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    <title>This Machine Eats Tweets: The System Behind @Comcast and Others</title>
    <summary>The System Behind @Comcast on Twitter</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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      <![CDATA[<p><img alt="cogpic.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/cogpic.jpg" width="150" height="98" >This morning my home wifi was having trouble and I posted a message to Twitter saying, "My wife has decided to start the day with a call to Comcast customer service, I should have offered to poke her in the eye with a spoon. Would have been more fun for her."  Within minutes a man named Bill (@ComcastBill, really) publicly replied to ask if he could help.</p>

<p>I didn't think much of it, I assumed he was camped on a search.twitter results page for the word "Comcast" or maybe had subscribed to an RSS feed for the search.  It turns out though, that far more than that was happening behind the scenes.  An extensive machinery of tracking, delegation and analysis stood between Bill and my little Tweet.  Maybe it has to be that way, maybe it's a good thing - but there's something deeply disturbing about it too.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>Companies all around the world know that "social media" is important and they are investing time and money into figuring out how to deal with it.  Early this morning website analytics heavyweights <a href="http://webtrends.com">WebTrends</a> announced that <a href="http://www.webtrends.com/AboutWebTrends/NewsRoom/NewsRoomArchive/2009/WebTrendsSocialMeasurementPoweredbyRadian6ProvidesAdvancedToolsForCustomerEngagementAcrossTheWeb.aspx">they have made a deal</a> with upstart social media monitoring firm <a href="http://radian6.com">Radian6</a> to offer a co-branded solution for keeping track of blog posts, Tweets, and other online ephemera mentioning your company.</p>

<p>Now the company's customers will not only be able to see extensive traffic data and to pull that data from what WebTrends calls the first free traffic data API on the market - they'll also be able to view social media mentions off-site in a relatively sophisticated interface.  I asked Radin6's Chris Ramsey about what probably went on behind the scenes after I Tweeted about Comcast this morning.  He said he couldn't say how Comcast in particular was using the software but it wasn't just a casual conversation.  "Absolutely," he said. "There is more going on there."</p>

<p><img alt="radian6fullscreen610.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/radian6fullscreen610.jpg" width="610" height="362" ></p>

<p>Radian6 offers a sophisticated interface, but it's an odd one too.  It's built in Flash and allows a fair number of different ways to slice and dice data.  Data like, how many people are talking about you online vs. a competitor and the relative "influence" of those people.  There's more advanced Customer Relationship Management (CRM) technology on the way into Radian6.  Ramsey told us today that "if you look at all the major CRM companies out there, they are adding social listening technology - and as a social listening service, we're adding CRM."</p>

<p><img alt="ComcastBill.jpg" src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/ComcastBill.jpg" width="250" align="left" hspace="5px" vspace="5px">The interface is slick like an iPhone, though, and an iPhone you can't jailbreak.  The company gives you a variety of ways to deal with the data but you can't, for example, get an RSS feed out of it.  There's something that feels condescending about these kinds of services. Why can't the marketers using them learn how to use the web, like the rest of us have?  That's not an entirely fair critique as many sophisticated marketing geeks find systems like this (and Radian6 in particular) useful for dealing with data in aggregate. Many customers in this market, though, are jumping over from a workflow based on sticky notes and pasting blobs of text into Excel, and sometimes very infrequently even doing that. [<em>Left, @ComcastBill</em>]</p>

<p>The fact is, subscribing to a search feed for relevant terms in various search engines just isn't going to scale for larger businesses.  When your online customer service team has a substantial number of people in it, you're probably going to need a system that goes beyond informal familiarity with people and one-off responses to online mentions.  Dell's VP of Communities and Conversation, for example, has at least 45 people working under him.  Having a system to listen, analyze, track, and export data from makes sense.</p>

<p>This isn't a story just about Comcast, Dell, WebTrends or Radian6. It's a story about corporate engagement with emerging social media.</p>

<p>"Social media is like the social phone, smart companies are listening to that and managing it with some process around it," Radian6's Chris Ramsey says, "That's the evolution of the call center."  He says that many major companies have roadmaps that point to training a new breed of marketing and communications/customer service hybrids to staff their call centers.</p>

<p>The end result, though, is strange for those of us interacting with these customer service reps.  It's not just Bill from Comcast and I trading public replies on Twitter (I can't DM him, he's not following me), and when Bonnie pinged me hours later in response to conversation about this article, it wasn't a casual person-to-person conversation.  It looks like it's just you and them, but behind them there's a curtain covering a whole mess of cogs and pulleys, analyzing you in different ways.  How many followers do you have?  How did you respond the last time a company rep used your name publicly?  Who's in charge of discussing your concerns with you on Twitter, on your blog, or elsewhere?</p>

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<p>Add the fact that many of these positions are, or will someday be filled with sales people, have them view these conversations through a closed system of predetermined criteria, and set it all inside a big CRM database.  What do you get?  Is it a story of authentic connection in a democratized public conversation - or is it a charade?</p>

<p>It's kind of a modern day horror story, isn't it?  Web 2.0's potential benefit for humanity tragically sold short by social media because it fell under a fog of marketing software.  Would-be short-form conversationalists jumping in with CRM-tinted glasses secured to their faces.  One of my co-workers says that within minutes of his wife Tweeting about her art studio last night, she was friended by scads of art companies and salespeople.  Who wants to have a conversation in that context?</p>

<p>Or maybe it's just a matter of changing our expectations.  Maybe this is all good; the new customer service - a lot like the old customer service, but in your blog comments and replies tab.  What do you think?  We'd sure like to know, because we expect there will be a whole lot more activity like this in the near term future.</p>

<p><em>Cog photo by <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/photoreciprocity/398271003/">Photoreciprocity</a>. Which one's the cog photo?</em></p>]]>
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  <entry>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andrew</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Not pulling any punches here especially on those fine folk in sales and marketing ;) However, the cogs and pulleys and curtains are metaphors usually reserved for paranoia and conspiracy theories.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T23:54:02Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrew - aren't conspiracy theories usually alleging that there is something more concerted going on behind the scenes than is visible to casual observers and participants?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T23:54:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Indeed! Isn't there?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T23:56:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andrew</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>BTW: I forgot to say that I enjoyed the piece.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-07T23:59:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132439</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marshall Kirkpatrick on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marshall Kirkpatrick</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew.  I'd say we aim to please, but I hope it's clear that isn't always the case.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T00:02:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132440</id>
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    <title>Comment from Fabrice Epelboin on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Fabrice Epelboin</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Very nice post. Thanks Marshall :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T00:09:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132442</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael Downs on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed the post, and think it raises some interesting questions. I also think that Comcast is genuinely interested in using social media to provide better service. I suspect this is a result of the drubbings they took on sites such as ComcastMustDie.com.</p>

<p>As for what the future may hold, Radian6-like functionality will feed CRM systems. Social media profiles will augment and could eventually dominate those gleaned from other channels such as call logs.</p>

<p>While we hope the result will not be invasive data gathering, inferior service for un-influentials, or aggressive outbound marketing, until we see evidence of such, I'm not ready to assume a "horror story" at the hands of the "emotionally twisted".</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T00:56:41Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Free Sports Betting on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Free Sports Betting</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Does it really matter how Comcast reaches out to you if they fix the problem? I like the fact that they are concerned about their reputation and fixing problems.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T01:18:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Marcel LeBrun on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <name>Marcel LeBrun</name>
        <uri>http://www.radian6.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hi Marshall,</p>

<p>A very thought provoking post!</p>

<p>I agree with Michael's comment above. We are not headed for the "horror story" - quite the opposite is taking place. The social web has not only provided a new democratized communications medium, it has also created important social change in promoting values like authenticity, transparency, and the important of listening & conversation.  </p>

<p>Companies like Dell & Comcast deeply understand this and they are getting it right as are many others following their lead. </p>

<p>In your Comcast experience, @ComcastBill found you. He has a name and you can get to know him. You can reach him anytime. His own reputation is out there too. The whole @comcastcares social media team rocks and their customers are spreading the word about it.</p>

<p>While I do cringe at the thought of this "horror story" you describe, I don't think we need to worry about it because customers will call it out. The community will naturally take care of the "emotionally twisted".</p>

<p>Thanks so much, by the way, for writing about Radian6 and your conversation with Chris Ramsey. We are proud and fortunate to be working with leaders like Dell & Comcast who truly model how to engage with customers on the social web and we will do our part to continue to promote the right way of listening & engaging.</p>

<p>Regards,<br />
Marcel<br />
CEO, Radian6<br />
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    <published>2009-04-08T02:56:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from rick on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>interesting piece... but I'm not sure what you expected or even what you imagined was happening behind the scenes. You admit that a search based feed doesn't scale for someone like Comcast which is apparent if you think about it. So they have some system to manage things in a more sophisticated manner. What's your alternative? If a simple feed doesn't scale and a sophisticated solution is scary to you... what would you have them do? </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T03:10:01Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Connie Bensen on 2009-04-07</title>
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        <name>Connie Bensen</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Would it be so bad if good customer service were the rule rather than the exception?<br />
Does it matter that it takes some technology to gather the conversations, analyze them & provide sentiment & tone? It seems like a good effort to improve society.</p>

<p>I had bought a Dell tower & monitor in January & was experiencing daily blue screening. @ChrisBatDell & I were already connected on Twitter, but he found the driver that solved my problem. I'm very appreciative.</p>

<p>And in terms of monitoring I'm partial to the topic because at <a href="http://sm2.techrigy.com" rel="nofollow">Techrigy SM2</a> we work with our customers on a daily basis. They are really trying to better provide for consumers in the long run (whether as a company or as an agency helping their clients do so). <br />
(And our social media monitoring tool does allow it's information out via RSS feeds in many ways. And we have the <a href="http://sm2.techrigy.com" rel="nofollow">Freemium version</a> if you'd like to see the 'cogs & wheels' behind the curtain.)<br />
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    <published>2009-04-08T03:28:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Connie Bensen on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Connie Bensen</name>
        <uri>http://sm2.techrigy.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Would it be so bad if good customer service were the rule rather than the exception?<br />
Does it matter that it takes some technology to gather the conversations, analyze them & provide sentiment & tone? It seems like a good effort to improve society.</p>

<p>I had bought a Dell tower & monitor in January & was experiencing daily blue screening. @ChrisBatDell & I were already connected on Twitter, but he found the driver that solved my problem. I'm very appreciative.</p>

<p>And in terms of monitoring I'm partial to the topic because at <a href="http://sm2.techrigy.com" rel="nofollow">Techrigy SM2</a> we work with our customers on a daily basis. They are really trying to better provide for consumers in the long run (whether as a company or as an agency helping their clients do so). <br />
(And our social media monitoring tool does allow it's information out via RSS feeds in many ways. And we have the <a href="http://sm2.techrigy.com" rel="nofollow">Freemium version</a> if you'd like to see the 'cogs & wheels' behind the curtain.)</p>

<p>Connie <br />
Community Strategist, Techrigy<br />
@cbensen</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T03:30:05Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132461</id>
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    <title>Comment from Richard Petersen on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Richard Petersen</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I agree with the others who enjoyed the article but don't think it's automatically bad for a company to use CRM-like tools in social media. Experience teaches us that most customers tell few, if any friends about an everyday good experience with a business, but most will tell many others about their bad experiences. That dynamic, combined with the reach of online media, means that companies have an uphill battle to maintain a positive reputation in online social networks.</p>

<p>In taking their efforts to support their customers in public when those customers complain in public, Comcast and others are doing the right thing. Managing tens or hundreds of thousands of customer conversations in social networks requires sophisticated tools. So good for them.</p>

<p>Where do things go wrong? When the company violates the norms of online social communications - spamming (as you noted); pretexting and/or astro-turfing; outsourcing your identity to others to act on your behalf; selling or upselling instead of offering help authentically; or violating the network's terms of service or APIs. </p>

<p>The customer also has an obligation to be honest and authentic in public, and to accept the consequences of choosing to interact publicly rather than 1-to-1. If I complain about Comcast on Twitter, they have a right to see how many times I've tweeted about them before and incorporate that into whatever CRM profile they have about me.</p>

<p>For a company to engage with its customers in public forums outside its control is a big step, and if tools like these give companies the confidence to develop authentic engagements online, then let's hope we see more of them.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T03:46:43Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Christine Hiebel on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Christine Hiebel</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/passionparent</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great article!<br />
Although I tend not to buy into to so many conspiracy theories, I know there is data that does get misused and gives the rest of it a bad name.  Solve that and you solve a great challenge that has gone on since the beginning of time!</p>

<p>So, do we run from great technology?  I believe in the Law of Attraction... you create what you focus on.  I was talking just today with a friend who will not use tools such as Twitter due to FEAR.... what if.... it, clearly is not the right tool for her, today any ways!  So, I choose to look at the awesome job Comcast did stepping upto the plate.  I will tweet next time, instead of considering the fork in my eye as I deal with waiting on hold for the right person, who will most likely transfer me to someone else (who I have to wait on hold for!).</p>

<p>I likey it!<br />
www.PassionParent.com</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-04-08T04:18:45Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132467</id>
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    <title>Comment from Josh Bancroft on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Josh Bancroft</name>
        <uri>http://www.tinyscreenfuls.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wonderful piece, Marshall. You articulated a lot of thoughts and feelings that have been swirling around in my head, about why so much feels so "wrong" about "social media" these days. Something is off, though I'd be hard-pressed to explain exactly what.</p>

<p>Consider, for instance, how many comments in this very thread are (not so) thinly veiled pitches for tools and products in this space. That's simultaneously creepy and totally unsurprising.</p>

<p>Maybe Cluetrain holds the answer. Maybe it's the lack of human voice - of fun, passion, quirks, and warts - that makes these kinds of interactions feel wrong. Having a public profile with a Facebook photo isn't a bad thing, but it does not a human make. We recognize each other as human by our human voices, and there's no trace of real human voice in a "conversation" originated and managed by a piece of CRM software. I am not a C whose R needs to be M'ed.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T04:21:27Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132481</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Ramsey on 2009-04-07</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris Ramsey</name>
        <uri>http://twitter.com/chrisramsey</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Marshal, it was great chatting with you today and really like the article that you've put together.  I think you have raised many valid concerns.  The ability to respond to customers' issues in real-time is somewhat of a tool that can be used in a variety of different ways.  Whether that is a good thing or bad thing, I think, ultimately comes down to who is using that tool and to what extent they are fully committed to their task at hand - i.e. if they reach out to you and offer help, they better follow through, deliver on their promise and solve your problem.</p>

<p>Thanks for the mentions throughout.</p>

<p>Great piece!</p>

<p>Chris.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-04-08T06:17:42Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132497</id>
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    <title>Comment from Pete Forsyth on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Pete Forsyth</name>
        <uri>http://wikiprojectoregon.wordpress.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for exploring this issue, Marshall. I've had similar experiences with @comcastcares -- who, I think, is at the top of the ladder. The guy maintains his own personal blog too, where he posts some rather compelling musings on the role of social media in customer service...however, he never replied to my comments, so I stopped reading.</p>

<p>As for using social media in customer service, I'm rapidly becoming convinced that the checks and balances instituted by GetSatisfaction.com are without peer. I'll gladly engage with a company or a customer on there, but the unstructured and gameable discussion on sites like Twitter doesn't seem like such a good medium for that.</p>

<p>ONe of the weirdest things to me is that "customer service" reps on Twitter will cheerily respond to policy and public policy issues. If you take issue with the terms of Comcast's contract, or the corporate stance on net neutrality, they will gladly jump in to discuss the issue with you.</p>

<p>But do they have any authority to speak, or effect change on those matters? I doubt it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T08:17:38Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132504</id>
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    <title>Comment from Elad on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Elad</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Wouldn't it make better sense for ComCast to invest some money into making a call to their customer service not an experience that's equal too poking your eye with a spoon?<br />
Apparently they think it's more worthwhile for them to invest in social media monitoring and in service reps on twitter (who could be manning the phone after all).<br />
The sole reason for that is that they're afraid for their reputation. All of a sudden, when you experience shitty service and tell the world, they notice.<br />
So the main benefit of social media measurement for us consumers is that we can get noticed and enjoy a much better customer support experience (even though the company providing the support still doesn't care about us - just about their reputation).</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T09:45:24Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132510</id>
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    <title>Comment from Andraz Tori on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andraz Tori</name>
        <uri>http://www.zmeanta.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The trick is that it is not as asymmetrical as it seems. We can now extend much greater (social media) force over those companies than ever before. And they naturally want to play along (or fight back - if you want to use that term :)</p>

<p>Generally very good and eye-opening article! I wish for more of this kind of reporting!</p>

<p>bye<br />
Andraz Tori, Zemanta</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T10:58:07Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132522</id>
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    <title>Comment from coldbrew on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>coldbrew</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/coldbrew</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Nice write up. I'm obviously not bashful about my criticisms, and this is a topic that nobody mentions and why I read your posts. Of course the providers of these tools are going to point out what they see as advantages to using their products. The fact that there is/ was no mention of bias on their part is telling on its own. These tools and the way in which the metrics are presented cause the marketers using them to fall into a manipulative mindset (e.g. Is this person influential enough to respond to? Or just a troll?). Authenticity goes a long way, and these tools make it difficult to remain authentic.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T13:25:43Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132537</id>
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    <title>Comment from Martin Edic on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Martin Edic</name>
        <uri>http://www.whattheyresaying.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.whattheyresaying.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>This discussion hasn't touched a simple fact of life regarding your activities in social media and monitoring issues: Social media monitoring and analysis tools like SM2 and Radian6 only collect publicly available data. That's why you see so few Facebook results in these tools. Your conversations, profile information, number of followers, etc. are public unless you choose otherwise.<br />
There's no conspiracy here- take down our public info if you don't want people to analyze your activity.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T15:10:42Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132542</id>
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    <title>Comment from Michael Hoffman on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Michael Hoffman</name>
        <uri>http://www.see3.net/guide</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I am not so worried what happens behind the curtain. I do not expect, nor do I really want, a personal relationship with Comcast. </p>

<p>I have a problem with Comcast (or any other company), and I am expressing publicly that I have this problem. That a big company is able to scale the ability to listen to these conversations, parse them, and respond in a way that gives me better service... more power to them. They are responding because word-of-mouth is powerful and they are scared that if they are not responsive they will be hurt. Fine. </p>

<p>I think about Fred Wilson's recent post about Facebook. You still control your own activity in these places. Fred made his FB profile personal, kicked out all the "friends" who weren't close, then created a fan page for the rif-raf. There are levels of conversation, and it's OK with me that one level will be companies trying to do their jobs better. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T16:19:15Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132546</id>
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    <title>Comment from Eric on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Eric</name>
        <uri>http://www.gnip.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.gnip.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>Damned if you don't, damned if you do, Marshall.  </p>

<p>I appreciate that you want everyone to get down into the guts of the web (and for many people RSS is still "the guts") because it's something you are passionate about (as am I).  But for a lot of people there's a lack of time, inclination or ability.</p>

<p>The fact that Comcast and @ComcastBill somehow have less cred because they're not camped out on search.twitter is probably not what you meant to suggest, but it's what comes through in the article.  That Comcast is paying to put tools in place to better identify and respond to customer needs should be celebrated, not denigrated.</p>

<p>On a side note, I just want to send some props out to Marcel and Chris for putting together the Open Exchange in conjunction with Webtrends.  It's great to see that we're helping to enable, in however small a way, some really awesome services for our customers.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T16:39:10Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132548</id>
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    <title>Comment from Shane Pearson on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>Shane Pearson</name>
        <uri>http://www.gnip.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post on how people are using micro-blogging and the social internet for real world daily needs.  At Gnip, we think that more and more companies are going to be looking at how they can leverage social and business media data in these types of ways.</p>

<p>Radian6, a Gnip customer, is on the leading edge of providing services in this area and we think they are on the right track in making sense from all the conversations that are happening everyday.</p>

<p><br />
Cheers,<br />
Shane<br />
VP, Products<br />
Gnip, Inc. <br />
</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-04-08T16:50:38Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132552</id>
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    <title>Comment from ProgGrrl on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>ProgGrrl</name>
        <uri>http://twitter.com/ProgGrrl</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://twitter.com/ProgGrrl">
        <![CDATA[<p>"One of my co-workers says that within minutes of his wife Tweeting about her art studio last night, she was friended by scads of art companies and salespeople. Who wants to have a conversation in that context?"</p>

<p>On Twitter, as anywhere in Web 2.0, YOU are responsible for gathering followers/friends/readers/etc.  There is no perfect way to deflect the scrapers, the spammers, the marketers...regardless, YOU have great power in this space to create a social web that contains the community(ies) you WANT to be a part of.  And to moderate the conversations you participate in.  </p>

<p>In this particular example, I would respond that this lady with the art studio needs to get out to more art openings and pass out Twitter URL cards to the folks she meets.  She needs to surf onto more Art-focused message boards, join conversations, and link back to her Twitter account. She needs to put her Twitter URL on her Facebook, in the signature of her emails.  Or, if her Twitter feed is really just meant for friends and associates, she should set her feed to 'protected updates' and block the spammers/marketers. Etc.</p>

<p>This is the burden beneath the miracle of social media.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T17:37:57Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132597</id>
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    <title>Comment from James Clark on 2009-04-08</title>
    <author>
        <name>James Clark</name>
        <uri>http://friendfeed.com/jamesclark</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Companies that staff conversational response positions with sales people will find it difficult to create an authentic voice and consumers will call them out.</p>

<p>So if organizations are looking at conversational engagement as a "what can we get out it" only play, they'll find themselves with very shallow relationships and huge potential for backlash. Companies will always abuse a system - fortunately for consumers in 2.0 there's a way to publicly pull their punk cards.</p>

<p>Qwest, just today launched it's social media presence on Twitter, @talktoqwest, also leveraging Radian6 as a monitoring platform. </p>

<p>(Disclaimer) Having worked with the Qwest team to get this launched, I can say with certainty they were focused on putting top-notch customer service individuals on the job. It was never about sales.</p>

<p>Here's a great video of Sipp, one of the Talk To Qwest handlers - gotta love the personality they bring to it.<br />
<a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/qwest/videos/12/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viddler.com/explore/qwest/videos/12/</a></p>

<p>The inclusion of CRM into the process can greatly increas</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-08T20:49:46Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132707</id>
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    <title>Comment from Todd Clayton on 2009-04-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Todd Clayton</name>
        <uri>http://www.chatterboxhq.com/blog</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.chatterboxhq.com/blog">
        <![CDATA[<p>Hi Marshall,</p>

<p>Thanks for the interesting post. For full disclosure, I am involved in an effort to build a product to streamline participation in social networks. There is a lot of talk about CRM (or social CRM) in the historical context of that acronym for Customer Relationship Management.  Personally, I think that if we thought of this slightly differently as community participation management, perhaps the perspective would change a little.</p>

<p>I agree that if this becomes just the old model of CRM then the value of these types of interactions will be minimized.  However, I think the point is more to build a community which includes the full spectrum of user types.  When you can get your friends, customers, partners, companies, etc. all participating in these conversations it becomes a huge value to everyone involved.  I think you see the beginnings of this with the tools mentioned here.  Just like wikipedia and other similar sites, I think the community will ultimately police itself.  Those just interested in selling or marketing will naturally be minimized in these communities in favor of the users which provide significant value.</p>

<p>I think the evolution of how these communities interact is fascinating.  In my opinion, you have to find tools that help you find and support these conversations.</p>

<p>Thanks for your time.</p>

<p>Todd<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-09T15:00:11Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132709</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brad Senter on 2009-04-09</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brad Senter</name>
        <uri>http://www.imailserver.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I love social media. I facebook, I twitter, I blog...and I do most of it using API apps or my iPhone. I market for a living...so, I understand the needs for branding, product placement, etc. But, I cannot stand the over-marketing that take place on social media platforms. It undercuts the credibility of an otherwise great experience.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-09T15:17:25Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:132875</id>
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    <title>Comment from Malcolm Bastien on 2009-04-10</title>
    <author>
        <name>Malcolm Bastien</name>
        <uri>http://openmode.ca</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://openmode.ca">
        <![CDATA[<p>For social media being able to change the world and for it also selling short and being used by marketers... There's room for both.  Maybe in one sense people have a distaste for all of that happening in one place, on Twitter, where they would rather keep it more personal or tailored to their goals of changing the world.</p>

<p>Of course when some gimp follows you at your first mention of "just bought widgets" he's not fooling you for a second and that sort of behaviour isn't "forward thinking" listening, but instead a gimmicky that won't last long for businesses.</p>

<p>Funny thing is if you had no followers on Twitter and posted the same message, they might have not even responded to you as you didn't qualify as being "popular enough" on twitter for a personal response like that.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-10T22:24:39Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.14558-comment:134872</id>
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    <title>Comment from Steve on 2009-04-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Steve</name>
        <uri>http://go2graphics.com/g2</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is pure damage control on Comcast's part. They employed Radian6 initially to monitor the blogs then they got hit with Twitter. Blogs were mamgable, few had huge readerships so anti Comcast posts tended to happen in a vacuum. A quick comment on the blog and maybe a phone call provided sufficient damage control. </p>

<p><br />
Comcast have no problem with people being pissed off with them on an individual basis but they have a huge problem with the disaffected having  virtual megaphones of varying sizes - (Number of followers roughly equals size of megaphone) .</p>

<p>The part that made Comcast really crap themselves was that One megaphone only had to reach another megaphone anywhere and the problem i.e. bad press grew exponentially.</p>

<p>Pity they don't invest half the time and brainpower into actually solving the root causes i.e. infrastructure and training that they do on obfuscation. </p>

<p>Excellent article btw </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-04-22T22:59:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ugg  on 2009-09-11</title>
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        <name>ugg </name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I asked Radin6's Chris Ramsey about what probably went on behind the scenes after I Tweeted about Comcast this morning. He said he couldn't say how Comcast in particular was using the software but it wasn't just a casual conversation.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-11T08:14:00Z</published>
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