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    <published>2009-04-01T18:21:31Z</published>
    <updated>2009-04-01T18:39:22Z</updated>
    <title>More Failed Negotiations: YouTube Now Also Blocks Music Videos in Germany</title>
    <summary>Just a few weeks ago, Google started to block music videos on YouTube in England, after its negotiations with the UK&apos;s artistic royalty-collecting body PRS for Music failed because of disagreements about the price of the license and a lack of transparency. Today, Google&apos;s negotiations with the German music rights association GEMA also failed, and...</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="youtube_logo_nov08.png" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/youtube_logo_nov08.png" />Just a few weeks ago, Google started to <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_will_block_music_videos_in_uk.php">block music videos</a> on YouTube in England, after its negotiations with the UK's artistic royalty-collecting body PRS for Music failed because of disagreements about the price of the license and a lack of transparency. Today, Google's negotiations with the German music rights association <a href="http://www.gema.de/en/">GEMA</a> also failed, and Google will now <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_12044526">block music videos in Germany</a> as well. Google's contract with GEMA <a href="http://www.gema.de/presse/pressemitteilungen/pressemitteilung/?tx_ttnews[tt_news]=809&amp;tx_ttnews[backPid]=76&amp;cHash=da3a805ec7">expired</a> yesterday, after the two parties failed to come to an <a href="http://google-produkt-kompass.blogspot.com/2009/03/youtube-und-die-deutsche.html">agreement</a> about the price of a new license.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>In its statement, Google <a href="http://google-produkt-kompass.blogspot.com/2009/03/youtube-und-die-deutsche.html">cites</a> exactly the same reasons for taking down the videos and fighting the German music rights association as it did when it <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/youtube_will_block_music_videos_in_uk.php">announced</a> that it would start to block music videos in the UK after its negotiations with PRS for Music failed: lack of transparency about which videos would be covered by the agreement, and the extraordinarily high price of the license.</p>

<p><img alt="gema_logo_mar09.png" align="left" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/gema_logo_mar09.png"  />According to Google, GEMA's prices would be more than fifty times as high as those that PRS for Music was looking for in Britain. According to Google, GEMA's prices would mean that Google would have to pay the equivalent of about 500 Euros for one traditional CD - without even knowing which songs it would be getting on that CD.</p>

<p>YouTube, according to <a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/YouTube-sperrt-Videos-mit-GEMA-Musik-Update--/meldung/135532">Heise Online</a>, would also prefer to pay a flat rate, though the German music rights association would prefer a more nuanced payment model.</p>

<h2>Controlling Costs at YouTube</h2>

<p>Fighting these music rights organizations is also clearly a sign that Google is trying to keep the costs of operating YouTube under control. After all, it still hasn't found a way to monetize the service to the point where it would break even. </p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14459-comment:131807</id>
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    <title>Comment from Runescape gold on 2009-04-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Runescape gold</name>
        <uri>http://www.gaiasale.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>organizations is also clearly a sign that Google is trying to keep the costs of operating </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-02T06:33:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14459-comment:131810</id>
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    <title>Comment from 花蓮民宿 on 2009-04-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>花蓮民宿</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Google is trying to keep the costs of operating</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-02T07:36:15Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14459-comment:131821</id>
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    <title>Comment from Joe Simpson on 2009-04-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>Joe Simpson</name>
        <uri>http://www.opendiary.com/earcandy</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>There is constant conflict in online music. Google's decision to fight music rights organizations is simply a strong statement of creative innovation in the internet.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-02T10:16:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Simon Rabente on 2009-04-04</title>
    <author>
        <name>Simon Rabente</name>
        <uri>http://www.saveem.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rette Musikvideos auf YouTube -<br />
Unterschreibe auch du! Bitte leite<br />
diese Nachricht an deine Freunde<br />
weiter! - <a href="http://www.saveem.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveem.net</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-04T17:29:10Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from chat on 2009-07-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>chat</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://site.mynet.com/videomp3musicsclipsalbumsmuzik/">Music Tv</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.odasohbeti.com/yabancimuzikleridinle.html">MUSIC CHAT</a></b><br />
<b><a href="http://www.odasohbeti.com/ensonyerlivideomuzikleriklipleridinleizle.html">TURKISH MUSIC</a></b></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-02T19:57:52Z</published>
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