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    <published>2009-06-28T21:54:48Z</published>
    <updated>2009-06-28T22:03:40Z</updated>
    <title>Cartoon: Pee Into This Cup &amp; Hand Over Your Twitter Login Info</title>
    <summary>To the list of things you worry about when you&apos;re writing a blog post or updating your status (&quot;How will this affect my Technorati ranking?&quot; &quot;Will Wil Wheaton finally retweet me?&quot; &quot;Is this going to get me on a no-fly list?&quot;), you can now add this: &quot;What&apos;s my boss going to think?&quot; More and more...</summary>
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      <name>Rob Cottingham</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/city_of_bozeman_logo_jun09.png" />To the list of things you worry about when you're writing a blog post or updating your status ("How will this affect my Technorati ranking?" "Will Wil Wheaton finally retweet me?" "Is this going to get me on a no-fly list?"), you can now add this: "What's my boss going to think?"</p>

<p>More and more employers want to know what you're doing, not just in your cubicle, behind the register or out in the field, but on the Net. They're trying to find out if your social media antics are going to reflect poorly on them. Should that be any of their business? After all, it's <em>your</em> Facebook account/blog/Twilight fan wiki; how is what you're doing any of their concern?</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>But consider the summer contractor <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/25/AR2009062503931.html">fired from his job with the District of Columbia</a> after he tweeted derogatory remarks about a local neighbourhood and talked about loafing on the job. Set aside the confession of misconduct, and you still have the issue of a worker publicly slagging the people he's supposed to be serving.</p>

<p>The slope gets a little more slippery once we start dealing with people who <a href="http://www.socialsignal.com/blog/karen-fung/internal-blogging-policy-makes-social-media-a-win-win-companies-and-bloggers">criticize their employer</a> on their blogs... or just discuss their job without permission.</p>

<p>Waaaay down at the bottom of that slope is June's social-media-fail-of-the-month, the <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/want_to_work_for_the_city_of_bozeman_mt_hand_over_passwords_login_info.php">City of Bozeman</a>, which required job applicants to provide the usernames and passwords for their social network profiles. (That policy has <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j8jn3O0JgrEGN8znw-q2Y5-FcldAD990IUD80">since been rescinded</a>.)</p>

<p>Is the problem that we still haven't figured out what this space is yet? We sometimes treat it like it's a pub where we're venting with friends, saying outrageous things with complete impunity; some of the powers that be treat it as though every word we utter online ought to be lifted from the corporate annual report. Just where do employees and employers draw the line?</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/2009-06-27-hr.gif" /></p>

<p><a href="http://www.socialsignal.com/n2s">More Noise to Signal</a></p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144439</id>
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    <title>Comment from BostonDave on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>BostonDave</name>
        <uri>http://www.twitter.com/bostondave</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Unless you're comfortable enough to stand-up in your office and say it out loud...you should not post or tweet it.  It is basically the same thing. Assume everything that you post or tweet can and will reflect back on you personally.  </p>

<p>I am aware of at least a few touchy situations in office settings (including terminations) from people who did not heed this rule.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-28T23:23:27Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144441</id>
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    <title>Comment from http://khurt.com/blog/ on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>http://khurt.com/blog/</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Twitter, blog = public space.  Be careful what you say.</p>

<p>Facebook profile which is only shared with your close friends = your living room.  My employer has no right to ask me for the keys to my house.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-28T23:53:47Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144442</id>
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    <title>Comment from fjpoblam on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>fjpoblam</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Old saying, "Never type into an email anything which you would not be willing to have plastered onto a public billboard." I would think it applies doubly to forums, Twitter, Facebook, and anything of the ilk. Does privacy exist? Is privacy possible? Ask the three- and four-letter government specialists.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T00:13:08Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144445</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tomas on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tomas</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>#2:</p>

<p>"Facebook profile which is only shared with your close friends = your living room. My employer has no right to ask me for the keys to my house."</p>

<p>Wrong. If you connect yourself in any way to your employer on your FaceBook page (even something as simple as using your employee email account), your employer's rules that govern your behavior still apply. For example, if your work for a non-profit, and you identify his business on your FaceBook page, you cannot endorse any political candidate because your employer could lose his tax-exempt status. You can and will be terminated.</p>

<p>Also, if you engage in behavior in your house that contradicts the values of your employer - doing drugs, having affairs, telling off-color jokes that offend co-workers you invite to your house and they complain to HR the next day - this also opens you up for dismissal.</p>

<p>I have this in very good authority from HR attorneys. Your home is no longer your castle.</p>

<p>Best advice? Either stay offline, or watch EVERYTHING you say and do. Remember, FaceBook's officially policy is that everything you post in "your account" really belongs to them.</p>

<p>-</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T01:23:32Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144446</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alex on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex</name>
        <uri>http://www.spiritualmind.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You know, the old saying about using "common sense" gets thrown around a lot, and I suspect most people use it. The fact that there are occasional exceptions of doofuses <i>(...is that how the plural of doofus is spelled?)</i> shouldn't be too surprising.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T01:33:40Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144447</id>
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    <title>Comment from 墨尔本 on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>墨尔本</name>
        <uri>http://melbourne.at9t.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's not safe to use twitter password on other sites.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T01:49:20Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144450</id>
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    <title>Comment from Todd on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Todd</name>
        <uri>http://tmtips.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I can attest to this ... </p>

<p>It didn't really get me "in trouble" per se, but I remember and incident from a few months back, at my old job in Hawaii ... </p>

<p>My boss was looking up some information on a road that was closed down due to flooding.  He wanted to find out when they thought the repairs might be done.  Well, when he searched for the road's name, guess who's blog post from earlier that year was sitting right at the top of the results. </p>

<p>Again, it's didn't get me in trouble, but they did make fun of me for about a week ... for that post, and a few others they "found" on my blog. </p>

<p>So yes, I can definitely see how posting anything online could be potentially "dangerous".</p>

<p>Todd</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T03:17:11Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144462</id>
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    <title>Comment from Company Formation on 2009-06-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Company Formation</name>
        <uri>http://www.formationshouse.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>its not at all safe to use twitter and other passwords on other sites</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T05:21:52Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144486</id>
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    <title>Comment from R4 nintendo* on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>R4 nintendo*</name>
        <uri>http://www.gamesbackup.co.uk</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It thinks its like a suicide to use twitter password on other sites. Its not safe. Be careful and avoid to do so.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T09:59:33Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144487</id>
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    <title>Comment from Christine on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Christine</name>
        <uri>http://appsandhats.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hmm surely folks are aware of this by now, it's like global office gossip. It's bad form anyway to bad mouth your boss or colleagues so doing it in public is even worse. I think it just looks bad on them more so than the boss etc. It's all too one sided (i.e boss / company can't defend themselves against the accusations), we've all had bad days at the office, just tell a mate and move on. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T10:05:57Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144488</id>
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    <title>Comment from nubizus on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>nubizus</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My simple rules:<br />
Gmail, Facebook,Twitter=public communication. Be aware!<br />
Blog=public space. Don't say anything stupid. This is your official place.<br />
If you want some kind of "privacy" on the net use email + encryption.</p>

<p>On the other hand:<br />
I never care much about my employer. <br />
I care about quality of my work and effective team-working. <br />
If your boss is so obsessed with this "online crap" you must make a right choice - quit immediately and find your self a new master:)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T10:06:00Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144495</id>
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    <title>Comment from Dana Oshiro on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Dana Oshiro</name>
        <uri>http://twitter.com/suzyperplexus</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Great post Rob! I think there's definitely a positive side to social media. Honestly, I've gotten my last 3 jobs BECAUSE I had a decent social media presence and blog. If everyone was cookie cutter perfect, we'd have no diversity or new ideas in the workplace. As long as your posts aren't pertaining to something illegal, super offensive or sexually explicit, and you're not running for office, it's probably ok. The best jobs are always the ones where your boss respects that you're a creative and decent human being, and not just a cog in the work machine. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-29T12:42:54Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144498</id>
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    <title>Comment from cometos on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>cometos</name>
        <uri>http://www.cometos.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If there are many ways of spying (email, twitter, facebook...) so there are spys, who do it. The most important information must be in our heads. For now and all times.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-06-29T13:19:24Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144503</id>
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    <title>Comment from dans on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>dans</name>
        <uri>http://www.sohbethiphop.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I heard this before successful thanx</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-06-29T14:26:29Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144505</id>
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    <title>Comment from sohbet on 2009-06-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>sohbet</name>
        <uri>http://www.aysohbet.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hmm surely folks are aware of this by now, it's like global office gossip. It's bad form anyway to bad mouth your boss or colleagues so doing it in public is even worse. I think it just looks bad on them more so than the boss etc. It's all too one sided (i.e boss / company can't defend themselves against the accusations), we've all had bad days at the office, just tell a mate and move on. </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-06-29T14:42:30Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:144681</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rob Cottingham on 2009-06-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rob Cottingham</name>
        <uri>http://www.socialsignal.com/n2s</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, all. Two things that jump to mind:</p>

<p>@dana, that's a great point: it's so easy to focus on the odd horror story, when there are plenty of examples of people quietly doing positive things for their reputations online (in many cases, because they're quietly doing positive things for other people online).</p>

<p>@Tomas, HR law varies dramatically from jurisdiction to jurisdiction (and often from kind-of-workplace to kind-of-workplace). And lawyers often have differing opinions, depending not just on their personal perspectives but whose interests they're defending. I can tell you that in British Columbia, you'd be hard-pressed to fire someone just for having an affair.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-06-30T17:03:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:149174</id>
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    <title>Comment from Hiphop on 2009-07-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Hiphop</name>
        <uri>http://www.kodes.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, all. Two things that jump to mind:</p>

<p>@dana, that's a great point: it's so easy to focus on the odd horror story, when there are plenty of examples of people quietly doing positive things for their reputations online (in many cases, because they're quietly doing positive things for other people online).</p>

<p>@Tomas, HR law varies dramatically from jurisdiction to jurisdiction (and often from kind-of-workplace to kind-of-workplace). And lawyers often have differing opinions, depending not just on their personal perspectives but whose interests they're defending. I can tell you that in British Columbia, you'd be hard-pressed to fire someone just for having an affair..<br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-26T15:17:39Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.15534-comment:149175</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rap on 2009-07-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Rap</name>
        <uri>http://www.gekkog.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hmm surely folks are aware of this by now, it's like global office gossip. It's bad form anyway to bad mouth your boss or colleagues so doing it in public is even worse. I think it just looks bad on them more so than the boss etc. It's all too one sided (i.e boss / company can't defend themselves against the accusations), we've all had bad days at the office, just tell a mate and move on. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-07-26T15:18:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from facebok on 2009-11-19</title>
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        <name>facebok</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>we've all had bad days at the office, just tell a mate and move on. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-19T09:28:05Z</published>
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