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    <published>2009-08-21T13:33:39Z</published>
    <updated>2009-08-23T21:43:38Z</updated>
    <title>Retweet.com Is No Competition for Tweetmeme</title>
    <summary>When a service makes its debut by getting accused of stealing code from one of its competitors, you know that it&apos;s going to be a tough road ahead. That was the case with the Twitter aggregator application Retweet.com, which went live earlier this week. Allegedly, the company snagged the code for both their JavaScript retweet...</summary>
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      <name>Sarah Perez</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/retweet_logo.jpg">When a service makes its debut by getting accused <a href="http://uk.techcrunch.com/2009/07/27/tweetmeme-accuses-retweetcom-of-stealing-its-code/">of stealing code</a> from one of its competitors, you know that it's going to be a tough road ahead. That was the case with the Twitter aggregator application <a href="http://www.retweet.com/">Retweet.com</a>, which went live earlier this week. Allegedly, the company <a href="http://blog.tweetmeme.com/2009/07/27/retweet-flattery/">snagged the code</a> for both their JavaScript retweet button and WordPress plugin from their rival and current top aggregator, <a href="http://tweetmeme.com">Tweetmeme</a>. </p>

<p>Now with Retweet's official launch, you may be tempted to give them a second look... especially considering the $10,000 they're giving away. Don't bother. The service is still buggy, still using that stolen code (or so it seems), and that $10K? Well, you had better read the fine print. </p>]]>
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<h2>The $10K Contest</h2>

<p>A contest to promote the new service isn't really a bad idea on Retweet.com's part. But with this contest, there's no guaranteed winner. If, and only if, the site reaches their goal of 1 million visitors will that "lucky blogger" receive any money. And then there's the fact that their promotional video doesn't even say "visitors"; it says "page views" <em>(or "page votes"... it's kind of hard to tell).</em> Obviously, 1 million page views is quite a different thing than visitors. In fact, it's quite a different thing than <em>unique</em> visitors, which is what they're actually counting by the looks of it. </p>

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<h2>Bugs </h2>

<p>Still, if you're thinking of taking your chances, be warned that your button might not end up displaying the correct number of tweets, which is the entire point of the service. As <a href="http://twitter.com/franky">one Twitter user discovered</a>, the button seems to have gone completely haywire in this case:</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/retweet_button_fail.png"></p>

<p>Over 3 million tweets? We don't think so. Normally, we'd give a new service a pass when they first launch, expecting there to be bugs here and there, but considering that Retweet.com stole the button code from Tweetmeme, you would think they could get it right.</p>

<h2>Stolen Code</h2>

<p>Oh, and that stolen code? Apparently even by launch day, they were still using it... or at least it appears that way. <a href="http://uk.techcrunch.com/2009/08/19/retweetcom-launches-and-theyre-still-using-tweetmemes-code/">As Milo Yiannopoulos</a> and <a href="http://twittersmash.com/retweet-klaut-technik-und-code-von-tweetmeme/">others</a> discovered when receiving errors on their link submissions, the table name referenced in the database error still reads "tweetmeme_web.firstlinks_new." That's right, the <em>table</em> name. For those of you who aren't all that familiar with databases, this is much more troubling. <a href="http://uk.techcrunch.com/2009/08/19/retweetcom-launches-and-theyre-still-using-tweetmemes-code/#comment-252629">Notes one commenter</a>, this means that the Retweet.com folks somehow managed to get their hands not just on Tweetmeme's front-end code, but also their database schema and backend code, too. Either that, or they decided to write their own code using the names of their competitor for the table names. Which are you inclined to believe?</p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/retweet_stolen_code.png"></p>

<p><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/tyson-quick/a/68a/550">Tyson Quick</a> of Mesiab Labs, the company behind <a href="http://retweet.com">Retweet.com</a>, responded to the blog post angrily saying <em>"I can assure you that Mesiab Labs isn't using any of tweetmeme's code."</em> However, he made no mention of the screenshot or how the word "tweetmeme" got in there. We would still like to know. </p>

<p>Even with all of this drama, an imitator such as this still stands a chance, unfortunately. That's why it's encouraging to see <a href="http://www.tweetmeme.com/">Tweetmeme</a> taking the high road and staying busy creating new features for us like the upcoming "<a href="http://blog.tweetmeme.com/2009/08/19/comments-are-coming-and-they-can-be-retweeted/">retweetable comments</a>," for example. The comments are part of a major overhaul which will also bring improvements to the news filtering, spam detection, and search features as well as other small changes. Hopefully, Retweet.com won't try to rip off these features too. </p>]]>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:304230</id>
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    <title>Comment from orjin krem on 2011-02-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>orjin krem</name>
        <uri>http://www.orjinkrem.net</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>retweet doesn&#39;t have a *single* unique selling point that&#39;d put it above tweetmeme. So why would i use it?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />if you&#39;re going to compete against tweetmeme, innovate and do *something* better. <br /><br /></p>]]>
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    <published>2011-02-18T14:11:53Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:159245</id>
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    <title>Comment from Andrew on 2009-09-23</title>
    <author>
        <name>Andrew</name>
        <uri>http://www.utwitbook.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with Sarah, you can't just copy some site and expect to do better, tweetmeme does very good and I don't see why people would bother to change to retweet</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-23T23:48:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:155135</id>
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    <title>Comment from nusret on 2009-08-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>nusret</name>
        <uri>http://www.yuregininsesi.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p> very thanks for article!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-30T13:20:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:154614</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sandy on 2009-08-27</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sandy</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>ReadWriteWeb you call this journalism? This sounds like the author "Sarah Perez" needs to learn a thing or two about journalism. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-27T09:09:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153976</id>
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    <title>Comment from watches replica on 2009-08-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>watches replica</name>
        <uri>http://www.replicas-watchhome.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.replicas-watchhome.com">
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<b><a href="http://www.replicas-watchhome.com/" rel="nofollow">Fake watch</a></b><br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-24T15:00:34Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153806</id>
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    <title>Comment from charly on 2009-08-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>charly</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Domain name isn't all, but I think they will succeed, first because there's room enought for both and secondly, because they will be forced to bring up some innovations, wich I expect they will bring up, But I will stick with the tweetmeme button, even if it's only because my users are use to it.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-23T04:55:35Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153802</id>
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    <title>Comment from Misao on 2009-08-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Misao</name>
        <uri>http://misaoblog.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>IMO, althought they stole the code from tweetmeme but they will succeed anyway because they have very brandable domain name.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-23T02:30:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153773</id>
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    <title>Comment from Mark on 2009-08-22</title>
    <author>
        <name>Mark</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The sad part is they will probably succeed anyway. Although Alexa can sometimes be inacurate their alexa rank yesterday was in the 5k range which is huge and getting close to tweetmeme's rank. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-22T16:46:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from reuben on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>reuben</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think its hilarious that everyone is trying so hard to discredit retweet.com! haha the thing barely launched, what 2 days ago? Personally I say screw tweetmeme, they aren't offering me any incentive to user their button! </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-22T00:35:04Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153667</id>
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    <title>Comment from Beier on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Beier</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>This is horrible. Please don't write any article about retweet.com anymore, I don't want to hear about it, I'll never ever use it!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-21T20:36:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Joe on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Joe</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The video inspired a Microdouche post:</p>

<p><a href="http://microdouche.com/retweet-douche-retweet-douche" rel="nofollow">http://microdouche.com/retweet-douche-retweet-douche</a><br />
</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T20:32:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153635</id>
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    <title>Comment from Brant Tedeschi on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Brant Tedeschi</name>
        <uri>http://www.fantasysp.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Okay, the site is horrible and is a ripoff of Tweetmeme.</p>

<p>That still doesn't answer the question as to why RRW covered the site in the first place?  </p>

<p>Shouldn't a site get a little bit of street cred before its graced with free PR?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-21T16:40:09Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153629</id>
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    <title>Comment from Marston A. on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Marston A.</name>
        <uri>http://twitter.com/marston</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Love the video. All of a sudden I feel like breakdancing and buying a SlapChop. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA</a></a></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-21T15:30:36Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153626</id>
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    <title>Comment from Keith Driscoll on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Keith Driscoll</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>There is absolutely nothing innovative about this ridiculous service. It's not even a finished product - the search box doesn't work. Maybe they forgot to steal the code for that too :)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-21T14:51:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153622</id>
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    <title>Comment from Peter Clark on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Peter Clark</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>oh and how epic is Tyson Quicks' Linkedin Page:</p>

<p>> I specialize in Project Management and Customer Relations, but some of my other main focus are but not limited to internet marketing including Search Engine Optimization, Link Building, Adwords and various other Pay Per Click campaigns, Banner Advertisement, Social Media Networking, Online Traffic Statistics, Keyword Research / Targeting, and more.</p>

<p>> I also have some basic experiance in HTML, CSS, PHP, Database Management, and Back End Administration</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T14:14:21Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16130-comment:153620</id>
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    <title>Comment from Peter Clark on 2009-08-21</title>
    <author>
        <name>Peter Clark</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>retweet doesn't have a *single* unique selling point that'd put it above tweetmeme. So why would i use it?</p>

<p>if you're going to compete against tweetmeme, innovate and do *something* better. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T14:13:11Z</published>
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