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    <published>2009-09-14T13:31:05Z</published>
    <updated>2009-09-14T13:42:04Z</updated>
    <title>Eyeos 2.0 Goes Up Against Google Chrome OS: Webtop Evolution or Revolution?</title>
    <summary>Since the announcement of Google Chrome OS, the upcoming web-based operating system from search giant Google, a number of smaller web OS startups have hoped to capitalize on the renewed interest in the cloud desktop. One of those startups, eyeos, today announced their plans to release the next major upgrade to their web OS product,...</summary>
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      <name>Sarah Perez</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/eyeos_logo.png">Since <a href="http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_google_os_becomes_reality_google_announced_the.php">the announcement of Google Chrome OS</a>, the upcoming web-based operating system from search giant Google, a number of smaller web OS startups have hoped to capitalize on the renewed interest in the cloud desktop. One of those startups, <a href="http://eyeos.org">eyeos</a>, today announced their plans to release the next major upgrade to their web OS product, eyeos 2.0, on January 1st, 2010. To differentiate themselves from the herd, eyeos offers a couple of unique features including automatic sync with the local desktop and a host-your-own option. But is this what users really want in a cloud os? </p>]]>
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<h2>Eyeos 2.0: Coming in 2010</h2>

<p>According to news from the <a href="http://eyeos.org">eyeos</a> team, the new eyeos 2.0 operating system isn't just a revamp of the company's former product, it's something entirely new, built "from scratch," notes <a href="http://blog.eyeos.org/2009/09/14/announcing-eyeos-2-0-for-january-1st-2010/">a company blog post</a>. With a new UI <em>(pictured below),</em> new applications, and new concept for how the web-based desktop should work, the update is more than a fresh coat of paint. </p>

<p>Upon login, for example, instead of displaying a simulated computer desktop complete with icons and wallpaper, the updated OS features a new dock bar whose menus link you to applications, events, contacts, and more. </p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/eyeos_dashboard1.png"></p>

<p>The other key part to eyeos 2.0 is the focus on collaboration. As with Google Docs, eyeos provides a web office component that allows you to invite friends to collaborate with you. As multiple users log in to edit the same file, colored lines display to highlight which sections are being edited by your colleagues or friends. You can also add comments and view the changes made by the other collaborators. At the moment, though, this "web office" feature appears to be limited to a word processor and calendar. </p>

<p><img src="http://www.readwriteweb.com/images/eyeos_wordprocessor.png"></p>

<p>Other updates in eyeos 2.0 include real-time notifications via a new instant messaging component, a re-written file system and kernel, a new sync tool for syncing files, contacts, and calendar from your local desktop to the web, and new base applications which function as real apps as opposed to demos of what eyeos can do. </p>

<h2>Why No Love for Webtops?</h2>

<p>The main difference between what Google plans to offer with Chrome OS and what <a href="http://eyeos.org">eyeos</a> and other "webtops" like it is that Chrome OS doesn't live in a web browser, it makes the web browser the operating system. Even though Google's browser will sit on a Linux kernel, this won't be apparent to end users. The browser, for all intents and purposes, <em>is</em> the OS. And unlike eyeos, Google is making deals with netbook manufacturers to come preinstalled on their hardware. Eyeos, on the other hand, is still a destination you reach via URL (Well, for the most part.) </p>

<p>Despite the revamp, new look, and new features of eyeos 2.0, end users probably won't take note of this or any other webtop for that matter. As Ray Valdes, research director at Gartner Research, <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10286378-2.html?part=rss&amp;tag=feed&amp;subj=Webware">was quoted</a> as saying a few months ago: <em>&quot;I have not seen growth or traction among the Webtop companies over the past year,&quot; Valdes said. &quot;From a long-term perspective, I don't see any change to current market trends, which are that Webtop ventures are not gaining market traction.&quot;</em></p>

<p>But why are users so underwhelmed? For one thing, the web office components of any of these ventures are poor comparisons (if they exist at all) to what Google Docs provides. The poor webtops would be better off partnering with <a href="http://zoho.com">Zoho Docs</a> instead, a feature-rich web office startup that could offer a real alternative to Google's online office. Webtop <a href="http://g.ho.st/">Ghost</a> tries to make this transition easier by linking to <em>both </em>Google Docs and Zoho as opposed to offering their own applications, but they're more of an exception than a rule. </p>

<p>Additionally, there's more than a bit of hesitation among end users to make a full-on switch from a system they know - be that the OS on their local hard drive or Google's cloud-based programs - to some young startup that may up-and-disappear at any time, like the better known <a href="http://www.youos.com/">You OS</a> did only last summer. </p>

<p>Finally, there are issues of lag time and speed. Web OS's that try to simulate the local desktop experience simply can't duplicate the feel of native applications. And when they try, they can often end up using a huge chunk of memory in the process.</p>

<h2>Eyeos: But Wait, We're Not Just a Webtop, We're Software Too!</h2>

<p>Although <a href="http://eyeos.org">eyeos</a> has to fight all the same issues facing webtops as described above, they have an identity issue too. It seems eyeos can't decide if they want to be a traditional webtop accessible via the <a href="http://www.eyeos.info/">eyeos.info URL</a> or <a href="http://eyeos.org/en/downloads">open source software</a> you can install on your own server. This latter solution is designed for users worried about the "privacy and confidentiality problems" that come from hosting your data on a "big company's" server. </p>

<p>While the host-your-own option will appeal to a handful of do-it-yourselfer geeks out there, the majority of mainstream users - and even the majority of early adopters - aren't looking for a web OS you have to install on your own. If folks are <em>that</em> into privacy and open source, they'll just install Linux and manage their own backups instead. Besides, offering the host-your-own solution almost misses the point of <em>being</em> a web OS. The promise of cloud computing is that it's supposed to make our lives easier - our data lives on the web now and not on our fallible hard disks and CDs. We don't have to backup, because Google (or any other cloud vendor) does that for you. We don't have to worry with hard drive space either - we use the cloud, sometimes even for a fee, and we can get to our data from anywhere using any device. And all this is provided to you within your browser. Yes, it does mean that we give up a bit of our privacy in the process, but it's a trade that most are willing to make. </p>

<p>All this being said, the updates to <a href="http://eyeos.org">eyeos</a> 2.0 are a nice step forward for the fledging webtop and will appeal to those interested in that sort of thing...but, sadly, we're guessing that most of you aren't. </p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from Billy on 2010-02-02</title>
    <author>
        <name>Billy</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think this article is missing the main difference between these two different technologies.  You would never install EyeOS on a netbook. </p>

<p>But say if you have a school of 500 children, and the school purchased 50 Netbooks.  Each child would access their own EyeOS Webtop using the ChromeOS browser in the netbook.</p>

<p>That childs webtop, would be dynamic and alive.  As if there was an actual computer to interact with.  From an administrative stand point this is a huge benefit to us Administrators.</p>

<p>Collaborative groupware, for free!</p>

<p>I can't wait.  I'm chompin at the bit.</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-02-03T01:35:22Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16386-comment:181640</id>
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    <title>Comment from Maarten Kossen on 2010-01-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Maarten Kossen</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Don't hold your heart for the new eyeOS. They're nearly a month behind on their release deadline, there is hardly any communication whatsoever, even though the community is putting preasure, and no actualy eyeOS 2.0 code has seen daylight yet...</p>]]>
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    <published>2010-01-20T08:02:59Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16386-comment:165515</id>
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    <title>Comment from Hifzu on 2009-10-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Hifzu</name>
        <uri>http://www.eye-os.co.uk</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Well, for anyone who wants to use or try an alternative eyeos with 1GB free storage space, appealing looks and more applications, there is <a href="http://www.eye-os.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.eye-os.co.uk</a> which we are actively developing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-28T21:55:07Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16386-comment:163005</id>
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    <title>Comment from Alex on 2009-10-15</title>
    <author>
        <name>Alex</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think you completely missed the point...</p>

<p>I am one of these "handful of do-it-yourselfer geeks" but I am also a scientist working for a government agency and implicated in several international collaborations. </p>

<p>For these reasons, the option of a "google Chrome OS" is simply NOT an option due to the fact that the privacy and security of data is not sure. </p>

<p>WE want and NEED a system we could use to collaborate with people all around the world byut that we could install on our own servers. to date, eyeOS is the only one available for FREE and,as an open source solution, it can be easily customized to our needs. </p>

<p>google may be a solution for individuals who do not care about privacy but it will never be a solution for governement and private companies. For example, the use of Gmal is not allowed for business activities in several governmental agencies in the USA. </p>

<p>It is that simple. And the eyeOS team understood that. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-10-15T19:54:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from c on 2009-09-14</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p> vfd v</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-15T02:59:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:www.readwriteweb.com,2009://1.16386-comment:157704</id>
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    <title>Comment from Steven on 2009-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>Steven</name>
        <uri>http://www.stevenmautone.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is a little like comparing apples to oranges. </p>

<p>Google Chrome is basically a desktop interface on the Linux kernel that focuses on web-based software. It's an excellent change in the view of software on the desktop. </p>

<p>The real comparison here is between Google Apps and webtops... eyeOS being only one of several. Lucid Desktop is another that I find to be much more advanced (www.lucid-desktop.org). The main difference between Google Apps (and, likewise, the Zoho Suite) and webtops like eyeOS and Lucid is that Google and Zoho use pages for each app, while eyeOS and Lucid create the familiar windowing metaphor within one page, utilizing only one tab of a browser for multiple functions.</p>

<p>Webtops (like eyeOS and Lucid Desktop) allow people to host their own software suites as well as bring the desktop windowing metaphor, that we are all used to, into the Cloud.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-15T01:34:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from John M on 2009-09-14</title>
    <author>
        <name>John M</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I think you missed one of the most interesting points on EyeOS. From my point of view they offer two options (eyeos.info and download) so people concerned about cloud computing privacy can host their own server and people trusting them can use eyeos.info service.</p>

<p>Its good to see open source reviews in RRW by the way</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-14T15:19:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from ITrush on 2009-09-14</title>
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        <name>ITrush</name>
        <uri>http://www.itrush.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting competition, let's see whose going to lead.. keep us posted RWW.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-09-14T14:46:57Z</published>
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