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    <published>2009-04-06T18:17:00Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-07T02:39:15Z</updated>
    <title>Android Isn&apos;t a Phone OS Because in the Future There Will Be No Phones</title>
    <summary>T-Mobile is working on plans to build several devices that run Google&apos;s Android operating system but can&apos;t really be considered phones, according to internal documents secured by the New York Times this weekend. The revelation appears to provide more evidence to the argument that Android isn&apos;t really a mobile phone&apos;s operating system because in the...</summary>
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      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/androidlogo2.jpg">T-Mobile is working on plans to build several devices that run Google's Android operating system but can't really be considered phones, according to internal documents secured by the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/technology/companies/06android.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss">New York Times</a> this weekend.  The revelation appears to provide more evidence to the argument that Android isn't really a mobile phone's operating system because in the future there won't be devices thought of as phones.</p>

<p>There's no good reason for phones to continue to exist as distinct devices for voice communication.  For all intents and purposes, there will be no phones in the future - only portable data devices used for all kinds of communication, voice being an equal partner with the web.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>The forthcoming T-mobile devices may be larger than an iPhone (one appears to be a 7 inch tablet), they may stay in a particular room or hallway in your home.  There are lots of possibilities.  Bard Dybwad writes at <a href="http://www.obsessable.com/news/2009/04/06/t-mobile-to-use-google-android-for-a-touchscreen-home-phone-and-tablet/">Obsessable</a>, "Assuming the news has legs, it marks an aggressive push on the part of T-Mobile to throw its hat into the ring on developing devices in the middle layer between computer and cell phone, with Linux-based Android as the flexible open operating system that can accommodate a wide range of control schemes and device sizes."</p>

<p>Would you carry a device with you if it was larger than an iPhone?  Many people say they would - if the gains in features and productivity increased a lot as well.  Maybe this is just a Netbook, but maybe it's something in between.</p>

<p>We expect things to change drastically in the near future.  If someday the concept of a voice-centric device called a "phone" will seem antiquated, here are three factors we expect to contribute to that shift.</p>

<h2>Voice and Data Cannot Remain Separate</h2>

<p>Forcing users to pay one fee for voice communication through telephony and another fee for use of other data like the web is not a tenable long term business model.  It's comparable to expecting music fans to pay for music when it's all available for free online.</p>

<p>At least when it comes to portable communication there is a clear need for customers to pay for something, connectivity. Voice and web access are all just digital data, though, so it's not realistic to expect people to pay twice in the long term.  Paying separately for home internet service probably won't happen forever, either.</p>

<p>The introduction of the Skype iPhone app last week showed how much demand there is for integrated communication.  The fact that voice calls can't be made with the app using 3G is just not the kind of barrier that stands much of a chance in the face of tech history marching forward.</p>

<p>Which OS is most likely to integrate voice and other data first?  Not the iPhone - but maybe Android.  Android on a tablet, Android in your gaming portal, Android in the side of your refrigerator.  Why not?</p>

<p><object align="right" hspace="5px" vspace="5px"><script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8" language="javascript" src="http://static.polldaddy.com/p/1519899.js"></script><noscript> <a href ="http://answers.polldaddy.com/poll/1519899/" >Do you believe a post-phone future is coming?</a>  <br/> <span style="font-size:9px;"> (<a href ="http://www.polldaddy.com">  surveys</a>)</span></noscript></object><h2>Voice and the Web Will Become Inseparable</h2></p>

<p>If you've tried out Google's iPhone app then you can see that quality web search by voice is a clear winner.  Different mediums are substantially more appropriate for different circumstances; just like text is far more scannable and better suited for rapid sharing of information than video or audio are, voice is a much faster and more convenient way to search the web than text input into a keyboard is.</p>

<p>Google believes its voice interface is a very important part of its future and Tim O'Reilly identified it at the 5th anniversary of the Web 2.0 conference as <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/five_applications_tim_oreilly_says_point_past_web20.php">one of 5 key technologies</a> he believes point past the current era of the web.  </p>

<p>Voice and the web go hand in hand together like peanut butter and jelly.   Google voice search and the Google OS are a natural integration as well.  There's no reason for that union to occur within the limitations of the "phone."</p>

<h2>Demand for Web Access Is Ubiquitous</h2>

<p>Remember when only yuppies had cell phones?  These days a substantial portion of the people in the world don't have smart phones with Web access - but for how much longer will that be the case?  As hardware prices fall, the wall between voice and other data comes down and the mobile advertising puzzle gets solved - web access in your hand held communication device will be close to universal. </p>

<p>Who's going to figure out how to monetize ads, probably search ads in particular, on portable devices?  Android seems as likely a candidate as any.</p>

<h2>Why Android?</h2>

<p>Android seems a particularly likely candidate to usher in this future because it was engineered to be open to 3rd party developers because Google has access to huge distribution channels and because Google is a company with a business model fundamentally based on plenty - not scarcity.  The more the web grows, the more Google can advertise there.  That's very different from the phone model, including Apple's model.</p>

<p>We look forward to seeing what comes next with Android on it, the future seems relatively open ended so far.</p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132234</id>
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    <title>Comment from omar on 2009-04-06</title>
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        <name>omar</name>
        <uri>http://sicario.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This was the promise of android. An open device. But lately google had beed failing by falling to carriers demands and is stating to regulate the app market. Removing app the carriers don't like. I can't see the opendes in that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T19:21:43Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132241</id>
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    <title>Comment from Jeremy Floyd {@jfloyd} on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Jeremy Floyd {@jfloyd}</name>
        <uri>http://www.jeremyfloyd.com/2009/devicification-of-the-web/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have in my hand a red pill and a blue pill...</p>

<p>Totally agree. in addition, more devices in our lives are going to be integrated in the process. From phones to washing machines, everything will be increasingly connected. Our phones will likely be portal devices to the world. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T19:45:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2009-04-06</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I will resist writing a long rant on this subject that I am extremely passionate about, BUT...</p>

<p>No Android is not a phone OS, it never was. Reminder Andy originally wrote it as a digital camera's operating system in 2004. You can jump over to the Standford University site and watch a long video of Andy's presentation to the Computer Science department from 2007. In it he says repeatedly there are to Androids, one tailored to the carriers the other is for anything.</p>

<p>Forget the boring "Google is kissing the carrier's ass" debate. Anyone can download Android's source code immediately and do whatever they want with it ( has support for wifi, but no radio stack ). That was the *only* promise they made, on which they have indeed delivered. Want more from Android? Launch your copy of Eclipse and make the coolest thing ever, charge as much money for it.</p>

<p>To Marshall's question...</p>

<p>It's all about teh sensors when looking ahead to post-phone future. Your phone can listen to the sounds around it, record them. It's clock, accelerometer and GPS let it know where it is in time and space. Soon other machines will gather new data with their sensors ( pollution, temperature, the entire light spectrum, texture, viscosity on and on ).</p>

<p>Tim O'reilly  hit the nail on the head with:</p>

<p>"Applications are going to be driven by sensors more than people typing into keyboards"</p>

<p>Android will play a huge part in that future.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T19:46:25Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132245</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ignace Rodríguez / @micronauta on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ignace Rodríguez / @micronauta</name>
        <uri>http://blog.canal.cl/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Pure genius. Actually in my case it's not even the future. As Windows Mobile and then iPhone have become a central part of my lifestyle, I hardly talk on the phone anymore, I prefer being in control and connected through the simplicity, accountability, ubiquity and low cost of e-mail and Twitter.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T20:05:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132247</id>
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    <title>Comment from Russ on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Russ</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If I had a magic wand that could do anything, I would still probably use it to communicate to other human beings (granted I would teleport rather than talking to a wand - THAT would look weird).  Sure there are a lot of cool things on the horizon for mobile devices - but until teleportation or telepathy are enabled - a core function of any mobile device will be voice communication.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T20:34:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132249</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ignace, that's an angle we didn't even consider - the decreasing importance of voice communication now that there are so many other ways to communicate.  That's certainly been true in my life as well!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T20:36:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132263</id>
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    <title>Comment from jezarnold.myopenid.com on 2009-04-06</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>RWW .. another article that I believe is spot on! </p>

<p>I believe Android is going to be used much than just phones and netbooks. Remember, when everyone was talking about the google set-top box? You would be able to plug in a very simple box to your TV, and surf the net, check email, make calls? Why doesn't someone hack an Apple TV, and install MythTV on it. If I had a google account, I would be able to program recordings.. even watch TV that I have recorded. </p>

<p>Android is without the one to watch. Windows needs to make there app less bloated and more user friendly, and have an app store. Apple need more devices, perhaps AppleTV v3 will be based on the iPhone interface.. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T21:31:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Chris on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris</name>
        <uri>http://www.flexilis.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Was great timing seeing this post, I wrote a blog post for our company blog last night similarly about the fact that we've left the age of the cellular phone, and evolved into the age of 'mobile devices.' feel free to check it out at <a href="http://blog.flexilis.com/2009/04/flexilis-making-the-mobile-world-a-safer-place-to-work-and-play/" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://blog.flexilis.com/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.flexilis.com/</a></a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T21:39:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132275</id>
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    <title>Comment from raivo pommer on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>raivo pommer</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Die Nervosität bei Vekselbergs Getreuen war in den letzten Tagen mit Händen zu greifen. Als ob sie geahnt hätten, dass in letzter Minute erneut ein Hindernis auftauchen würde, das die Übernahme der Kontrolle bei Sulzer gefährdet. Verunsichert hatte sie das hartnäckig kursierende Gerücht, Sulzer-Präsident Ulf Berg, den Vekselberg an der morgigen Generalversammlung abwählen lassen will, plane ein letztes Störmanöver.</p>

<p>Und zwar wolle Berg Vekselbergs Aktienpaket – der Oligarch hält 31 Prozent an Sulzer – das Stimmrecht aberkennen, und zwar mit der Begründung, Renova habe das im Mai auslaufende Stillhalteabkommen verletzt, weil sie aktiv einen neuen Sulzer-Präsidenten gesucht und in Jürgen Dormann dafür auch einen Kandidaten gefunden habe.</p>

<p>Die Schreckensvision ist inzwischen realistischer geworden, als Vekselberg lieb sein kann. Denn kurz nach Börsenschluss liess das Eidgenössische Finanzdepartement eine Bombe platzen: Es hat ein Verwaltungsstrafverfahren gegen Vekselberg, Ronny Pecik und Georg Stumpf eröffnet. Das Departement verdächtigt das Trio, beim Aufbau einer grossen Beteiligung an Sulzer vor zwei Jahren die Meldepflichten der Börse verletzt zu haben.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T22:13:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132278</id>
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    <title>Comment from WesleyTech.com on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>WesleyTech.com</name>
        <uri>http://wesleytech.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Same for me here. I use the mobile web, texting and twitter from my mobile phone much more than voice nowadays.</p>

<p>I like the prediction about voice and data collapsing into one fee, but I don't see how that's going to happen when the US mobile phone carriers are trending on charging more and more. (Remember when text messaging was free or very low cost? Now it's the mobile providers #1 revenue source)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-06T22:19:36Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132303</id>
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    <title>Comment from Matt Annen on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Matt Annen</name>
        <uri>http://techietalker.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I totally agree.  If anyone is interested in how Google Voice works I just posted a Walkthrough/Review to my blog at techietalker.com</p>

<p>Nice article!!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T02:31:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132304</id>
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    <title>Comment from thegeniusfiles on 2009-04-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>thegeniusfiles</name>
        <uri>http://www.thegeniusfiles.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Actually, I would PREFER a non-cell Android device. Carriers need to be taught a lesson.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T02:39:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14511-comment:132335</id>
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    <title>Comment from Runescape gold on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Runescape gold</name>
        <uri>http://www.gaiasale.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The more the web grows, the more Google can advertise there. That's very different from the phone model, including Apple's model.<br />
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    <published>2009-04-07T07:07:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from etamme on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>etamme</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>RWW welcome to the year 2000.  Voice and data have not been seperate (operationlly speaking)for some time now.  Telco's have had VoIP enabled networks since the late 90's, it's just that the general public didn't know about it. </p>

<p>Android isn't going to drive that voice and data integration further, its going to drive... here comes the marketing buzzword... "convergence" of communication and services - particularly the geospacial stuff, which we can see by google pushing out it's location service.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T13:33:15Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Michal on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michal</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One little remark: Android is Java-based much more than Linux-based.<br />
I cannot understand why Google chose Java path, not JS path, like Palm's WebOS, making their mobile development and Google Apps/Gears development completely incompatible.<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T16:52:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Mike Mathews on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mike Mathews</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is so similar to Intel work we discussed at Intel Developer Forum in 2003. We presented videos on visions for future computing 10 years out, 2013, and held a panel discussion on four visions: long-distance medicine; autonomous networking sensors; RFID distribution channel enhancements; mobile devices with voice, video and face recognition capabilities along with continuous network connections.</p>

<p>Many of these visions are becoming true in similar ways to the descriptions we gave. The core of the discussion was sensors feeding information back to us so we could react on and with that information. The origin and format of the data was inconsequential because it was all handled as data and not as separate streams by separate processes and tools.</p>

<p>The mobile device scenario posited that mobile devices could carry voice and data simultaneously so we could take pictures, upload GPS location and vocally annotate our thoughts, and then that data could be found and accessed by friends, and we could access data left by earlier visitors. Video could be streamed or captured, then viewed by friends, Face recognition and GPS would help us determine if friends were nearby.</p>

<p>The medical devices included some worn by the patient for constant monitoring, enabling a look at chronic problems or activating drug intervention. The idea was spreading medical care farther and giving far-flung medical care0givers access to equipment they either cannot afford or cannot take with them.</p>

<p>All of this is beginning to be available and long before our estimate of 2013. Of course, we were looking at hardware capabilities and needs, not addressing OS or app requirements, but the idea of data traveling as a single stream and the receiving tool delivering up the required format was paramount to the discussion.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T17:28:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from lilykudrow on 2009-04-18</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ISkoot Announces the First VoIP Application for Android G1<br />
Could Dell, Alienware and Google Make an Android Phone?<br />
A good read:<br />
<a href="http://www.techunits.com/content/list_all/100/android" rel="nofollow">http://www.techunits.com/content/list_all/100/android</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-18T12:25:25Z</published>
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