is a great movement towards the Semantic Web. The problem is, however, how this eduction for machines will go when we have nearly no objects to teach. Who are going to learn? Computers, Twine, or the users of Twine. At least based on the current implementation of Twine, I am not so confident to this claim.  But certainly, however, I look forward to any surprise Nova might bring to me. </p>

<p>Good article, though, Marshall. Great work.</p>

<p>yihong</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T12:51:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Name on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Name</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How is this compared to freebase?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T13:10:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Semwebber on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Semwebber</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>'Twine --- a vision lost' written by one of their current frequent users who's been there a year, so knows Twine in some depth:</p>

<p>* <a href="http://www.twine.com/item/12263m184-1lr/a-vision-lost" rel="nofollow">http://www.twine.com/item/12263m184-1lr/a-vision-lost</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T13:56:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130138</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jim on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jim</name>
        <uri>http://www.thejimgaudet.com/blog/</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many people have signed up for Twine since this post? The Semantic Web sounds great to me, I can't wait to see what comes from this.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T14:23:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from zuttzu on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>zuttzu</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Way too complicated and bloated for my taste. I just devoted my entire attention span of a minute to this site and still have no idea what it's about. I guess it's semantic and full of smart but I just can't bother. I'll stick to Delicious.</p>

<p>Next, please.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T14:53:52Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from zuttzu on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>zuttzu</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>BTW, this article is too long. Fewer words is king.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-17T14:55:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Peter on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Peter</name>
        <uri>http://blog.hubspot.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While I think Nova Spivack is a visionary and technical genius, any user generated content site that relies on google for their traffic is not on stable grounds. Google has historically removed many user generated content sites from their indexes once they get more of their fair share of traffic. </p>

<p>I'd aslop argue that the most obvious way that ontologies will be used will be to improve relevance of search results. I don't see that happening commercially outside of Google. </p>

<p>But, it'd be awesome if Nova's team could pull it off. I'm not 100% betting against them. Looking forward to seeing their go-to-market strategy. Glad to see that's a priority from day one. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T15:02:46Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from mackb on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>mackb</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What is it with Nova and his "amazing new Application, but i can't show you or tell you too much" BS?</p>

<p>He guest wrote an article on TC last week about an amazing new technology (Wolfram Alpha, I believe), that he couldn't say too much about and now this, Twine's new Semantic revolution.</p>

<p>Maybe it is time for Nova to put up or shut up.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T16:49:07Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marcelo on 2009-03-17</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marcelo</name>
        <uri>http://yinosanchez.blogspot.com/</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I don't think page hits is a good way to measure the popularity of a service when one of them provides an API and great browser extensions while the other provides a bookmarklet and a daily mail digest, so I don't visit any of the sites too often. <br />
I think that the number of bookmarks and users is a better way to measure the popularity of these sites.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-03-17T19:01:41Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130240</id>
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    <title>Comment from Eğitişim Kariyer Enstitüsü on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Eğitişim Kariyer Enstitüsü</name>
        <uri>http://www.egitisim-blog.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.egitisim-blog.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>I think there is a problem on APIs</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-18T12:10:00Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130269</id>
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    <title>Comment from eurecia on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>eurecia</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>There´s always something "still to come" with twine.<br />
First they were the promising upcoming thing.. "Closed beta" open to everyone. A year went by, and the basic lack of functioning (like tagging, search functions and more) kept being a problem. No sign of the revolutionary thing Nova talked about - just some kind of bookmarking/tagging thing with an rss-feed (interestfeed). Its slow and doesnt work very well. And the inputforum for the beta users is closed.<br />
Nova is a good talker. He can talk the talk. But sometimes I wonder if he is more a smart salesman than a "visionary".</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-18T18:12:16Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130288</id>
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    <title>Comment from Smelling-a-rat... on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smelling-a-rat...</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>...or is it snake oil.</p>

<p>Nova's routine: use his prodigious writing skills, and legions of following lemmings to construct some half-believable notion about the amazing back-flipping that Twine can, or might, or could, or will, or would....do.</p>

<p>Result, he fools some of the people, and gets a few more sign-ups.  </p>

<p>Truth, Twine has no legs. Its propped up by a few semweb geeks. The numbers that on compete.com are coming from spambots, or bottom feeder advertising, or somewhere deep inside Nova's sitting area.</p>

<p>Nova, if the last few years have told us anything, its that we should call-out CEO who BS immediately, and often. Get off the stage, cut-back the hype, and focus on making your baby walk. Right now its crawling.  </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-19T03:38:03Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130289</id>
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    <title>Comment from Smelling-a-rat... on 2009-03-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smelling-a-rat...</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>...or is it snake oil.</p>

<p>Nova's routine: use his prodigious writing skills, and legions of following lemmings to construct some half-believable notion about the amazing back-flipping that Twine can, or might, or could, or will, or would....do.</p>

<p>Result, he fools some of the people, and gets a few more sign-ups.  </p>

<p>Truth, Twine has no legs. Its propped up by a few semweb geeks. The numbers that on compete.com are coming from spambots, or bottom feeder advertising, or somewhere deep inside Nova's sitting area.</p>

<p>Nova, if the last few years have told us anything, its that we should call-out CEO's who BS, immediately, and often. Get off the stage, cut-back the hype, and focus on making your baby walk. Right now its crawling.  </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-19T03:40:06Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130609</id>
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    <title>Comment from Dave (MIT CSAIL) on 2009-03-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Dave (MIT CSAIL)</name>
        <uri>http://www.mit.edu</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.mit.edu">
        <![CDATA[<p>We are pretty far away from the action but have heard from two reliable sources at Microsoft that Radar Networks could fetch $ 300 million today.  To the skeptics above, if Ross Levinsohn joined Twine's BOD you had better rethink your position.  This is the guy that got Google to agree to $1 billion annual minimums at Newscorp. He is as smart and sharp as they come. Congrats to Nova for having the balls to attempt the grand vision.  Berners Lee is 100% behind Twine.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-22T01:02:30Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:130692</id>
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    <title>Comment from Max on 2009-03-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Max</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>All assuming that people are going to just offer up their semantic onologies so they can build twines effectiveness and other peoples apps?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-03-23T06:58:58Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:131794</id>
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    <title>Comment from Smelling-another-rat... on 2009-04-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smelling-another-rat...</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>My, Dave @ MIT, for someone "pretty far away" you sure know a lot about Radar Networks.  Maybe Ross Levinsohn can help with the design and usability problems. </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-04-02T03:55:05Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:134234</id>
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    <title>Comment from Wayne on 2009-04-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Wayne</name>
        <uri>http://wdawe.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://wdawe.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Twine is a great bookmarking tool but the user interface is infuriating at best and I haven't found the Semantic web features live up to their billing. One other problem that they might run into is their automatic copying of other peoples content. For example Twine's summary of this blog post is the first 300 words of a 900 word article. That's stretching the bounds of fair use but is also probably helping their Google juice.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-04-18T23:47:33Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:137330</id>
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    <title>Comment from neon on 2009-05-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>neon</name>
        <uri>http://www.drmneon.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.drmneon.com">
        <![CDATA[<p></p>

<p><br />
very good to know that your contribution to super ...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-05-10T21:44:49Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:138837</id>
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    <title>Comment from danb on 2009-05-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>danb</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I really do not believe twine is growing fast organically. probably mostly SE traffic. </p>

<p>Also, can anyone explain why google trends shows very low traffic level?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-05-20T08:50:46Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:139204</id>
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    <title>Comment from minkov on 2009-05-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>minkov</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>it is rediculous ... <br />
there are already so many such ontology<br />
or ontology deposit out there already.<br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-05-23T02:11:32Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:145563</id>
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    <title>Comment from pari sportifs on 2009-07-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>pari sportifs</name>
        <uri>http://parisportifsenligne.fr</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://parisportifsenligne.fr">
        <![CDATA[<p>very good</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-07-06T11:14:37Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:155162</id>
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    <title>Comment from John  on 2009-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>John </name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>It's summer. Twine got nowhere near the 2 million uniques like Spivack hyped. Actually, Twine's DOWN 30% on uniques from last month - see compete - so no threat to delicious.</p>

<p>Even tho it's had beta and live time to fix basic problems (over 2 years and with loads of user input) UI and usability still suck and spam continues to be out of control:</p>

<p><a href="http://xosfaere.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/twam/" rel="nofollow">http://xosfaere.wordpress.com/2009/07/25/twam/</a></p>

<p>Spivack is no visionary. Just loves his spam and BS. </p>

<p>Facebook just bought Friendfeed for $47.5m in cash & stock. FF has WAY more active users than Twine. FF growth has been consistent. FF rollouts get communicated well - not amateur like Twine - and it's a whole lot easier to use. FF's done amazing stuff with only 12 employees (less than a third of Twine's) and a quarter of the financing. </p>

<p>"...two reliable sources at Microsoft that Radar Networks could fetch $ 300 million today" - David@MIT (CSAIL)</p>

<p>?!?!?! $300 million.............</p>

<p>Yeah and spam's made from fish and we're not in the worst global economic wipeout since the Depression either.  </p>

<p></p>

<p><br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-30T21:06:43Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14255-comment:156936</id>
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    <title>Comment from ugg  on 2009-09-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>ugg </name>
        <uri>http://www.uggboots365.co.uk</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.uggboots365.co.uk">
        <![CDATA[<p>The company wouldn't let us publish the new service's name but says it is aiming for a launch date this year, as soon as a go-to-market strategy and appropriate partnerships are lined up. The ontologies created won't only work on Twine; they will be referenceable by semantic apps anywhere around the web.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-09-10T08:15:22Z</published>
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